an0m-hatch wrote:jeffml wrote:
who's gonna yell at you?
I think we at the board can fill that gap
POTW. I'm sure you guys will come through like the champs that you are!
POTW. I'm sure you guys will come through like the champs that you are!
COVID-19 2020
POTW. I'm sure you guys will come through like the champs that you are!
Starsky wrote:
NYC must be seriously suffering covid PTSD.. no place in the world probably got hit harder..
Milan would like to have a word with you… several cities in India will wait their turn to go after.
sweetcell wrote:Starsky wrote:
NYC must be seriously suffering covid PTSD.. no place in the world probably got hit harder..
Milan would like to have a word with you… several cities in India will wait their turn to go after.
Lombardy Region
population: 10.1 million
COVID deaths: 33K
NYC
population: 8.4 million
COVID deaths: 33K
(1) Personal preferences and you should have cleared that up BEFORE agreeing to lunch with that couple. This is going to go on for a while. He's clearly not alone in his stance if you had to wait over an hour for a table outdoors while there was plenty of available seating indoors.
(2) CDC is advisory, local jurisdictions have authority. You're going to LOVE CA if you don't want to wear a mask indoors or in businesses (before July 31, and depending on which part of the state)…don't like it? Shop, eat, visit elsewhere….
(2) CDC is advisory, local jurisdictions have authority. You're going to LOVE CA if you don't want to wear a mask indoors or in businesses (before July 31, and depending on which part of the state)…don't like it? Shop, eat, visit elsewhere….
vansmack wrote:
(1) Personal preferences and you should have cleared that up BEFORE agreeing to lunch with that couple. This is going to go on for a while. He's clearly not alone in his stance if you had to wait over an hour for a table outdoors while there was plenty of available seating indoors.
(2) CDC is advisory, local jurisdictions have authority. You're going to LOVE CA if you don't want to wear a mask indoors or in businesses (before July 31, and depending on which part of the state)…don't like it? Shop, eat, visit elsewhere….
1. It's not 90 degrees where I'll be eating in California, so I'll have no issues eating outdoors in California. Whereas I would have preferred indoors in NYC on a weekend of near record breaking temps. Also, there was far more indoor seating than outdoor, so that may have had something to do with the wait.
1a. Also, for the record, I spent much of that hour+ driving around looking for parking (We were going to check in to the hotel and Uber, but my friend INSISTED that they were STARVING and they had to eat at 7 or we could just wait until tomorrow. and then we ended up eating after 8 anyway because, well I guess they weren't starving after all…so we had to drive straight there.)
So it was actually my introverted wife and daughter who were forced to make conversation with fully masked mumbly people they don't really know outdoors who were doing most of the bitching about the wait, and I'm simply backing them up.
2. If the outdoor seating is full, I don't have a problem with wearing a mask until I am seated at my table. That is what I've always done for indoor our outdoor.
3. Others in my family tend to prefer online shopping and we don't have the suitcase space to bring home much, so it's quite likely we won't be doing any shopping in California. But if we do, I already said that we all still choose to wear masks in stores. I simply said I think it's stupid at this point to require vaccinated people to do so.
vansmack wrote:
(1) Personal preferences and you should have cleared that up BEFORE agreeing to lunch with that couple. This is going to go on for a while. He's clearly not alone in his stance if you had to wait over an hour for a table outdoors while there was plenty of available seating indoors.
(2) CDC is advisory, local jurisdictions have authority. You're going to LOVE CA if you don't want to wear a mask indoors or in businesses (before July 31, and depending on which part of the state)…don't like it? Shop, eat, visit elsewhere….
Also, are you sure about your #2?
https://laist.com/news/health/california-employees-keep-masks-handy-past-june-15
California is set to roll back most of its coronavirus rules, including the public mask mandate on June 15. But it looks like many of us will keep wearing them past that date — at work.
Masks would be required for all employees if anyone in the room is not fully vaccinated. At a restaurant, a patron could be unmasked but the server would be masked. (Businesses will still be able to require all customers to be masked.)
Space wrote:
Also, are you sure about your #2?
Yes, and not just because because Cal/Osha has muddied the waters, though the Governor may not adopt their rules anyway. They are still leaving it to businesses to decide patron implementation, and not every business is going to go to no mask in CA, particularly in the northern part, absent a strategy to determine who is vaccinated and who isn't.
Space wrote:
In spite of that, they forced us to wait over an hour for the opportunity to sit outside in the 90 degree heat instead of instantly getting a table inside in the AC.
Space wrote:
1a. Also, for the record, I spent much of that hour+ driving around looking for parking (We were going to check in to the hotel and Uber, but my friend INSISTED that they were STARVING and they had to eat at 7 or we could just wait until tomorrow. and then we ended up eating after 8 anyway because, well I guess they weren't starving after all…so we had to drive straight there.)
So it was actually my introverted wife and daughter who were forced to make conversation with fully masked mumbly people they don't really know outdoors who were doing most of the bitching about the wait, and I'm simply backing them up.
Slowly we peel the onion…
looking good VA!
@GovernorVA
Today yesterday Virginia is reporting:
68.2% of adults have at least one vaccine dose
5th lowest case count per capita of any state
Record low 7-day positivity rate of 2.1%
@GovernorVA
68.2% of adults have at least one vaccine dose
5th lowest case count per capita of any state
Record low 7-day positivity rate of 2.1%
San Francisco might be the first major U.S. city to reach herd immunity
As of Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 69% of San Francisco residents were said be fully vaccinated.
As of Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 69% of San Francisco residents were said be fully vaccinated.
How low do we need to be to reach herd immunity?
Fairfax County has a population of 1.14 million and the seven day average is five cases per day. New York Times say those vaccinated are at "minimal risk." Presumably whether we wear a mask or not.
Went to the welcome to high school meeting yesterday for parents in an auditorium big enough to do the six foot distancing and we still were forced to wear a mask. That was the longest I've worn a mask since the pandemic began. Glad my kid didn't have to go to school masked, and pray it won't be required in the Fall.
Fairfax County has a population of 1.14 million and the seven day average is five cases per day. New York Times say those vaccinated are at "minimal risk." Presumably whether we wear a mask or not.
Went to the welcome to high school meeting yesterday for parents in an auditorium big enough to do the six foot distancing and we still were forced to wear a mask. That was the longest I've worn a mask since the pandemic began. Glad my kid didn't have to go to school masked, and pray it won't be required in the Fall.
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/10/health/covid-indoor-concerts-wellness/index.html">Can indoor concerts ever be safe again?</a>
I long for the day when we can go back to mosh pits, hearing loss, overdoses, carelessly thrown bottles and muggings.
I long for the day when we can go back to mosh pits, hearing loss, overdoses, carelessly thrown bottles and muggings.
excontradiction wrote:
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/10/health/covid-indoor-concerts-wellness/index.html">Can indoor concerts ever be safe again?</a>
I long for the day when we can go back to mosh pits, hearing loss, overdoses, carelessly thrown bottles and muggings.
Fully vaccinated and healthy, I don't care what the vaccination status is of my fellow indoor concert attendees. Just don't hit me with your beer bottle.
:o
mononymous-hatch wrote:
San Francisco might be the first major U.S. city to reach herd immunity
As of Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 69% of San Francisco residents were said be fully vaccinated.
seattle was first to hit 70%, but that isn't enough for herd immunity because there are more children than in SF.
Vermont state becomes first to reach 80 percent vaccinated
take that Washington, who's #1 now
take that Washington, who's #1 now
Unvaccinated Missourians fuel COVID: ‘We will be the canary’
Might want to skip your plans to visit Missouri this summer
Might want to skip your plans to visit Missouri this summer
That state has lost its way
Very sad
Very sad
per wrote:
Unvaccinated Missourians fuel COVID: ‘We will be the canary’
Might want to skip your plans to visit Missouri this summer
A state I don't think I've ever been to. I don't understand the paragraph, copied below. If you're not a southern county, wouldn't you be a northern county by default? What else is there?
While over 53% of all Americans have received at least one shot, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, most southern and northern Missouri counties are well short of 40%. One county is at just 13%.