Yada
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Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
June 16, 2015 at 01:53 PM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
Space wrote:
Neko Case and Josh Ritter live are boring just like laying on the beach in the Caribbean is boring.
that's quite poetic. nice analogy.
I agree… may have to even steal that as my own.
hutch
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Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
June 16, 2015 at 01:55 PM UTC
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they do put you to sleep…
Yada
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Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
June 16, 2015 at 01:57 PM UTC
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Hutch wrote:
they do put you to sleep…
If you found their cds so boring, why did you pay to see them live?
jrpa
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Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
June 16, 2015 at 02:02 PM UTC
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grateful wrote:
I've never understood why poor people defend rich people. Its what leads so many to vote against their own economic self interest.
Again, that's not an apt analogy. Buying a CD vs Stealing it is not the same as "voting." Everyone gets a say in taxes, for example. People should weigh their own self-interests vs the greater good and vote accordingly, I agree.
Deciding you don't like a business' model and don't care about someone else's intellectual property rights and therefore you are going to steal something is not the same thing. It's not close. The artist "gets a say" because they created it. The label "gets a say" because they put up all the money to record it (in most cases.) The consumer "gets a say" only in the very limited sense of they can purchase it or not. The mental gymnastics people pull off about "the CD model is outdated, therefore I should be able to download it for free" or "I'm sure Ritter would prefer I listen to it for free but attend his concert" (sidenote: I love how many people are mindreaders and know what artists want) is staggering.
grateful
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Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
June 16, 2015 at 02:05 PM UTC
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The most rabid defenders of intellectual property rights actually don't own any intellectual property.
Yada
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Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
June 16, 2015 at 02:06 PM UTC
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Hutch wrote:
Yada wrote:
Hutch wrote:
they do put you to sleep…
If you found their cds so boring, why did you pay to see them live?
yawn..maybe i heard they were the best songwriters in America at their genre and thought I'd give them a chance…
jrpa
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Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
June 16, 2015 at 02:15 PM UTC
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grateful wrote:
The most rabid defenders of intellectual property rights actually don't own any intellectual property.
Do you actually think that if a business' model is inefficient people should be able to steal from them?
"Oh, well, Walmart isn't monetizing Milano cookies to the maximum effect, let's smash in this plate glass window and ransack the place!" Are you actually proposing we just throw intellectual property out the window? I'm sure having no way to monetize software, books, music, movies, etc is going to be super great for us as a society.
It's easy to respond to just respond to things with one-sentence trite, ad homonym, non-sequitur but it doesn't hold up to ten seconds of analysis.
grateful
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Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
June 16, 2015 at 02:24 PM UTC
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Oh no, it wasn't a compendium of thoughts about intellectual property. My point was that from an economic perspective, your moral high ground doesn't serve your individual interests.
jrpa
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Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
June 16, 2015 at 02:37 PM UTC
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grateful wrote:
your moral high ground doesn't serve your individual interests.
The same is true if you could have $10 but 3 million Cambodian children die as a result and you pass on the $10.
grateful
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Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
June 16, 2015 at 03:12 PM UTC
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Correct.
jrpa
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Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
June 16, 2015 at 03:23 PM UTC
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grateful wrote:
Correct.
Sidehatch
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Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
June 16, 2015 at 04:33 PM UTC
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man step away for some meetings and PSB turns into some serious back and forth
although signifying nothing
jrpa
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Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
June 16, 2015 at 04:39 PM UTC
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Sidehatch wrote:
some serious back and forth although signifying nothing
TIL, serious back and forth = sound and fury.
Sidehatch
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June 16, 2015 at 04:47 PM UTC
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Julian, wrote:
Sidehatch wrote:
some serious back and forth although signifying nothing
TIL, serious back and forth = sound and fury.
the bard, not a resident of Yoknapatawpha County
gavroche
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June 18, 2015 at 03:32 PM UTC
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I went to Moz at echo stage last night and had a surprisingly good time. I ended up getting my tickets for a little less than $25 each on the secondary market. Echostage was horrible to get to from the city without a car. We were going to take the D2 but it never showed up and we got nervous so we ended up taking the metro to NOMA and then the shuttle (which was basically a school bus). As a result we didn't get to go to Panda Gourmet. We got to NOMA about 7:00 and were in front of echostage about 7:40 with a line wrapping all the way around the block. It moved ok and were in just after 8:00. I ended up about 1/3 of the way up front on the floor. Site was actually decent for a venue that big and there was decent room to move around. Sound was a little echoie but not bad. Moz was everything I expected, and a little bit more. There was a moment where he caught a flower mid flight without breaking his note that was hilarious. Really gruesome screen graphics during meat is murder as well. I didn't have any problems with the place being too warm, in fact I was under a vent and freezing until I was able to move up a bit. I was fortunately to be able to snag a ride to the metro on the way out though and not have to deal with that shuttle business. Echo stage is a major commitment for people like me who don't drive.
K8teebug
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Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
June 18, 2015 at 03:43 PM UTC
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Glad it was fun! Should have warned you about meat is murder.