COVID-19 2020

I am seeing a lot on Twitter saying that the quarantine was not necessary and which blames the economic and related consequences on the news media and lefties and the CDC and related intelligentsia who are portrayed as clueless academic epidemiolgists. 

Examples:

Threads:

https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1275485844510371840?s=20 

https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1275197559380881408?s=20   

These folks are almost gleeful that they knew better than the dems, the media, the scientists ….

What I don't understand is that these types of folks seen to be saying that None of the shutdown mattered; that the closing of casinos and concerts and cruiseships didn't help contain the spread and the sickness/death? To me, that defies all logic.

Maybe you can critique whether you need to stay apart on the beach or pool, whether you need to wear a mask at home depot, but None of the shutdown mattered or was warranted?

end of rantquestion.

5500 new cases in Florida



We are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory due to Trump and red states refusing to take covid19 seriously

Seeing the latest numbers am no longer so certain we won’t get a substantial second wave

I am particularly worried about covid getting a foothold in Florida retirement communities

All these events in red states are going to impact us here..the areas that did things right

Inexcusable

hutch wrote:
5500 new cases in Florida



We are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory due to Trump and red states refusing to take covid19 seriously

Seeing the latest numbers am no longer so certain we won’t get a substantial second wave

I am particularly worried about covid getting a foothold in Florida retirement communities

All these events in red states are going to impact us here..the areas that did things right

Inexcusable

We cannot have a second wave if the first one never peaks!

hutch wrote:
Seeing the latest numbers am no longer so certain we won’t get a substantial second wave

good news: there won't be a second wave!

bad news: that's because we haven't gotten over the first wave!

hutch wrote:
I am particularly worried about covid getting a foothold in Florida retirement communities

me too.  my dad is in one.  if it takes hold there, it'll be a slaughter.

Seems like we should focus on the nursing homes
I recall hearing the 40% of the US deaths are there?

I think the biggest issue is the staff and visitors.
the people in the nursing homes are great at quarantine…as they NEVER leave
I think those people should be rigorously using PPE and tested often.
Seems like the feds could wave their wand and focus on nursing homes and the like and that would be a lot of bang for the buck

Totally agree!!

Side-Cooping wrote:
I can confirm that they are not using those 12-inch swabs to collect a sample from your brainstem coronavirus tests rushed out

welp as luck would have it, the dr wasn't able to get the results the morning of the surgery (3 days later)
So I did have to do the 12 inch swab.  As an extreme wimp at anything of that nature, I'm happy to report it wasn't that bad

Got the results back in 25 mins and negative…had me under in 5 mins after

12 hours later the patient first results came back negative too
so that's good to have two different tests confirm the same finding

I mean…

"As Florida emerges from its coronavirus shutdown, the state is experiencing a surge of Covid-19 cases, with younger Floridians accounting for a significant number of positive tests."

USA was going down - consistently over many weeks-in terms of cases..now going up

How is this not a second wave?

The second wave happens when places that were hit hard initially are hit hard again.  This is still the first wave, where places are being hit hard for the first time.

But nationally it’s not considered a second wave?

Ok..

hutch wrote:
But nationally it’s not considered a second wave?

Ok..

No. Viruses don't action on nations. They are far more local than that. The second wave is coming to Seattle, New York and DC. In the fall or maybe the winter.

Oh good..something to look forward to..

hutch wrote:
Oh good..something to look forward to..

It's been that kind of year.

The “hits” just keep on coming…

Heilung4eva wrote:
The second wave happens when places that were hit hard initially are hit hard again.  This is still the first wave, where places are being hit hard for the first time.

there's a little more to it… the initial peak has to fall by a certain amount, then rise again to a certain level, before it's declared a second wave (there is also a time element but let's make abstraction of that).  i've seen different numbers, but many people talk about at least a 50% fall from the peak before you can start talking about a second wave - and in the US, we haven't fallen by that much.  from the peak in early april - lets call that 100% - we dipped down to around 75% in late may/early june.  since ~15 june, we've been on an upward swing and currently are at 90% of peak.  we haven't dipped far enough down to declare the first wave over.

earlier today i came across a great graph showing different country's curves over time, but i can't find it anymore.  so instead i'll offer this NYT graph of the US alone - note how we plateaued around 75%.  compare this to the mini-graphs on this page, specifically those in the "Where new cases are decreasing" section.  jordan could say it's had a second and a third wave.

We are rocking it today! 36,600 new cases..still time to go..can we hit our record from April? 39,000

I don’t think so

Thank you red states! 9 out of top 10 in new cases..not like you had any warning other than those damn NYC libtards

Waddap Cali? Why?

sweetcell wrote:
earlier today i came across a great graph showing different country's curves over time, but i can't find it anymore. 

 



and another one.

Yeah we all saw that

We suck

The end

hutch wrote:
We are rocking it today! 36,600 new cases..still time to go..can we hit our record from April? 39,000

I don’t think so

Thank you red states! 9 out of top 10 in new cases..not like you had any warning other than those damn NYC libtards

Waddap Cali? Why?

Despite its liberal rep, California has millions of rednecks in hundreds of small towns. After all, they've had several Republican governors over the last several decades, started tax cut fever in the 70s, and is home to many defense contractors.