Sidehatch
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Re: COVID-19 2020
July 16, 2020 at 04:54 PM UTC
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"You can't plan for something that hasn't happened yet" - Betsy Devos, when asked what she would do if there is an outbreak of Covid in schools. There is no plan to protect our children.
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Cue every disaster manager in the country screaming into a pillow
grateful
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Re: COVID-19 2020
July 16, 2020 at 05:52 PM UTC
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I mean, isn't "something that hasn't happened yet" embedded in the definition of "plan"?
sweetcell
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Re: COVID-19 2020
July 16, 2020 at 05:58 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
this highly politicized CDC
wait, the CDC is highly politicized?
maybe i'm missing something here, but so far the CDC has been offering solid scientific advice. it's the white house that has been muzzling it - suppressing reports, preventing its reps (like Fauci) from speaking, etc. based on what i've seen and read, we'd be MUCH better off if we followed CDC advice - but trump has consistently said "nah".
beetsnotbeats
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Re: COVID-19 2020
July 16, 2020 at 06:01 PM UTC
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She lives by the credo "If you fall off a turnip truck, you get back on."
Sidehatch
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Re: COVID-19 2020
July 16, 2020 at 06:01 PM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
hutch wrote:
this highly politicized CDC
wait, the CDC is highly politicized?
I don't think the implication was that the CDC is policical…more that it's become a culture war to take the red pill or the blue pill on this
Sidehatch
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Re: COVID-19 2020
July 16, 2020 at 07:40 PM UTC
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Ok…if we can't get testing done one way…another city's aproach…test their shit
officials in Elko County did a sewage survey and think that 2,000 (of the county's ~20,000 residents) are actively infected with COVID-19, @ElkoDaily reports. Last night, Elko County reported 151 active infections, 288 cases total.https://elkodaily.com/news/local/sewage-survey-10-coronavirus-infection-rate-in-elko-community/article_405a6b92-a0ae-57c1-9fcc-bb66ce950e8f.html
hutch
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Re: COVID-19 2020
July 17, 2020 at 02:29 AM UTC
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75,000+ baby!!!
Ain’t no stopping US now
sweetcell
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Re: COVID-19 2020
July 17, 2020 at 07:44 AM UTC
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Doomscrolling-hatch wrote:
Ok…if we can't get testing done one way…another city's aproach…test their shit
officials in Elko County did a sewage survey and think that 2,000 (of the county's ~20,000 residents) are actively infected with COVID-19, @ElkoDaily reports. Last night, Elko County reported 151 active infections, 288 cases total.
https://elkodaily.com/news/local/sewage-survey-10-coronavirus-infection-rate-in-elko-community/article_405a6b92-a0ae-57c1-9fcc-bb66ce950e8f.html
a friend of the missus works for the local water authority, and says that they've been testing waste water for months now. the virus load in the waste water is a leading indicator of outbreak.
Space Freely
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Re: COVID-19 2020
July 17, 2020 at 02:39 PM UTC
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grateful
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Re: COVID-19 2020
July 17, 2020 at 04:04 PM UTC
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Space wrote:
Could this potentially be helpful?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertglatter/2020/07/08/super-heated-air-filter-can-catch-and-kill-coronavirus/#2ac608882a06
Perhaps, but it also makes a fantastic roast chicken.
StoneTheCrow
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Re: COVID-19 2020
July 17, 2020 at 07:05 PM UTC
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Doomscrolling-hatch wrote:
"You can't plan for something that hasn't happened yet" - Betsy Devos, when asked what she would do if there is an outbreak of Covid in schools. There is no plan to protect our children.
Source? I hate DeVos as much as anyone but where’d that come from?
Sidehatch
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Re: COVID-19 2020
July 17, 2020 at 07:18 PM UTC
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StoneTheCrow wrote:
Doomscrolling-hatch wrote:
"You can't plan for something that hasn't happened yet" - Betsy Devos, when asked what she would do if there is an outbreak of Covid in schools. There is no plan to protect our children.
Source? I hate DeVos as much as anyone but where’d that come from?
Well apparently I was duped…it sounded real and someone put it in quotes …my bad
Eric Feigl-Ding@DrEricDing
Because of the controversy of the DeVos planning quote, I’ve deleted the earlier post. But it’s origins was from another poster (comment #3 below), & he had seemed to paraphrase it from this Dana Bash exchange. It carries similar meaning but because it’s not exact, I’ve removed.
4) screenshot of the original source of the quote for record - now deleted by OP. It’s a bit exaggerated compared to the actual statement above. But Devos clearly doesn’t have a plan at all.

2) The quote was from another source, paraphrased. It seems adapted from these screenshot paragraphs. Dana Bash asked if Devos what if there is a flare up, and then Bash asked if Devos has a plan & she punted both times, saying someone will figure it out.
https://washingtonpost.com/education/2020
beetsnotbeats
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Re: COVID-19 2020
July 18, 2020 at 09:52 PM UTC
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Beware of social butterflies: researchers have estimated in recent studies that some 10 to 20 percent of the infected may be responsible for 80 percent of all cases
Space Freely
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Re: COVID-19 2020
July 18, 2020 at 10:56 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
You just don’t know what to believe
I just heard Redfield say he expects multiple vaccines later this year…then I read this:
https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/article/With-coronavirus-antibodies-fading-fast-focus-15414533.php
Yeah, sure seems like we're toast.
StoneTheCrow
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Re: COVID-19 2020
July 19, 2020 at 12:33 AM UTC
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Can't read the entire article - even incognito - but the first 3 paragraphs are very troubling.
beetsnotbeats
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Re: COVID-19 2020
July 19, 2020 at 01:58 AM UTC
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Space wrote:
hutch wrote:
You just don’t know what to believe
I just heard Redfield say he expects multiple vaccines later this year…then I read this:
https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/article/With-coronavirus-antibodies-fading-fast-focus-15414533.php
Yeah, sure seems like we're toast.
Maybe not:
Immune cells may recognize the coronavirus years later
Sidehatch
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Re: COVID-19 2020
July 19, 2020 at 03:51 PM UTC
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I watch very little live TV and haven’t for the past decade
So my exposure to TV advertising has been limited
But these COVID ads … yikes what a tightrope to scale to not come off out of touch and not feeling dystopian
Uber’s ad Just struck me as it ended with
No mask, no ride
Sidehatch
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Re: COVID-19 2020
July 20, 2020 at 08:18 PM UTC
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yikes….
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
We are United in our effort to defeat the Invisible China Virus, and many people say that it is Patriotic to wear a face mask when you can’t socially distance. There is nobody more Patriotic than me, your favorite President!
So is he now going to say that he's been promoting the mask the whole time
do we think this is because of the bad polling
I will say, he does have a gift for getting under the skin of all the people who aren't MAGA