COVID-19 2020

Justin wrote:
Never mind, goddamn it... (sorry, Forbes.com link)

The KFF poll, conducted May 18-25, found that the highest share of unvaccinated respondents were 30-49 years old (41%), followed by 29% ages 18-29 and 20% ages 50-64, while only 9% of those unvaccinated were 65 and older.

So you were wrong. It makes sense that younger people would be most likely to go unvaccinated. COVID is less harmful to younger people, and they're probably cautious in terms of getting a vaccine that hasn't been around for a long time.

Space wrote:

Justin wrote:
Never mind, goddamn it... (sorry, Forbes.com link)

The KFF poll, conducted May 18-25, found that the highest share of unvaccinated respondents were 30-49 years old (41%), followed by 29% ages 18-29 and 20% ages 50-64, while only 9% of those unvaccinated were 65 and older.

So you were wrong. It makes sense that younger people would be most likely to go unvaccinated. COVID is less harmful to younger people, and they're probably cautious in terms of getting a vaccine that hasn't been around for a long time.

Doesn’t make sense to me…

Starsky wrote:

Space wrote:

Justin wrote:
Never mind, goddamn it... (sorry, Forbes.com link)

The KFF poll, conducted May 18-25, found that the highest share of unvaccinated respondents were 30-49 years old (41%), followed by 29% ages 18-29 and 20% ages 50-64, while only 9% of those unvaccinated were 65 and older.

So you were wrong. It makes sense that younger people would be most likely to go unvaccinated. COVID is less harmful to younger people, and they're probably cautious in terms of getting a vaccine that hasn't been around for a long time.

Doesn’t make sense to me…

Younger people are less affected by Covid, so they're less like to get a vaccine that's been around for less than a year. Maybe 18-29 has higher rates than 30-49 because colleges are mandating it . 50+ are getting it because they're more affected by Covid.

Don’t they have parents, grandparents, new babies being born, children under 12, imunnosuppresed people in their families and among friends?


I repeat: makes no sense to me.

You are trying too hard…

in the early stages of the pandemic, COVID was described as an old person's disease.  folks were dying almost exclusively in nursing homes and palliative care units.  the news loudly proclaimed that young people were not affected by the disease (took us a while to realize this wasn't true).  folks hear what they want to hear and disregard the rest - so plenty of folks in their 20's and 30's still thing it's not something that will affect them, or at least their risk is very very low.  throw in some disinformation and a dose of peer pressure, and voila…

sweetcell wrote:
folks hear what they want to hear and disregard the rest

Paul Simon quote!!!!

correct, nice catch  ;D 

i use it all the time, very a propos in these divided and hyper-partisan times.  paul wrote some timeless lines…

sweetcell wrote:
in the early stages of the pandemic, COVID was described as an old person's disease.  folks were dying almost exclusively in nursing homes and palliative care units.  the news loudly proclaimed that young people were not affected by the disease (took us a while to realize this wasn't true).  folks hear what they want to hear and disregard the rest - so plenty of folks in their 20's and 30's still thing it's not something that will affect them, or at least their risk is very very low.  throw in some disinformation and a dose of peer pressure, and voila…

The risk for younger people IS very, very low. Certainly compared to the risk for 40+ and more so 65+ And not every 20something hangs out with their grandparents or has kids or thinks of anyone beyond themselves.

Space wrote:
or thinks of anyone beyond themselves.

i  initially wrote something to this effect but deleted it.  when i was in my 20's, my priorities were my friends, dates, work/career, and living for the weekend.  it was indeed a very insular and self-centered time in my life.  if i was in any way anti-science, or right-leaning, i could totally see myself not getting a shot at that time.  reminder: many (most?) 20-somethings haven't visited their parents or grandparents since the start of the pandemic.  hell, i went home once a year - if that - during that period of my life.  throw in a pandemic and i'm staying put in my little apartment so who need a vaccination?

Nice to see Florida has decided to not count people dying from covid.

Starsky wrote:
Nice to see Florida has decided to not count people dying from covid.

Link?

Space wrote:

Starsky wrote:
Nice to see Florida has decided to not count people dying from covid.

Link?

Ugh… I can’t link my brain but you can check worldometer and it’s clear

Starsky wrote:

Space wrote:

Starsky wrote:
Nice to see Florida has decided to not count people dying from covid.

Link?

Ugh… I can’t link my brain but you can check worldometer and it’s clear

According to NY Times, 464 Covid deaths on Florida today and a seven day average of 200something.

If this is incorrect I stand corrected…not sure why the huge discrepancy

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

Starsky wrote:
If this is incorrect I stand corrected…not sure why the huge discrepancy

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

Don't know why the numbers for Florida are wrong on worldometer but the to obviously are. Seem to be reported correctly at least a couple of other places.

I think I am onto something


Florida is a mess reporting data… not sure how other outlets get their data but the state is only reporting numbers once a week which is not the same as not reporting but it’s pretty iffy

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/united-states

Starsky wrote:
I think I am onto something


Florida is a mess reporting data…

reminder: de santis = trump jr, so of course the truth is optional - and best ignored when inconvenient.

do you not remember Rebekah Jones?
Former health department employee, Rebekah Jones, granted official whistleblower status

Of course I remember

behavioral economics in action:

Delta will hike insurance premiums and limit sick pay for unvaccinated employees
"The airline said that as of November 1, unvaccinated staff will pay up to $200 a month more for their company health insurance, depending on the coverage. It will also limit the number of sick days unvaccinated employees are allowed to take if they contract Covid-19."
"The average hospital stay for Covid-19 has cost Delta $50,000 per person," said the airline. "This surcharge will be necessary to address the financial risk the decision to not vaccinate is creating for our company."

Makes sense



But they won’t require employees get vaccinated?