On the Eve of the new Season...

vansmack wrote:

sweetcell wrote:
allez les bleus!

Friendship. Over.

i should hope so

prem marches on saturday are looking tasty

Henry once a cheater always a cheater. I am remembering of course his ridiculous dive against Spain that turned around that World Cup match in 2006. I am sure there are dozens of other examples.

Ireland should have finished them off earlier when they had the chance.. ..

I've always believed that with certain teams - call them legacy teams- there is a bias for them - not sure if its on purpose or just subconscious- and you have to beat them by more than one goal.. The Italys, Germanys, Brazils, the home team in the World Cup itself.. something is always going to get called or not called in their favor and if you want to win it has to be convincing and leave nothing to chance and no margin for referee error.. You particularly see these things come up at the World CUps and key qualifying matchups..

Too bad for Ireland really.

My disdain for Thierry Henry has reached new boundaries, andI really didn't think it could.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjTxllNRKM4

I feel terribly for Ireland.  When it went into extra time, I was dreaming of two weeks in Ireland for the World Cup this year…

Anybody checked on Brennser yet?

vansmack wrote:
Anybody checked on Brennser yet?

"Cheating bastards - am medicating heavily w alcohol right now"

He'll be just fine….

lots of complicated emotions and what-if's today (and a blinding headache)

terrible terrible decision - I mean, what Henry did was probably illegal in basketball as well!

But with better finishing on our part it shouldn't have even gone to extra time and quite frankly if an Irish player had done it I probably wouldn't have cared that much……

Proud of the lads, in awe at how Trap transformed the team in two years, sick of moral victories…..

the way that the french won was a disgrace.  that goal should not have counted - how come no one here has said anything in favor of instant replay?!?  that would solve the problem.  even *baseball* has replay for home-runs - i.e. scoring plays.  i understand that there is a tradition to defend blah blah blah, and every single call shouldn't be subject to video review, but a game shouldn't be decided on the ref's inability to see all things at all times.

brennser wrote:
quite frankly if an Irish player had done it I probably wouldn't have cared that much……

i heart brennser… a level-headed fan.  or maybe it's the hangover talking :P

FC Barcelona 1-0 Real Madrid
Ronaldo, keep trying.

France loses the top seeding they were supposed to have as of just a week ago to Netherlands..

I'd hate to be a top seed and have either France or Portugal in my group.. I'll tell you that..

why do I see a Portugal, Brazil, Ivory Coast draw in the US future…….

19 hours to go before the WC drawing: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/livedraw

sweetcell wrote:
the way that the french won was a disgrace.  that goal should not have counted - how come no one here has said anything in favor of instant replay?!?  that would solve the problem.  even *baseball* has replay for home-runs - i.e. scoring plays.  i understand that there is a tradition to defend blah blah blah, and every single call shouldn't be subject to video review, but a game shouldn't be decided on the ref's inability to see all things at all times.

I think if a sport chooses not to have replay because of tradition, then they have no right to complain when a call goes wrong.

The most ridiculous thing out of this entire story is someone in FIFA wants to punish Henry over this. Holy shit, your guys missed the call. Players in every sport ever commit some random minor penalty from time to time, and if its caught, fine, call it. But when its not, you can't go back and place the competitive blame on the player. Imagine if football fans wanted a defensive back fined for a non-called pass interference penalty instead of being mad at the referee who missed the call. What a simply unconscionable position to take.

Julian, wrote:
I think if a sport chooses not to have replay because of tradition, then they have no right to complain when a call goes wrong.

that's frikken brilliant.  great observation.

Julian, wrote:
The most ridiculous thing out of this entire story is someone in FIFA wants to punish Henry over this.

 
i haven't heard that, but that would indeed be unconscionable.

in the 2006 WC final, there was a long delay between zidane's head-butt and the red card.  i remember reading/hearing that the only reason he got ejected was b/c they kept replaying the hit on the giant screens  - the refs saw the replays, and not the hit in real-time.  sounds like the french have the most to lose from the introduction of instant replay :P

the official shouldnt need instant replay to make the correct call there, and tradition doesnt obsolve him of the duty to get blantant handball calls correct. plus henry was offsides to begin with

by the same logic, fifa should expect complaints if ireland (or bosnia-herzegovina) were hard done in a seeded playoff that was supposed to be unseeded…

stu47 wrote:
why do I see a Portugal, Brazil, Ivory Coast draw in the US future…….

way off. wow.

i dont think this could have worked out better

godsshoeshine wrote:
i dont think this could have worked out better

For England, no.  They must be stoked.  I'm a little worried that the US folks are overlooking Slovenia.

slovenia arent going to be the easiest win in the world, but they are certainly in the bottom 3 of the other euro pot. certainly an easier match than any team in the u.s.'s last wc group

Sun Headline after World Cup draw:

England
Algeria
Slovenia
Yanks

(emphasis not added, that's exactly how it looked)

Tevez update: seems to be finding his form.

Tevez moving may have worked out best for both ManU and City.

after today i cant decide if i'm more convinced that everton/landon donovan is a good fit or impressed that they got a point at the bridge. too bad man u couldnt capitalize.

2009/10 UEFA Champions League first knockout round draw

different calendar this year, not nice, but anyway, that's what we have, first games on the 16/17 and 23/24 February. Return games  9/10 and 16/17 of March.


VfB Stuttgart (GER) v FC Barcelona (ESP)
Olympiacos FC (GRE) v FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA)
FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) v Chelsea FC (ENG)
FC Bayern München (GER) v ACF Fiorentina (ITA)
PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS) v Sevilla FC (ESP)
Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) v Real Madrid CF (ESP)
FC Porto (POR) v Arsenal FC (ENG)
AC Milan (ITA) v Manchester United FC (ENG)

predictions
Barcelona, Bordeaux, Chelsea, Bayern, Sevilla, Lyon, Porto and Manchester Utd.