COVID-19 2020

Florida is reporting 10,109 new COVID-19 cases today!

Doing a bang-up job Gov D


Although, can someone give me a good reason this didn't happen earlier in FL
My understanding that tons of people from China and the EU came in via FL and cases would have spiked earlier in this state
There were massive spring break and biker fests in March/April

I do think that outdoor events like going to a protest or the beach pose a much lower risk for spreading
unlike bars/live music venues

Except at the beach people congregate on boardwalks and bars by the beach


You have to close down beaches and bars stat

I think it takes time to spread..like NYC got slammed in March but it was probably spreading from December


Florida probably started spreading March and they are getting slammed now

What makes it so galling..so maddening is Florida refused to learn from Wuhan, Milan, NYC…

I mean in Florida people just kept partying..Spring Break baby!! Beach!!

On the other hand it must be admitted that Southern California seemed to take it seriously and is also losing control…they seemed to lose focus…lots of partying at the beach


In fact this virus seems to love partying, bars and live music!

Fucker

hutch wrote:

In fact this virus seems to love partying, bars and live music!

Fucker

I think the thing is that alcohol and smoking probably make one more at risk and lowers your immune response too.  So putting you at higher risk of catching  (unlike at a protest where people are staying sober)

What is odd is stupidy isn't technically a risk-factor.  But it's becoming aperent it is.

Definitely true about alcohol

squinting wrote:
I do think that outdoor events like going to a protest or the beach pose a much lower risk for spreading
unlike bars/live music venues

like hutchie said, the problem isn't the sand and surf - it's the boardwalks, rides, bars and restaurants around the beaches.

i also strongly believe that folks let the hair, and their guard, down at the beach.  you go there to relax and/or party, not to be careful and maintain a healthy dose of caution.  i suspect that some folks who wore masks and social distanced the week before threw everything out the window as soon as they heard the words "reopened." they make it a binary choice - full-on war-on-virus mode vs. PARTAY NAKED!!!111 - whereas it's shades of gray, AKA phased reopening (the early stages of which still require masks, distancing, etc.)

squinting wrote:

hutch wrote:

In fact this virus seems to love partying, bars and live music!

Fucker

I think the thing is that alcohol and smoking probably make one more at risk and lowers your immune response too.  So putting you at higher risk of catching  (unlike at a protest where people are staying sober)

What is odd is stupidy isn't technically a risk-factor.  But it's becoming aperent it is.

Definitely no. This is absolutely incorrect.

You have no immunity.  The symptoms of COVID are your body's immune system trying to figure out what to do.

Alcohol and smoking are higher risk factors, but only because they cloud your judgement and you no longer practice social distancing or wear masks.  (Tho for real, people going to bars probably didn't bring masks to begin with.)

Heilung4eva wrote:

squinting wrote:

hutch wrote:

In fact this virus seems to love partying, bars and live music!

Fucker

I think the thing is that alcohol and smoking probably make one more at risk and lowers your immune response too.  So putting you at higher risk of catching  (unlike at a protest where people are staying sober)

What is odd is stupidy isn't technically a risk-factor.  But it's becoming aperent it is.

Definitely no. This is absolutely incorrect.

You have no immunity.  The symptoms of COVID are your body's immune system trying to figure out what to do.

Alcohol and smoking are higher risk factors, but only because they cloud your judgement and you no longer practice social distancing or wear masks.  (Tho for real, people going to bars probably didn't bring masks to begin with.)

Did a Dr tell you that or is that conjecture?

Herman Cain has been hospitalized and is being treated for COVID-19

Attend Tulsa without mask

Woman who coughed at two paramedics and said 'I have the virus' is jailed for six months


In Ireland…

Asking for a friend ….

I keep hearing about the constitutional right to not wear a mask in a Privately owned store.

So was that in the bill of rights? or tucked into an amendment where's it's in legalese?

what the actual fuck!

Family of Man Who Died of Coronavirus Hit With $1 Million Hospital Bill

"Over one million dollars for one person. Insurance paid $100,000 of it –10%. Mind you, they may accept insurance and clear this balance, but even so these numbers are insane," the user said, adding that their deceased family member had both Medicare and private insurance.

these Maga-idiots who fight universal health care are insane that THIS is a better way to operate a countries heathcare system

In America our only hope may be that the virus takes pity on us….we clearly have no plan or desire to do anything other than keeping on


https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-07-02-20-intl/h_fa914077a7e53a9636a144e228865a08

hutch wrote:
may be that the virus takes pity on us….

Pity-pandemics are much worse than pity-sex

squinting wrote:

Heilung4eva wrote:

squinting wrote:

hutch wrote:

In fact this virus seems to love partying, bars and live music!

Fucker

I think the thing is that alcohol and smoking probably make one more at risk and lowers your immune response too.  So putting you at higher risk of catching  (unlike at a protest where people are staying sober)

What is odd is stupidy isn't technically a risk-factor.  But it's becoming aperent it is.

Definitely no. This is absolutely incorrect.

You have no immunity.  The symptoms of COVID are your body's immune system trying to figure out what to do.

Alcohol and smoking are higher risk factors, but only because they cloud your judgement and you no longer practice social distancing or wear masks.  (Tho for real, people going to bars probably didn't bring masks to begin with.)

Did a Dr tell you that or is that conjecture?

Which part are you doubting? Do you think you have immunity? Do you doubt that fever and inflammation are immune responses? Don't you agree that alcohol makes people act dumb impairs your judgement?

Getting 🍿

Heilung4eva wrote:

squinting wrote:
Did a Dr tell you that or is that conjecture?

Which part are you doubting? Do you think you have immunity? Do you doubt that fever and inflammation are immune responses? Don't you agree that alcohol makes people act dumb?

Honestly being snarky…but I do think there is SOO much we don't know about this, that I question the confidence of anyone who makes any statement like its fact on the internet.

If you were Doctor with a specialty in Infectious diseases, well then I might take you more seriously.

What I do think is Alcohol and cigarettes (and pot for that matter) make your body MORE susceptible to infections of any type
Your bodies ability to fight any infection is impaired, therefore you are more vulnerable to catch and be infected by Covid
Also I'd theorize that your bodies ability to fight or 'defeat' corona would also be impaired
Meaning that if a healthy sober person was in the same room as someone coughing up Covid, my theory is they would be a lot less likely to get and then have a serious possibly deadly infection than the drunk who was next to them

Although they say Alcohol over 60% kills it…so maybe we should all be drinking Barcadi 151

Just a theory, I'm doing some clinical trial studies right now, interested in signing up?
It's super easy to get funding right now, just making sure it's an open bar type arrangement

Maybe that some whakadoodle hippy theory…
I'm pretty confident that my take on things is mocked here…but I don't let that get me down

Now this fucking cast I have to wear for the next 4 weeks…that is getting me down

Having pre-existing conditions (obesity, diabetes, etc) may put you at greater risk, but not having them doesn't confer protection.  I know a bunch of near-elite marathon runnners, including someone training for a sub-2:50. He contracted COVID and recovered,  but couldnt even walk a mile when he was discharged.

Heilung4eva wrote:
Having pre-existing conditions (obesity, diabetes, etc) may put you at greater risk, but not having them doesn't confer protection.

To be fair, I’ve seen no one (on here or any place sane people exchange thoughts) claim such a thing.