Musicological banter

  Am I off base in thinking that there would be some sort of internet space for "expert" or otherwise knowledgeable folks to create something similar to early to early-peak MTV?
In the smallest scale, a YouTube channel that created playlists of different current, classic and rising artists showed the videos and then also kind of jibber-jabbed about the artists and the music scene around the artists.
  I'm guessing a big hurdle is licensing, but if a person plotted out a playlist, recorded their segments then linked to other channels' videos with their segments interspersed. That's like the circuitous route. I just feel like when you ask online about how to be introduced to new music, the answer is always, just make your own playlist. There was just something about the feeling of both watching/hearing a song beginning to end (vs. someone like Rick Beato, playing a snippet of the top songs on Spotify while he nods approvingly or talks over it) and then hearing from folks who felt like they were in the know or at least sharing something. 
  Bigger scale would be something that paid for licenses to show videos and also created content that was influenced by the scene around music culture (if there still is music culture). Like people give MTV shit for having a long decline, but early non-music shows like Liquid Television, Beavis and Butt-head and Daria felt like they came out of subcultures around music (with B&B also kind of foreseeing YouTube reaction content). Even their early reality type shows were influenced either by "the average" youth demo, or subcultures like skating and its links to the punk scene or links to hp-hop and comedy. 
  This post is tooo long and I am unwisely directing the effects of my ADHD medication while at work. 

just ask a.i.
there are no more experts

lol, yeah I shot myself in the foot as soon as I mentioned the word expert
We are definitely in a post expertise world.

evilizac wrote:
I just feel like when you ask online about how to be introduced to new music, the answer is always, just make your own playlist.

less musicological and more sociological, but: the days of MTV are dead, IMO, because people want to choose their own adventure.  they want to be free to discover things on their own (actually under the direction of an algorithm, but we have the illusion of choice), they don't want someone else's programming.

Probably true, but I would argue that a lot of people don't know what they're missing. It's more the feeling of a human element or connection. Which I guess is part of what I might be missing.
There were a couple of podcasts that kind of did something interesting but changed in the name of $$$.
Specifically, Bandsplain in its heyday, where they'd pick an artist and a handful of songs chronologically throughout the artist's catalogs and talk about the timeframe history of the band around time of the song and play the songs in full.
You were getting a bit of that parasocial hit that are podcasts real draw and so you (I'd) stick around to hear songs and even artists catalogs that the listener might overlook.
Due to essentially to licensing and a shift in podcasting studio they changed it to playing snippets of songs. I feel like it really lost the musical  charm and went from a must listen to a maybe I'll listen.

evilizac wrote:.
Specifically, Bandsplain in its heyday, where they'd pick an artist and a handful of songs chronologically throughout the artist's catalogs and talk about the timeframe history of the band around time of the song and play the songs in full.

I did love this when they were doing this on spotify
but then it changed to snippets and I stopped following

He is still around 1970..so might bore you with the old stuff…so not a source for NEW music
but might be NEW TO YOU music….which has been the case for me

but 500songs, most episodes comes with a supplemental Mixcloud mix
So in the episode, he'll do a clip, but you can go here to hear the full song
for better or worse, it's just one long mix…with no index! (which is good because you just listen)
But it doesn't deatil the info on the song (which I guess you go back to the episode page to get that)

for instance here is the mixcloud for Tomorrow Never Knows
https://www.mixcloud.com/AndrewHickey/500-songs-supplemental-145-tomorrow-never-knows/

the san francisco one is very long, but he discusses tons of songs…lots I'd never heard
https://www.mixcloud.com/AndrewHickey/500-songs-supplemental-151-san-francisco/

I will fully admin I'm in a bubble with regards to musical discovery primarily via social media, followed by streaming and then buying via Bandcamp, I also spent most of the last week or so re-listening to Northern Soul compilations I own.

With regards to finding "experts" there seems to be an abundance of Internet radio to tap into.  BBC Radio 6 might be worth a try, but I've seen comments about them being a bit to Dad Rock. 

Soho Radio is one source that often get mentioned they have a wide selection of programming.  https://sohoradiolondon.com/

I see NTS Radio mentioned as well https://www.nts.live

If you really want to dig deep there is Mixcloud.com, which does have radio/podcast type streams.  IT also serves as the archive for Soho Radio shows.

There are public radio stations that of course still have music oriented shows and closer to home there is Takoma Radio https://takomaradio.org/

bottom line far to many choices and not enough hours to comsume

kosmo wrote:
I will fully admin

we know, koz, we know…

So this is cool …fighting fire with Bass
https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/two-engineering-students-invent-a-sonic-fire-extinguisher

who knew that Goldie would have been a way to fight the LA fires

Today I learned that one of my favorite musical geniuses Adrian Quesada along with Alexander Abraham are nominated for an Oscar for their song “Like A Bird” from the Sing Sing Soundtrack.

kosmo wrote:
Today I learned that one of my favorite musical geniuses Adrian Quesada along with Alexander Abraham are nominated for an Oscar for their song “Like A Bird” from the Sing Sing Soundtrack.

That’s great. I too love Quesada

i still hear the best/new stuff on college radio. someone else does the curating. alot of times you have to shazam the speaker.

Likely available elsewhere but I watched on PBS Passport "The Who at Kilburn: 1977" and enjoyed it, especially Pete Townshend being a total ball of energy .  Originally shot for inclusion in the doc "The Kids Are Alright" for which only a couple bits from that concert were included in that.  It of course has one of last public appearances by Keith Moon.

Ok this made me LOL

I was reading through the praise of Philly Hardcore band Slow Glo's album  Diaspora Problems  and this comment jumped out at me

"This record is gonna steal your bike and throw it thru the window of a cop car. Couldn't recommend enough."

Amazing line.

went to disogs to see if I could find a physical copy of that Merge Going to Georgia compilation…it was aways digital only


I agree with a lot of this list detailing best debut albums

https://www.discogs.com/digs/collecting/best-debut-albums
although some duds on here
I just can't do King Crimson and how that got #2  ( I guess my distain for prog rock is showing)

I had thought of what outside of the very obvious sample of the The Jam used by The Beastie Boys on their b-side "And What You Give Is What You Get" who if anyone had sampled them.  Turns outside of Sleaford Mods no one really notable expect that there is a riff from "Dream Time" used within Massive Attacks "Man Next Door"

anyways the point of this is I found this nifty video that plays the sample and then where in the songs they are used for Mezzanine

Every Sample From Massive Attack's Mezzanine

https://youtu.be/43zMEQnnKbo

and not to leave anyone hanging here is the forementioned beastie boys track
https://youtu.be/ui3T0ShrtbI

This one goes into a little further detail and points out that Massive Attack interpolated certain elements verses out right sampling them.  This one IDs the Jam riff sampled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4DPoxvd9KM

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