Musicological banter

atomic wrote:

Yada wrote:

hutch wrote:

atomic wrote:

hutch wrote:

Yada wrote:

Sidehatch wrote:
Frank Turner somehow get's in to an online squabble about radiohead
but his response is solid
Think it's lame when bands don't play some of the fans favorite songs while on tour

I can't think of many Radiohead fans that would actually want to hear Creep.

exactly…

Why?  When I saw them I wanted to hear Creep but instead they played a bunch of lame songs.

I rest my case

A+. Atomic's null and void opinion lives on.

They didn't play Fake Plastic Trees either.  Lame band.  And the crowd was full of bro's shoving into people.  They mostly played stuff from In Rainbows which is one of the worst albums of all time IMHO.

you should've got a seat rather than standing with savages like hutch.

Yada wrote:

atomic wrote:

Yada wrote:

hutch wrote:

atomic wrote:

hutch wrote:

Yada wrote:

Sidehatch wrote:
Frank Turner somehow get's in to an online squabble about radiohead
but his response is solid
Think it's lame when bands don't play some of the fans favorite songs while on tour

I can't think of many Radiohead fans that would actually want to hear Creep.

exactly…

Why?  When I saw them I wanted to hear Creep but instead they played a bunch of lame songs.

I rest my case

A+. Atomic's null and void opinion lives on.

They didn't play Fake Plastic Trees either.  Lame band.  And the crowd was full of bro's shoving into people.  They mostly played stuff from In Rainbows which is one of the worst albums of all time IMHO.

you should've got a seat rather than standing with savages like hutch.

It was at a music festival that did not allow chairs.  Newport allows you to bring chairs which I think is nice.  You just get their early put your chair out and go about your business.

for yada . . . have a beer, and enjoy

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/flaming-lips-sgt-peppers-tribute-album-out-this-fall-20140515

You should put both of those links in one of the many threads about new albums…

i shoulda, i coulda, but i didnta

Looking forward to this.

33 1/3: Psychocandy

Also cool that a DC-based writer is writing it.

http://pitchfork.com/news/55378-jack-white-slams-the-black-keys-suggests-once-again-that-theyve-ripped-off-his-sound/

do the black keys, rip off, the white stripes?  i dont know, i dont listen to the black keys.  they do have two members each, three words in their name, both starting with 'the', then a 'color', then a word which could describe the two sets of playable parts of a piano.  odd.  and both lead singers kids go to the same school.

well, darn

http://pitchfork.com/news/55380-jack-white-apologizes-for-comments-about-meg-white-the-black-keys-lana-del-rey-adele/

i don't disagree with him.  i like there music, but when i saw those guys years back, it's like they were a blues rock cover band, never straying too far from the course.  you can tell the guys that it comes naturally, and for the black keys, that's not the case. those guys seem like they are very hardworking musicians, but they aren't creating anything original.

I'd prefer to listen to the Black Keys for the rest of eternity than hear one note from Jack White.

stevewizzle wrote:
i don't disagree with him.  i like there music, but when i saw those guys years back, it's like they were a blues rock cover band, never straying too far from the course.  you can tell the guys that it comes naturally, and for the black keys, that's not the case. those guys seem like they are very hardworking musicians, but they aren't creating anything original.

I think it depends on what you're talking about.. I mean the early black keys albums are so stripped down….the lead singer dude sounds like paul rodgers of free/bad co on them… they've changed since..

the last few are almost "Dangermouse with the Black Keys" albums…. since I think Dangermouse is the best producer in the world right now its fine by me..

and Auerbach gets my thanks based alone on his production of Dr John's Locked Down..heck of an album

I find originality is a term often misapplied….. you can be original while working within established forms….. Are we saying if someone came out with an album as great as Back in Black but with different songs we wouldn't like it? It wouldn't be "original"?  The Hellacopters High Visibility is the greatest album Thin Lizzy never made..doesn't make it any less great..

walkonby wrote:
http://pitchfork.com/news/55378-jack-white-slams-the-black-keys-suggests-once-again-that-theyve-ripped-off-his-sound/

do the black keys, rip off, the white stripes?  i dont know, i dont listen to the black keys.  they do have two members each, three words in their name, both starting with 'the', then a 'color', then a word which could describe the two sets of playable parts of a piano.  odd.  and both lead singers kids go to the same school.

Stating Lana Del Rey is ripping off Amy Winehouse is quite a stretch.  Could you imagine if the Beatles had spent all their time accusing people of ripping them off?  Sounds like he has some emotional problems.  I don't like the Black Keys so whatever but he needs to let it go. 

hutch wrote:

stevewizzle wrote:
i don't disagree with him.  i like there music, but when i saw those guys years back, it's like they were a blues rock cover band, never straying too far from the course.  you can tell the guys that it comes naturally, and for the black keys, that's not the case. those guys seem like they are very hardworking musicians, but they aren't creating anything original.

I think it depends on what you're talking about.. I mean the early black keys albums are so stripped down….the lead singer dude sounds like paul rodgers of free/bad co on them… they've changed since..

the last few are almost "Dangermouse with the Black Keys" albums…. since I think Dangermouse is the best producer in the world right now its fine by me..

and Auerbach gets my thanks based alone on his production of Dr John's Locked Down..heck of an album

I find originality is a term often misapplied….. you can be original while working within established forms….. Are we saying if someone came out with an album as great as Back in Black but with different songs we wouldn't like it? It wouldn't be "original"?  The Hellacopters High Visibility is the greatest album Thin Lizzy never made..doesn't make it any less great..

Do you mean as good as "back to black"?

hutch wrote:

stevewizzle wrote:
i don't disagree with him.  i like there music, but when i saw those guys years back, it's like they were a blues rock cover band, never straying too far from the course.  you can tell the guys that it comes naturally, and for the black keys, that's not the case. those guys seem like they are very hardworking musicians, but they aren't creating anything original.

I think it depends on what you're talking about.. I mean the early black keys albums are so stripped down….the lead singer dude sounds like paul rodgers of free/bad co on them… they've changed since..

the last few are almost "Dangermouse with the Black Keys" albums…. since I think Dangermouse is the best producer in the world right now its fine by me..

and Auerbach gets my thanks based alone on his production of Dr John's Locked Down..heck of an album

I find originality is a term often misapplied….. you can be original while working within established forms….. Are we saying if someone came out with an album as great as Back in Black but with different songs we wouldn't like it? It wouldn't be "original"?  The Hellacopters High Visibility is the greatest album Thin Lizzy never made..doesn't make it any less great..

i guess they kind of fell off with me after attack and release, so i missed all the danger mouse produced music. originality maybe wasn't the right term. their "established form" just came off as a total replica. nothing new.  i feel like it's a 2-man novelty group, and i just expected them to feed off each other more live, and i never saw it happen.  and this was a band that had been playing together since 2001.

stevewizzle wrote:

hutch wrote:

stevewizzle wrote:
i don't disagree with him.  i like there music, but when i saw those guys years back, it's like they were a blues rock cover band, never straying too far from the course.  you can tell the guys that it comes naturally, and for the black keys, that's not the case. those guys seem like they are very hardworking musicians, but they aren't creating anything original.

I think it depends on what you're talking about.. I mean the early black keys albums are so stripped down….the lead singer dude sounds like paul rodgers of free/bad co on them… they've changed since..

the last few are almost "Dangermouse with the Black Keys" albums…. since I think Dangermouse is the best producer in the world right now its fine by me..

and Auerbach gets my thanks based alone on his production of Dr John's Locked Down..heck of an album

I find originality is a term often misapplied….. you can be original while working within established forms….. Are we saying if someone came out with an album as great as Back in Black but with different songs we wouldn't like it? It wouldn't be "original"?  The Hellacopters High Visibility is the greatest album Thin Lizzy never made..doesn't make it any less great..

i guess they kind of fell off with me after attack and release, so i missed all the danger mouse produced music. originality maybe wasn't the right term. their "established form" just came off as a total replica. nothing new.  i feel like it's a 2-man novelty group, and i just expected them to feed off each other more live, and i never saw it happen.  and this was a band that had been playing together since 2001.

I lost interest with Magic Potion and Attack and Release, but the album Brothers was damn near perfect.

So this is also pretty fucking cool.
33 1/3: The Raincoats - S/T

And a friend's writing it!

stevewizzle wrote:

hutch wrote:

stevewizzle wrote:
i don't disagree with him.  i like there music, but when i saw those guys years back, it's like they were a blues rock cover band, never straying too far from the course.  you can tell the guys that it comes naturally, and for the black keys, that's not the case. those guys seem like they are very hardworking musicians, but they aren't creating anything original.

I think it depends on what you're talking about.. I mean the early black keys albums are so stripped down….the lead singer dude sounds like paul rodgers of free/bad co on them… they've changed since..

the last few are almost "Dangermouse with the Black Keys" albums…. since I think Dangermouse is the best producer in the world right now its fine by me..

and Auerbach gets my thanks based alone on his production of Dr John's Locked Down..heck of an album

I find originality is a term often misapplied….. you can be original while working within established forms….. Are we saying if someone came out with an album as great as Back in Black but with different songs we wouldn't like it? It wouldn't be "original"?  The Hellacopters High Visibility is the greatest album Thin Lizzy never made..doesn't make it any less great..

i guess they kind of fell off with me after attack and release, so i missed all the danger mouse produced music. originality maybe wasn't the right term. their "established form" just came off as a total replica. nothing new.  i feel like it's a 2-man novelty group, and i just expected them to feed off each other more live, and i never saw it happen.  and this was a band that had been playing together since 2001.

oh its totally changed… the latest album sounds more like Pink Floyd than anything else to me….mixed in with Dangermouse putting in that David Axelrod type phat bass everywhere… really Jack White has no case as of late….they've moved on from earlier when he did have some sorta case.. i mean you got a group called the white stripes..duo and then another duo comes along …called the black keys….and they play the same rough loud bash a blues? but like i said they have totally moved on from that

http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/354-baltimore-club/
Pitchfork article on the current state of Baltimore Club

Does anybody listen to their old Public Enemy cd's/lp's/cassettes? Talk about a band whose music did not age well.