hutch
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Re: COVID-19 2020
June 08, 2020 at 08:15 PM UTC
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Agree…serious pandemic fatigue
I think soon we just have to get on with it but with some new procedures in place and virus weakening I don’t think deaths will spike back up
Key is preventing super spreader events
Space Freely
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Re: COVID-19 2020
June 08, 2020 at 08:32 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
Agree…serious pandemic fatigue
I think soon we just have to get on with it but with some new procedures in place and virus weakening I don’t think deaths will spike back up
Key is preventing super spreader events
Which means bands better start hiring themselves out to play church services and BLM rallies because those are the only large group gatherings that seem to be allowed…
Space Freely
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Re: COVID-19 2020
June 10, 2020 at 01:26 AM UTC
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1093 US deaths today. Still got a long way to go to knock this out. And nobody seems to die in Spain anymore. Maybe they don't keep track anymore.
hutch
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Re: COVID-19 2020
June 10, 2020 at 02:07 PM UTC
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Down to 439 new cases yesterday in Virginia
Our region is rocking it…we did pretty good in the end
Space Freely
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Re: COVID-19 2020
June 10, 2020 at 02:30 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
Down to 439 new cases yesterday in Virginia
Our region is rocking it…we did pretty good in the end
At Northam's presser yesterday (I tuned in to see what he had to say about schools), he said to expect big number of cases soon…because they had recently increased testing and there was a backlog of results.
Sidehatch
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Re: COVID-19 2020
June 11, 2020 at 06:04 PM UTC
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Arlington is opening-up
arlingtonva@ArlingtonVA
Under Phase 2, restaurant and beverage establishments may offer indoor dining at 50 percent occupancy, fitness centers may open indoor areas at 30 percent occupancy and certain recreation and entertainment venues without shared equipment may open with restrictions.
The County is reopening its dog parks, basketball courts and volleyball courts on Friday, June 12, for people who practice social distancing and follow posted guidelines.
They can't just say bars…beverage establishments?!
entertainment venues without shared equipment ….so does this mean the Brothels will stay closed?
jrpa
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Re: COVID-19 2020
June 11, 2020 at 06:23 PM UTC
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There are no bars in Virginia — they’re all classed restaurants. Beverage establishments refers to breweries/wineries/distilleries/etc.
Yada
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Re: COVID-19 2020
June 11, 2020 at 06:47 PM UTC
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Side-Anarchist wrote:
entertainment venues without shared equipment ….so does this mean the Brothels will stay closed?
Hey Seth <<<<<<<<<
beetsnotbeats
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Re: COVID-19 2020
June 11, 2020 at 08:09 PM UTC
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Sidehatch
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Re: COVID-19 2020
June 12, 2020 at 02:04 PM UTC
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Space Freely
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Re: COVID-19 2020
June 14, 2020 at 11:49 PM UTC
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Why have there been no reported COVID-19 deaths in Spain for a week?
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1689226/world
hutch
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Re: COVID-19 2020
June 15, 2020 at 02:36 AM UTC
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I just don’t think we know how this virus works but it seems to ravage and then weaken and not spread as easily
It’s really a mystery..the medical community has proved worse than useless on covid..they do not have a clue
But I have seen enough to say that countries where the curve falls need to reopen with certain caveats initially like
1. Limit super spreader events (ie no conferences, concerts, packed subway cars, packed stadiums, packed bars, etc)…common sense
2. More vulnerable populations should self quarantine
3. Continue widespread testing and do tracing when people test positive
4. People should continue to wear masks and social distance where possible
I think though most people should get back to relative normal and in a month we revisit where we are..of course this means some people will die that wouldn’t all things being equal if we all stay home…but all things aren’t equal..many people need to work…if people don’t vacation entire communities will be harmed.. it’s about balance..finding a reasonable equilibrium
I am talking about the US where today we had about 300 deaths… as opposed to the peak of 3000..I know everyone is predicting a terrible second wave…but I don’t see that happening
Space Freely
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Re: COVID-19 2020
June 15, 2020 at 12:06 PM UTC
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I hope you are right, about the second wave.
326 deaths on Worldometers for the Sunday undercount. I expect it to be back up on the high triple digits by mid-week, but yes, it's great that those numbers continue to trend lower. Last Sunday it was 375 (then went up above 1000 again Tues or Wed, then back down high triple digits.)
grateful
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Re: COVID-19 2020
June 15, 2020 at 01:29 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
I know everyone is predicting a terrible second wave…but I don’t see that happening
Science Based Medicine says that a second wave may not be terrible, as long as people keep social distancing, wearing masks, staying home…
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/covid-19-the-second-wave/
Sidehatch
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Re: COVID-19 2020
June 15, 2020 at 01:44 PM UTC
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Heilung4eva wrote:
Science Based Medicine
I like my medicine fantasy-based, can we get some from 'both sides'
I'm also looking for a gut-feeling based news source
grateful
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Re: COVID-19 2020
June 15, 2020 at 01:50 PM UTC
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You'd be surprised at how easy it is to find that…
hutch
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Re: COVID-19 2020
June 15, 2020 at 02:09 PM UTC
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Science based is fine..limiting yourself to listening to epidemiologists not so much
You have to look at things from all angles not just epidemiology
If you just listen to epidemiologists you won’t open up til 2023
Let’s remember why we shut down..to flatten the curve and get ourselves -our infrastructure-ready to deal…we didn’t shut down with the goal of eliminating all covid death forever
Space Freely
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Re: COVID-19 2020
June 15, 2020 at 02:35 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
Science based is fine..limiting yourself to listening to epidemiologists not so much
You have to look at things from all angles not just epidemiology
If you just listen to epidemiologists you won’t open up til 2023
Let’s remember why we shut down..to flatten the curve and get ourselves -our infrastructure-ready to deal…we didn’t shut down with the goal of eliminating all covid death forever
Hey look, it's me, logging onto my Hutch account.
hutch
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Re: COVID-19 2020
June 15, 2020 at 02:38 PM UTC
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Except you were saying we should open before we had flattened the curve. Your view was to reopen months ago..hell not even shut down schools
We would have never flattened the curve with that approach, smarty pants