Musicological banter

It takes a real piece of work to write "If I say you are a lousy parent don't take it personally I just feel that way strongly! I'm just not good at not telling you how I honestly feel about your parenting..so please ignore it."

And that is why I will take Brian Wallace over James Ford any day… Brian Wallace will insult you over your views of some musician or other..James Ford does it about what kind of parent you are. That kind of thing should really be off limits… If James Ford or anyone said that to my face I'd beat the crap out of them….

Thanks for your final words on the matter, now here's mine.

If a 50 year old guy who claims to make beaucoup money states on a public message board:

My wife doesn't think she should work after the child is born but hey that new Audi that I want isn't going to pay for itself.

I'm going to call him out on his bad parenting (and spousal) decision.

Can you guys go start a parenting thread somewhere else?

Hexenjagd wrote:
Can you guys go start a parenting thread somewhere else?

Oh, wait, we already did.

I wish people would use it. I only read a couple of threads here and having people constantly going off topic is annoying.

Maybe I should go post about video games and movies over and over again in the Beer and Baseball threads.

Hexenjagd wrote:
Maybe I should go post about video games and movies over and over again in the Beer and Baseball threads.

I still say the solution to all this mess is to ban Just Announced.

James wrote:
Thanks for your final words on the matter, now here's mine.

If a 50 year old guy who claims to make beaucoup money states on a public message board:

My wife doesn't think she should work after the child is born but hey that new Audi that I want isn't going to pay for itself.

I'm going to call him out on his bad parenting (and spousal) decision.

Wait, I am 49.  Second whe did I claim to make beaucup money?  Third, it is a joke. 

That is the difference between my post about how I am better than you guys and your post about how you are better than us. I am joking.

Julian, wrote:

Hexenjagd wrote:
Maybe I should go post about video games and movies over and over again in the Beer and Baseball threads.

I still say the solution to all this mess is to ban Just Announced.

And ban talk about video games as well.  I think I should make up a list of acceptable discussion points. 

I never said I was better than anybody.

Can I share with you a quote from my wife regarding daycare? And if you think she (or I for respecting and sharing my wife's views), by having these thoughts. am saying I am better than you, well fine. Infer whatever you want.


to me, there's be no other way for a child under one…and possibly 2-3…but no way I would leave a non-walking, non-talking infant who is supposed to be held and cuddled all day and given breastmilk on demand with someone other than me…
It's not the kind of thing I need a study to tell me is good or bad for the child either, as a mother, I just know…and I am actually sad for those who can't or won't stay with their babies…
Anyway, I would have been heartbroken to be with a husband who tried to push me to go back to work before I wanted to

atomic wrote:

James wrote:
Thanks for your final words on the matter, now here's mine.

If a 50 year old guy who claims to make beaucoup money states on a public message board:

My wife doesn't think she should work after the child is born but hey that new Audi that I want isn't going to pay for itself.

I'm going to call him out on his bad parenting (and spousal) decision.

Wait, I am 49.  Second whe did I claim to make beaucup money?  Third, it is a joke. 

That is the difference between my post about how I am better than you guys and your post about how you are better than us. I am joking.

Why would be want to talk about video games? We're adults.

Hexenjagd wrote:
I wish people would use it. I only read a couple of threads here and having people constantly going off topic is annoying.

Maybe I should go post about video games and movies over and over again in the Beer and Baseball threads.

adults, who cant spell, we.  video games, rule . . . they rule, you marathon runner.  so there.

James wrote:
I never said I was better than anybody.

Can I share with you a quote from my wife regarding daycare? And if you think she (or I for respecting and sharing my wife's views), by having these thoughts. am saying I am better than you, well fine. Infer whatever you want.


to me, there's be no other way for a child under one…and possibly 2-3…but no way I would leave a non-walking, non-talking infant who is supposed to be held and cuddled all day and given breastmilk on demand with someone other than me…
It's not the kind of thing I need a study to tell me is good or bad for the child either, as a mother, I just know…and I am actually sad for those who can't or won't stay with their babies…
Anyway, I would have been heartbroken to be with a husband who tried to push me to go back to work before I wanted to

As a critical thinking human… the 'as a mother, I just know' is complete and utter bullshit.
Mother's can be just as shitty as anybody.

China Arnold just knew she had to microwave her 28 day old baby daughter.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/china-arnold-appeal_n_3948106.html?utm_hp_ref=murder

Sara Krueger just knew she needed to stick her 3 year old in a suitcase before putting her in the freezer.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/04/kayleigh-slusher_n_4726743.html?utm_hp_ref=crime

As a mother, Jennifer Marie Brys knows to pimp her 4 year old daughter on Craig's List.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/jennifer-marie-brys-backpage-sell-4-year-old_n_4181632.html  But in her defense, I'm sure the activities were to take place at home and not in daycare.

and azag, wanted me to take my musings on his twitter posts, elsewhere.

So four bad apples make any argument a woman who is a mom makes regarding motherhood complete and utter bullshit?

slappy wrote:

James wrote:
I never said I was better than anybody.

Can I share with you a quote from my wife regarding daycare? And if you think she (or I for respecting and sharing my wife's views), by having these thoughts. am saying I am better than you, well fine. Infer whatever you want.


to me, there's be no other way for a child under one…and possibly 2-3…but no way I would leave a non-walking, non-talking infant who is supposed to be held and cuddled all day and given breastmilk on demand with someone other than me…
It's not the kind of thing I need a study to tell me is good or bad for the child either, as a mother, I just know…and I am actually sad for those who can't or won't stay with their babies…
Anyway, I would have been heartbroken to be with a husband who tried to push me to go back to work before I wanted to

As a critical thinking human… the 'as a mother, I just know' is complete and utter bullshit.
Mother's can be just as shitty as anybody.

China Arnold just knew she had to microwave her 28 day old baby daughter.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/china-arnold-appeal_n_3948106.html?utm_hp_ref=murder

Sara Krueger just knew she needed to stick her 3 year old in a suitcase before putting her in the freezer.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/04/kayleigh-slusher_n_4726743.html?utm_hp_ref=crime

As a mother, Jennifer Marie Brys knows to pimp her 4 year old daughter on Craig's List.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/jennifer-marie-brys-backpage-sell-4-year-old_n_4181632.html  But in her defense, I'm sure the activities were to take place at home and not in daycare.

I would be willing to wager a bet that in general when the mother doesn't work the children turn out worse.  Welfare mommies tend to have more kids, live in areas with bad school systems and usually have absent fathers.

oh, no, he . . . oh you know where im going with that.

slappy wrote:

James wrote:
I never said I was better than anybody.

Can I share with you a quote from my wife regarding daycare? And if you think she (or I for respecting and sharing my wife's views), by having these thoughts. am saying I am better than you, well fine. Infer whatever you want.


to me, there's be no other way for a child under one…and possibly 2-3…but no way I would leave a non-walking, non-talking infant who is supposed to be held and cuddled all day and given breastmilk on demand with someone other than me…
It's not the kind of thing I need a study to tell me is good or bad for the child either, as a mother, I just know…and I am actually sad for those who can't or won't stay with their babies…
Anyway, I would have been heartbroken to be with a husband who tried to push me to go back to work before I wanted to

As a critical thinking human… the 'as a mother, I just know' is complete and utter bullshit.
Mother's can be just as shitty as anybody.

Yes, I have seen, first hand and with devastating results, the "but I'm their MOTHER" defense put in to practice.  The discrimination that fathers face because they are not "mothers" is ungodly and unreal.  I'm ranting here…this is off topic.  But mothers do not always know best. 

That said, I'd say it's pretty obvious that the best situation for a newborn, generally speaking, is to spend as much time as possible with the mother, rather than $12/hour baby holders at some daycare somewhere.

Sadly, this is not possible for everyone.

so we have two threads now fulltime devoted to parenting?

geez

thats what you get . . . for being heterosexual.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUkm78l9xoI

here . . . heres something musical, to ponder.