On the Eve of the new Season...

Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
Never saw the game…..should it have been a penalty, and was it a goal?
are you referring to rooney's slide that pushed cech into the net, well after he had caught it? the ball was definitely over the line, but my understanding is that the call was correct - momentum like does not a legal goal make.

over-all, a relatively unexciting game. good thing i got to watch over at a friend's… spent the money on fresh cherries, chips, and lager. yummy.
It's no biggie, the season's over, we won the main one, but as Giggsy said, if it's not a foul then it's a goal, and the ref never called it for a foul so it has to be a goal. Just imagine the belly-aching if it was at the other end.

HEY WE GOT OUR MAN!!! HARGREAVES WILL MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN MIDFIELD!
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i thought you worked at the 4 p's
I did. The original 4Ps was in Cleveland Park (now the 4 Green Fields) and I lived just a few blocks away. That's the one I worked at.

I have never been to the 4Ps in VA.
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
as Giggsy said, if it's not a foul then it's a goal, and the ref never called it for a foul so it has to be a goal. Just imagine the belly-aching if it was at the other end.
Giggs is right, but I would have called a foul.

You didn't miss much Mank. Relatively boring game with few chances. Some tired bodies out there for both squads.
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i thought you worked at the 4 p's
I did. The original 4Ps was in Cleveland Park (now the 4 Green Fields) and I lived just a few blocks away. That's the one I worked at.

I have never been to the 4Ps in VA.
that makes tons more sense than living in dc and working at a bar in falls church
Classy move from a classy owner….

Hayward frees Wolves

New owner agrees to inveset at least £30m in the club

Paul Doyle
Monday May 21, 2007
Guardian Unlimited

Sir Jack Hayward has agreed to "gift" Wolverhampton Wanderers to business Steve Morgan for a mere £10. As part of the deal, which should be formalised over the coming month, Morgan has agreed to invest £30m "for the benefit of the club".

Hayward bought Wolves for £2m in 1990 and has since then invested some £50m of his fortune into the club. He has been searching for someone to hand the club over to since 2003, but always insisted that his concern was not to make a financial killing on the deal but to ensure new life was breathed into the club. He has previously rejected takeover bids by, amongst others, Graeme Souness. "In Steve Morgan, Sir Jack feels he has finally found someone who not only has the best interests of the club at heat but also has the resources necessary to take over the responsibility for returning the club to its former greatness," read a club statement.

"It is intended that the new capital, over a period of time, will be used to help re-establish Wolves as a Premiership club. Although there is a significant amount of money there will not be an 'open cheque book' approach to signing players; instead the club will build on the current strategy of steadily and progressively developing a team of young, hungry and talented players."

Morgan made his fortune as the founder of house builder Redrow plc before selling a majority shareholding in 2000. He is chairman of a number of privately-owned companies including, Harrow Estates plc, one of the UK's contaminated land specialists. He came close to buying Liverpool in 2004, the club he has supported since childhood. "He fully understands the game, its importance to fans and its local community," contineud the Wolves' statement.

With a young, cheap squad, Wolves managed to finish fifth in the Championship this season before being beaten in the playoff semi-finals by local rivals West Brom. Their manager Mick McCarthy has been told his job is not in jeopardy despite the imminent takeover.
The first thing I'd do is can McCarthy. He's the Irish Kevin Keegan….he's 'almost' achieved so much, but actually achieved squat
Did anyone watch the final? What did you think?
HA HA HAHAHA HA HAHA HOOOOO HEEEE HAHAHAHAHA

Okay, now lets go count the trophies in the Anfield display cabinet for this season????

Gerrard is a tool.

<img src="http://www.bluekipper.com/assets/images/blubber/Shootin%20Shite!.gif" alt=" - " />
What goes……

"BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP"?

The Liverpool parade bus backing back into the garage!!!

:D
the fools lose, newcastle looks to be bought by an english billionaire

hopefully, the pieman is out

good times
Originally posted by ChampionshipVinyl:
Did anyone watch the final? What did you think?
I thought Liverpool were a little hard lucked to finish the first half down 1-0, but Milan were the class of the second half and deserved the win. Gerrard just couldn't get much going and Dida made a nice save in his one good opportunity.
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by ChampionshipVinyl:
Did anyone watch the final? What did you think?
I thought Liverpool were a little hard lucked to finish the first half down 1-0, but Milan were the class of the second half and deserved the win. Gerrard just couldn't get much going and Dida made a nice save in his one good opportunity.
Oh come on smackie….I would've put that one away and I'm almost 47 years old with a gimpy knee. Don't give the goalie credit for lousy finishing by Gerrard. It's amazing that a team could go so far with the goalie as the weakest link.

I'm still waiting for the scouse conspiricy theorists to come with some b.s. about finishing the game 30 seconds early seeing as it was AC Milan, who were initially banned from the competition for match fixing. That was strange I must admit…there should've been at least another full minute after the feined injury during the added time.
Never mind…
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
WOW!!!!!

No kidding. Peter Kenyon must be fit to be tied. That my friend, is the result of winning the Premiereship and not the FA and Carling Cups.
http://www.economist.com/world/britain/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9267864&amp;CFID=7155171&amp;CFTOKEN=74800451

Spoils to the victors
May 31st 2007
From The Economist print edition

New owners, more revenuesâ??and a change in the Euroworks?

ONE could hardly think of an unlikelier trophy for a billionaire businessman than Newcastle United Football Club, which has won no significant competition for decades. But stranger things have been happening in English football than the £133m bid for the club announced on May 24th by Mike Ashley, a sportswear mogul.

A slew of other prominent businessmen are also queuing up to buy football clubs. Thaksin Shinawatra, a deposed Thai prime minister, has made an indicative bid for Manchester City, and Southampton has recently received an offer from Paul Allen, one of the founders of Microsoft.

Why the continuing love affair with English clubs? Figures released on May 31st by Deloitte, an accounting firm, provide one answer: the revenues of Premier League clubs are likely to be almost £1.8 billion in the coming season, up from about £1.4 billion in the one just finished. In the past, such jumps in income have gone mostly to players, with little, if any, left over for club owners.

And for good reason: the market for talent in football is remarkably efficient. On the whole, those clubs that pay the most to players tend to win more games. And to the victors go the spoils. Teams that rank higher in the various leagues earn far more through marketing deals than those that they have beaten.

But two changes seem to be taking place in English football, says Dan Jones, who heads the sports group at Deloitte. The first is that English clubs have done a better job of marketing themselves and securing good broadcast deals than rivals elsewhere. In the next season Premier League clubs are likely to earn nearly £700m more than those in the next most lucrative European league, Italy's Serie A. The top English teams can now afford to pay so much for talent that, barring a very few rich clubs elsewhere such as Barcelona or Real Madrid, they are competing mostly with each other.

The second change is an influx of new owners such as Malcolm Glazer, an American who paid £790m to take over Manchester United in 2005. They are replacing an old guard who ran clubs for love and glory. Many of the newcomers have big debts, forcing them to focus on profit.

Such thinking has sports bureaucrats worried. A report on European football for the European Commission last year fretted that â??football should not be a contest between corporate leviathans with the outcome dictated by whoever has the deepest pocketsâ?. It urged cost controls such as a payroll tax on rich clubs to finance poorer ones. The aim is to retain a â??competitive balanceâ? so that fans do not lose interest in the game, thinking that their club has no shot at victory.

Stefan Szymanski, who teaches economics at Imperial College London, reckons one outcome of a proposal the European Commission is debating now could be the adoption of an American sports model that forces teams to share revenue and lets the worst of them pick some of the best new talent. That would make owning lower-ranking clubs more profitable. Perhaps Mr Ashley's purchase is not so odd after all.
outside of the big 4, is there a better club to own in england?

actually, i dont even care, as long as the fat freddy reign of terror is over
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
outside of the big 4, is there a better club to own in england?

actually, i dont even care, as long as the fat freddy reign of terror is over
Who's the 4th?