COVID-19 2020

Honest question: what are their legitimate reasons aside from distrust of authority?
Space I just don’t have the time or desire to get sucked into this but maybe someone else does?

If there are reasons certain communities don’t want to get vaccinated the solution is not to say this is an acceptable outcome but to redouble efforts to get everyone vaccinated


But again.. just no interest .. it’s a beautiful day

I mean this is like debating some hypothetical

Not really sure how this will play out with the Passports
We couldn't handle contact tracing, do you think we'll do better with vax passports

Don't you have to get a vax or show you have it to get into some countries already?

Getting into some HIPPA territory too

GQP is going to have a field day that biden is handing out the brown shirts and we'll all start getting in the bread line
even space is equating it to the Nazis
Should we also discriminate against people who are making bad lifestyle choices (smoking, drinking, fattening foods) that are positively correlated with negative COVID outcomes?
Space wrote:
Should we also discriminate against people who are making bad lifestyle choices (smoking, drinking, fattening foods) that are positively correlated with negative COVID outcomes?


Absolutely, and if it was up to me they'd be last in line for their "turn" at the vaccine. They should never get a vaccine first because they're a smoking fat fuck.
Yada wrote:
Space wrote:
Should we also discriminate against people who are making bad lifestyle choices (smoking, drinking, fattening foods) that are positively correlated with negative COVID outcomes?


Absolutely, and if it was up to me they'd be last in line for their "turn" at the vaccine. They should never get a vaccine first because they're a smoking fat fuck.


Better: Fat fuck who smokes.
stretched wrote:
Not really sure how this will play out with the Passports
We couldn't handle contact tracing, do you think we'll do better with vax passports

Don't you have to get a vax or show you have it to get into some countries already?

Getting into some HIPPA territory too

GQP is going to have a field day that biden is handing out the brown shirts and we'll all start getting in the bread line
even space is equating it to the Nazis
Someone voluntarily sharing their health information to receive access to private property is not a HIPAA violation.
There is a difference between making a choice that affects one’s own health adversely and making a choice that potentially affects everyone adversely.

Surely the rights of the individual must be balanced against the rights of the community.

hutch wrote:
There is a difference between making a choice that affects one’s own health adversely and making a choice that potentially affects everyone adversely.

Surely the rights of the individual must be balanced against the rights of the community.


As an unvaccinated person, have you been making the right choice to have your groceries delivered rather than potentially endangering grocery store workers for the last 12+ months?

When the pandemic ends, and case rates are very low, what are the odds of an unvaccinated person:
a. having COVID to begin with and,
b. passing it on to a vaccinated person?
Julian, wrote:
stretched wrote:
Getting into some HIPPA territory too
Someone voluntarily sharing their health information to receive access to private property is not a HIPAA violation.

well, but the issue is the people handling this health info are not medical professionals and unaware of HIPPA
Will the person at the door be liable for a HIPPA violation if they reveal "Hutch just came to cheesecake factory was declined because his passport said he wasn't vaxed"
Balance is important

Seeing the “gray”…

These arguments of the “Neil Young says he cares about the environment but took a plane once so he is as bad as Exxon Mobil” sort are just beneath you

If I was in charge I would like to see the federal government pay people to get vaccinated

People would stop arguing these stupidities and run to get vaccinated

Cheesecake Factory


God I hate that place
hutch wrote:
Cheesecake Factory


God I hate that place


2021 how is going
Mrs Hutch has taken me there a few times but I think it’s been 10-15 years


These chain restaurants are horrible


Carrabas for example

Or if “paying” people is controversial just give people a tax credit

Make it worth people’s time to do the right thing

We do this all the time..not even sure why this should be controversial
StoneTheCrow wrote:
https://wtop.com/local/2021/03/dc-area-universities-consider-requiring-students-to-get-covid-19-vaccine-before-fall/

was wondering when we'd see news like this
stretched wrote:
GQP is going to have a field day that biden is handing out the brown shirts and we'll all start getting in the bread line
even space is equating it to the Nazis

Marjorie Taylor Greene says that a vaccine passport is "Biden's Mark of the Beast" and that any company the requires one is engaging in "corporate communism."
Corporate-Communist-Hatch wrote:
Julian, wrote:
stretched wrote:
Getting into some HIPPA territory too
Someone voluntarily sharing their health information to receive access to private property is not a HIPAA violation.

well, but the issue is the people handling this health info are not medical professionals and unaware of HIPPA
Will the person at the door be liable for a HIPPA violation if they reveal "Hutch just came to cheesecake factory was declined because his passport said he wasn't vaxed"
Them not being medical professionals is why HIPAA is not in play. Not everyone is constrained by HIPAA. Literally only 1% of the population is: doctors and employees of medical facilities. The worker at Cheesecake Factory is not beholden to HIPAA. If you don’t work in health care, you also are not beholden to HIPAA: you announcing loudly that your wife has a headache in public (while perhaps deleterious to your relationship) is not an actionable violation of HIPAA.

How do people not know this?