COVID-19 2020

hanky/lanky-Hatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl wrote:

Space wrote:
I'm not arguing that the vax has hurt me. I chose to get it, so I accepted any risk. I'm arguing that employers shouldn't have the power to force employees to make that choice.

Who was my employer protecting by requiring it's employees to be vaccinated? We haven't been in the office since March 2020.

And now there is no longer a requirement.

They want to be able to say "All our staff is vaccinated" and like greenwashing, companies were trying to fall in line for their PR campaign


So if your employer forced you to have a drug test, would you react the same way?
what if they said they were going to do a background check?

These would be WAY bigger privacy concerns for me vs getting a jab
you don't HAVE TO work for that employer (who works with the Gov't…so you are already a part of the machine man)

I don't have a problem with a drug test or background test to get a job. I don't have a problem with a vaccine requirement to get a job. I have a problem with making up a rule that you have to be vaccinated to keep your job.

Why do you all engage in back and forth  with people who are not arguing in good faith? So many people are showing their ass here.

Space wrote:

hanky/lanky-Hatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl wrote:



So if your employer forced you to have a drug test, would you react the same way?
what if they said they were going to do a background check?

These would be WAY bigger privacy concerns for me vs getting a jab
you don't HAVE TO work for that employer (who works with the Gov't…so you are already a part of the machine man)

I don't have a problem with a drug test or background test to get a job. I don't have a problem with a vaccine requirement to get a job. I have a problem with making up a rule that you have to be vaccinated to keep your job.

well this is where we differ a lot

Julian, wrote:
Why do you all engage in back and forth  with people who are not arguing in good faith? So many people are showing their ass here.

bordem

Julian, wrote:
Why do you all engage in back and forth  with people who are not arguing in good faith? So many people are showing their ass here.

I think it's good to have respectful discussion with people you don't see eye to eye with on stuff. It's easy on the internet. It's good practice for Thanksgiving, when I get to have political discussions with my Trump voting 6'7" father in law.

I think it's pretty impossible to think they didn't.  For all of the talk about how bad Trump handled it, the worst, most lethal phase of the pandemic happened under Biden, and well into his presidency.  You can't blame that spike on Trump. 

Biden also oversaw the removal of all of the social safety net protections we were given from COVID, removed mask mandates, refused to fulfill promises on economic relief, games the system to keep infection / death rates seemingly lower, etc etc.

He's been just as anti-science and anti-fact as Trump was…the major difference is that most of us (I would assume) think Biden is the good guy and Trump the bad, so his actions were good where Trump's were bad. And Biden gets to say "believe in science" or whatever, so he looks reasonable compared to "inject bleach into your veins" lol while doing the opposite, and liberals just eat it up. 

hanky/lanky-Hatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl wrote:
so is NKOTB trying to say that both the dems and rebups systematically threw 100's of thousands of people 'to the wolves'

Space wrote:

Julian, wrote:
Why do you all engage in back and forth  with people who are not arguing in good faith? So many people are showing their ass here.

I think it's good to have respectful discussion with people you don't see eye to eye with on stuff. It's easy on the internet. It's good practice for Thanksgiving, when I get to have political discussions with my Trump voting 6'7" father in law.

Hope you'll bring up PrEP and unprotected sex with him too. That'll go over really great.

“What do you have to lose? Take it,” Trump said during one of the White House coronavirus briefings.

Nearly 17,000 people may have died from hydroxychloroquine: study

These stories just overwhelm me…how can I process that?

New Coronavirus Discovered in Chinese Bats Sparks Alarm

https://www.newsweek.com/new-coronavirus-bat-chinese-lab-2034232

grateful wrote:
New Coronavirus Discovered in Chinese Bats Sparks Alarm

https://www.newsweek.com/new-coronavirus-bat-chinese-lab-2034232

JFC, here we go again… perfect timing too, what with the new Sec of Health who is totally going to take care of things, get people the proven meds and care they need, etc.

can't wait for it to cross and mutate with bird flu!

Reminds me of this neat story from 2020 about how the agency responsible for helping to prevent coronavirus pandemic was cut in September 2019.  It’s almost like cause and effect.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/trump-scrapped-pandemic-early-warning-program-system-before-coronavirus

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/20/health/covid-vaccine-fda-changes

No more Covid shots for us younger healthy people.

Space wrote:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/20/health/covid-vaccine-fda-changes

No more Covid shots for us younger healthy people.

Just go to a CVS and lie. I got all sorts of vaccines last fall I wasn't actually eligible for when it was clear Trump was going to win by saying I had had an organ transplant.

Julian, wrote:

Space wrote:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/20/health/covid-vaccine-fda-changes

No more Covid shots for us younger healthy people.

Just go to a CVS and lie. I got all sorts of vaccines last fall I wasn't actually eligible for when it was clear Trump was going to win by saying I had had an organ transplant.

I don't think brain transplants count, but they weren't really checking
I'm shocked you advocate lying to a health professional

I don't recall Trump saying you had an organ transplant.  If he did, I find it hard to believe that is the main reason why he won. 

Julian, wrote:

Space wrote:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/20/health/covid-vaccine-fda-changes

No more Covid shots for us younger healthy people.

Just go to a CVS and lie. I got all sorts of vaccines last fall I wasn't actually eligible for when it was clear Trump was going to win by saying I had had an organ transplant.

Oh ho ho! Good one cock

BarelyHatch wrote:
I'm shocked you advocate lying to a health professional

A pharmacy tech barely even qualifies as a human being much less a health professional. They're "the help" of the medical world. By your logic, Hutch is a rockstar because he moonlights at tearing tickets.

Cock wrote:
I don't recall Trump saying you had an organ transplant.  If he did, I find it hard to believe that is the main reason why he won. 

He said so many things that I forgive you for forgetting when he made me the Hillary's Emails of 2024.