sweetcell
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Re: Musicological banter
November 21, 2022 at 10:49 PM UTC
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Julian, wrote:
Bands probably don’t want the venue taking part of their merch sales
this is standard practice across the industry. yes, there are a few venues who don't adhere to this practice, but they are few and far between.
Sidehatch
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Re: Musicological banter
November 21, 2022 at 10:56 PM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
Julian, wrote:
Bands probably don’t want the venue taking part of their merch sales
this is standard practice across the industry. yes, there are a few venues who don't adhere to this practice, but they are few and far between.
I am for certain* that the FFS takes a pound of flesh for every merch sale, so that can’t be the reason
*I am 0% certain
Starsky
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Re: Musicological banter
November 21, 2022 at 11:04 PM UTC
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When I worked at Warner Theatre -an Live Nation venue- they took 25% on merch.
I am sure FSS is the same.
I find it hard to believe that bands selling shirts that cost them $5 can’t make a profit on a $35 shirt cause 930 takes a cut. It seems overblown to me but I don’t know the ins and outs of the issue.
jrpa
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Re: Musicological banter
November 21, 2022 at 11:10 PM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
Julian, wrote:
Bands probably don’t want the venue taking part of their merch sales
this is standard practice across the industry. yes, there are a few venues who don't adhere to this practice, but they are few and far between.
Theres a groundswell within the industry of venues pledging to not do this. Perhaps the artist-friendly, pure music Mecca that is 9:30 Club should help lead from the front.
Starsky
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Re: Musicological banter
November 21, 2022 at 11:11 PM UTC
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I think that would be great.
Kind of amusing watching Julian take the piss out of IMP every chance he gets…
jrpa
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Re: Musicological banter
November 21, 2022 at 11:44 PM UTC
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Starsky wrote:
I think that would be great.
Kind of amusing watching Julian take the piss out of IMP every chance he gets…
Kind of amusing watching you boot lick for a decade plus.
Sidehatch
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Re: Musicological banter
November 21, 2022 at 11:53 PM UTC
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Julian, wrote:
Starsky wrote:
I think that would be great.
Kind of amusing watching Julian take the piss out of IMP every chance he gets…
Kind of amusing watching you boot lick for a decade plus.
although your Louboutin slobbering of live nation is in no way superior
Starsky
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Re: Musicological banter
November 21, 2022 at 11:57 PM UTC
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IMP is superior to Live Nation Ticketmaster but it’s not perfect either. I feel equating them as Julian tries to do is a disservice to the truth.
sweetcell
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Re: Musicological banter
November 22, 2022 at 04:37 AM UTC
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Julian, wrote:
Theres a groundswell within the industry of venues pledging to not do this. Perhaps the artist-friendly, pure music Mecca that is 9:30 Club should help lead from the front.
getting back to serious matters: that groundswell is only happening in the UK.
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https://completemusicupdate.com/article/fac-launches-campaign-against-venue-merch-commissions-urges-100-venues-to-sign-up-to-new-directory/-
https://www.nme.com/news/music/hundreds-of-venues-sign-up-to-not-take-cut-of-artists-merchandise-sales-but-campaigners-want-more-3282810-
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/venues-stop-taking-merch-cut/ etc…
bands are clamoring for it on this side of the pond, obvs, and there is the recent launch of #MyMerch (
via canada)… but it has not taken off yet here (i.e., no groundswell). i'm not aware of any north american venues who have changes their cut-of-the-merch practices.
thus 930 is no better, and no worse, than the rest of the industry here (but that doesn't suit your narrative, so feel free to ignore and continue with your baseless trolling… admittedly it's occasionally entertaining)
kosmo
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Re: Musicological banter
November 23, 2022 at 02:17 PM UTC
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This mashup of Oasis's 'Don't Look Back In Anger' and Hall & Oates "Out Of Touch" has received the seal of approval from both Noel and Hall & Oates
https://twitter.com/decobanduk/status/1595107079177768963?s=20&t=vCMWs70D94zIX9FECOWI2w
kosmo
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Re: Musicological banter
November 23, 2022 at 02:58 PM UTC
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Almost forgot about this and it's only available for two more days
One of the world's most enigmatic musicians, David Sylvian shares thoughts and ideas in a specially recorded Audio Diary for the show, his first public dialogue for around fifteen years. Mary Anne will be celebrating his incredible body of work in a special “Spirit of Sylvian” show featuring artists who've influenced him, contemporary musicians he's inspired, his own collaborations and solo work, and music she’d like to play to David.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001d5w7
jeffml
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Re: Musicological banter
November 23, 2022 at 04:18 PM UTC
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Thanks for this. It has been a long difficult 15 years for many of us.
kosmo wrote:
Almost forgot about this and it's only available for two more days
One of the world's most enigmatic musicians, David Sylvian shares thoughts and ideas in a specially recorded Audio Diary for the show, his first public dialogue for around fifteen years. Mary Anne will be celebrating his incredible body of work in a special “Spirit of Sylvian” show featuring artists who've influenced him, contemporary musicians he's inspired, his own collaborations and solo work, and music she’d like to play to David.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001d5w7
grateful
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Re: Musicological banter
November 26, 2022 at 12:09 AM UTC
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I mean, wutthafuggahyagonnado?
kosmo
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Re: Musicological banter
November 30, 2022 at 02:22 PM UTC
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tis the season of European festival announcements which always have me wishing i live in the uk especially for some of the small festivals even though outdoor festivals aren't the most ideal live situations.. the Primavera Sound festival looks amazing wish I could pull that one off..
anyways this little festival in England is very relevant to my interests

kosmo
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Re: Musicological banter
December 01, 2022 at 04:48 PM UTC
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Paul Heaton and Jacqui Abbott are currently touring in the UK and Jacqui comes down ill and is unable to do a couple shows. Paul chooses to press on with those shows, but does offer refunds which is a class move. Of course this means he might end up doing a bunch of Housemartins songs..
Sidehatch
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Re: Musicological banter
December 13, 2022 at 09:37 PM UTC
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this 1979 office party is off the hook!

IAN CURTIS at his office Christmas Party in December 1979. The image was 'discovered' in 2020 and was quite grainy - I've had a go at restoring it and improving the colour.
The photograph features staff from the job centre where Ian worked. It was based at South Park Road in Macclesfield, mere yards away from Ian's house at 77 Barton Street. There he worked as Assistant Disablement Resettlement Officer, helping find work for people with special needs.
Sidehatch
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Re: Musicological banter
December 15, 2022 at 06:41 PM UTC
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wasn't 100% sure where this should go
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So conceivably you could spend all $3k on one concert for some VIP package, parking and drinks
as long as they don't make me drink bud light seltzer
grateful
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Re: Musicological banter
December 15, 2022 at 07:03 PM UTC
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grateful
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Re: Musicological banter
December 17, 2022 at 01:15 AM UTC
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Compilation of rare, high-quality clips of pre-DSOTM Pink Floyd
https://www.metafilter.com/197578/I-think-youre-not-commercial