The 2020 thread....

I'd like to think there were a lot of people who voted for Trump on the thought "we need an outsider in there"
"we need to shake things up to get things changed in govenment" …are now thinking 'jez, this is far worse than I expected' and not vote for trump again.


but the odds makers are already favoring trump…and I don't know if my psyche can take 6 more years of this

Why President Trump Will Likely Be Reelected, And What It Means For Global Security

…polls showing weak approval of the president’s performance have lulled Democrats into thinking his defeat is nearly inevitable in 2020. But Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan were both unpopular during their first terms, and then went on to score landslide victories against opponents who made the incumbent look good.

people have gotten used to Trump. He doesn’t seem as outrageous as he once did. His critics will fret that this amounts to “normalizing deviance,” but what it really shows is that two years in the nation’s top job have taken the edge off of Trump’s confrontational personality. He no longer sounds like the strident outsider he was on inauguration day.

Well this dude works for a Republican think tank but yeah the incumbent in a good economy has an edge usually

Trump is not usually

hutch wrote:
Well this dude works for a Republican think tank

not going to argue that…but I do think he makes some pretty good points that made me throw up in my mouth and have an aneurysm

That’s true

this gallup poll was not comforting etiher…

https://news.gallup.com/poll/247016/conservatives-greatly-outnumber-liberals-states.aspx



I think I need to Learn to Stop Worrying and Love the MAGA

The harder we accept things are going to be to unseat Trump -the less delusional we are - the more the appeal of Joe Biden…


On the other hand this would seem to run counter to the motivate your base argument


It’s all about balance!

hutch wrote:
The harder we accept things are going to be to unseat Trump -the less delusional we are - the more the appeal of Joe Biden…


On the other hand this would seem to run counter to the motivate your base argument


It’s all about balance!

Biden/Harris?

Biden is so old i can't imagine him being more than a one-termer…

Ticket speculation is not serious…let them run the campaign and then we talk


Also when was the last time anyone successfully handed off the presidency to their VP after one term?

It just doesn’t work like that in the real world

Defamatory wrote:

hutch wrote:
Well this dude works for a Republican think tank

not going to argue that…but I do think he makes some pretty good points that made me throw up in my mouth and have an aneurysm

We also have no idea what two years of investigation will do to Trump.  It absolutely hammered Clinton and she didn't even have real skeletons. 

I think we know it will do nothing

Be realistic….wishful thinking isn’t going to defeat him

If I had a nickel for every person that told me he would be impeached or resign cause he didn’t enjoy being president…

His popularity has held steady through 5643 scandals

hutch wrote:
I think we know it will do nothing

Be realistic….wishful thinking isn’t going to defeat him

If I had a nickel for every person that told me he would be impeached or resign cause he didn’t enjoy being president…

His popularity has held steady through 5643 scandals

It's not about him being impeached, resigning, just his popularity being suppressed.    With the House the Dems can set the narrative rather than just react to Trump's tweets all the time. I think it will have an impact.

Hillary had high approval numbers and Benghazi definitely stuck to her after a while, even if it was subconscious. 

But Trump’s approval is always the same give a few points here or there no matter what happens….that’s my point

We have had dozens of things happen that are insane and it doesn’t move the needle

Do you think the Kushner security clearance will have any impact? Of course not…it’s all baked in…everyone knows he is a slime bag lying piece of shit but nobody cares…his supporters like him

hutch wrote:
But Trump’s approval is always the same give a few points here or there no matter what happens….that’s my point

We have had dozens of things happen that are insane and it doesn’t move the needle

Do you think the Kushner security clearance will have any impact? Of course not…it’s all baked in…everyone knows he is a slime bag lying piece of shit but nobody cares…his supporters like him

There is a set of people that are always going to like him.  You are just hoping to knock off two or three percent overall. 

There's never been focused attention on any one scandal.  We just spin from one to the other because he controls the narrative and he thrives on chaos.  Dems get to try to put some order to the narrative.  Might do nothing to him, but I think it might.

And while I actually think nepotism could be damaging to him, it isn't going to be something like Kushner's security clearance.  It is more likely to be shady connections to the Saudi's, or the Russians, that get fleshed out. 

did Bloomberg get things done?  did he manage a city that is so damn hard to tangle down in a single sentence?  did the man have the respect?  can Bloomberg be our next president?

the, end.

I had a dream of beato putting a half-pipe in the rose garden

and Hickenlooper might put one of these in the lincoln bedroom

and Bill Weld is going to try to take trump out in the primaries…bold, but up hill with 80% approval by republicans

Predictably no Bloomberg run

hutch wrote:
Predictably no Bloomberg run

I like the guy, but don't think he has any appeal in red states at all….

but his money and influence should help
Mr. Bloomberg also expects to be heavily involved in the 2020 general election, organizing and funding opposition to Mr. Trump.

He has very little appeal….and he would have only hurt a Biden run…

Everything indicates Biden will run but the hatred and resistance from the progressive wing of the Democrats is pretty astounding….reminds me of how the same people acted with respect to HRC…worrying

I know it sounds silly, but Biden is the king of the gaffe and there are probably 100 incidents of him saying something wrong and looking stupid

if he runs, we are going to learn about every single time he mispoke and the are going to grill that in to the public
"would you want Biden to be in charge of the nuclear codes when he can't even remember his wife's name"

I do agree that the progressive wing of the Democrats may determine the loser of 2020 over anything that trump does


Kinda forgot that Garcetti and Holder also dropped out
sooo much time before the primaries, I think it's foolish to announce early
Unless you have zero name recognition, it just puts a target on you for a longer period of time


This Axios page is pretty good to keep tabs on who is running or not

Gaffes? Trump is President!!