COVID-19 2020

Julian, wrote:

Walk,on,by wrote:
I want masks back.  I never even got the sniffles for two years, when we had to wear them.

Then wear one? No one’s stopping you.

I only do things, when I am forced to.

The Senators conclude that early failures of administration during pandemic “Resulted in the avoidable yet devastating loss of human life.”

should have just said 'blood on their hands'

Release the Kracken!

Really, that’s the nickname

Side-eFeck wrote:
Release the Kracken!

Really, that’s the nickname

a lil' context, please?

sweetcell wrote:

Side-eFeck wrote:
Release the Kracken!

Really, that’s the nickname

a lil' context, please?

I'm thinking it was meant for the hockey thread?

Narrator: the inmates are running the asylum

Well I finally got it

Actually feel like shit

Starsky wrote:
Well I finally got it

Actually feel like shit

Thoughts and prayers (seriously). You must have been doing something right to avoid it this long.

My soon to be 82 yo unvaxxed, mask-eschewing, "I take supplements so I'm never getting COVID" mom was recently hpositalized for a couple of days due to a mini-stroke. While there, they tested her for COVID, and it turned out her cold was COVID. No idea if the stroke was related to COVID, though they discovered she had had several other strokes in the past that she wasn't even aware of.

She's recovered from COVID iand is improving from the stroke. Bonus was the COVID made everything taste terrible, and she lost the 10 pounds she has previousl;y gained. (Not too diminish how bad it was…she said she felt terrible for a while.)

Space wrote:and she lost the 10 pounds

I lost at least 5, as I ate almost nothing for like 5 days of mostly sleeping and feeling crappy

Sorry to hear about the Vid, Hutch…lots of rest and liquids
I did the plavaxolid, not really sure if that helped at all, sure left a bad taste in my mouth for days

I think Paxlovid and its cousin Tamiflu are less for the patient and more for those around them. You won't feel much better but you'll reduce the chance of spreading your germs.

Jealous. I didn't lose an ounce when I had it.

So in Florida there is a town in fredum Florida that is trying to ban the jab


https://twitter.com/edkrassen/status/1628742795388194816?

So I been getting better for a few days now…would say I lost about 3 pounds…my appetite is sort of gone…covid was worse than I expected….my whole family getting it really sucked

It’s interesting that the vaccine didn’t prevent me from getting it…or getting hit pretty hard…but then again I am immunosuppressed

I hate to think what getting it would be like if I was 80….

Man I had some nasty stuff coming out of my nose and lungs..

Not sure when I will be back to normal

Sorry its hit you so hard. I went 3 years without getting it, and was fully boosted when I did. I think the newest strain can break through the vaccine. Once the vaccines are caught up, the next strain will figure out a back door. We'll always be playing catch up with this :(

reminder: the vaccine does not prevent you from getting COVID.  it prevents you from getting it badly, i.e. it lessens the effects when do you get it.  if you think it was bad with the vaccine (and i have no doubt that it suuuucked), you can be assured it would have been much worse without it.  having protection via the vaccine may make you less likely to get full-on 'vid because your body can fight off small infections, but it doesn't give you full and true immunity.

anti-vaxxers like to point to vaccinated people still getting COVID as "proof" that the vaccine doesn't work… that's cynically incorrect.  it's misattributing a quality to the vaccine, then complaining when it doesn't have it.

Don’t talk to me like I am an idiot.

I feel I got it pretty badly.


And when the vaccines were first announced and for many months figures were cited left and right about 90% plus efficacy in preventing getting covid period. Nobody said get the vaccine and you are still guaranteed to get covid. In my family all of us were fully vaccinated and boosted and still got it.

Get off your soapbox dude.

Hutch wrote:
Don’t talk to me like I am an idiot.

certainly not my intention.  apologies - for real, i apologize - if you felt targeted.

Hutch wrote:
I feel I got it pretty badly.

clearly, sounded horrible.  glad to hear you're starting to feel better!

Hutch wrote:
And when the vaccines were first announced and for many months figures were cited left and right about 90% plus efficacy in preventing getting covid period.

newer strains of COVID, like the omicron family, have taken that 90% figure way down since the early days of the pandemic.  expecting 90% is no longer realistic. 

Hutch wrote:
Nobody said get the vaccine and you are still guaranteed to get covid.

correct, no one has ever said that.  there is no guarantee.  there still are folks out there who haven't gotten it, rare as they are.  what "they" have been saying, for at least a year now, is that vaccinated & boosted folks can still develop full-on covid (and they're much, much less likely to be hospitalized when compared to the unvaxxed).

Hutch wrote:
In my family all of us were fully vaccinated and boosted and still got it.

the 'vid ran through my boosted and vaxxed family as well, and it suuuuuuucked.  the only saving grace was that the missus and i didn't get it badly at the same time, so at least one of us was semi-functional and able to keep things afloat.

Hutch wrote:
Get off your soapbox dude.

i only wanted to address your statement "It’s interesting that the vaccine didn’t prevent me from getting it".  it's a false expectation with the BA.4 and BA.5 variants and their sub-variants running amok. 

I'm going to challenge your "rare as they are." statement with this one:

About half of American adults surveyed say they have been infected with COVID-19 at some point, with 35% saying they have tested positive for COVID-19 before.Dec 14, 2022

https://www.hks.harvard.edu/faculty-research/policy-topics/health/half-us-population-has-had-covid-many-cases-are-going#:~:text=About%20half%20of%20American%20adults%20surveyed%20say%20they%20have%20been,positive%20for%20COVID%2D19%20before.

I mean how can anyone say with any certainty I would have gotten it worse without the vaccines and boosters?

This is bandied about as gospel but where is any evidence?

The most likely reality is that covid is just weakening over time and people getting it in 2023 aren’t getting it as badly as they would if they got it in 2019.

And, again, when people were told to get vaccinated they were told these vaccines were effective in preventing getting covid. Numbers weren’t 90% either…we were told like 98%!! And wasn’t the point of boosters to prevent newer variants from evading the vaccine protection?

Isn’t vaccine by definition supposed to prevent getting the virus? Something that makes you get it “less badly” isn’t a vaccine per se, or is it?