Sidehatch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
December 31, 2018 at 04:44 PM UTC
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Elizabeth Warren made it official
well announced an exploratory committee…but kind of the same thing
although just saw this Most voters will likely be surprised to learn she’s only eight years younger than Sanders.
jrpa
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Re: The 2020 thread....
December 31, 2018 at 04:48 PM UTC
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Awful potential candidate. Would get crushed.
ggw
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Re: The 2020 thread....
December 31, 2018 at 05:01 PM UTC
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Potentially our first Native American president. How exciting!
Space Freely
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Re: The 2020 thread....
December 31, 2018 at 05:02 PM UTC
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My wife asked her dad why he voted for Trump.
Answer:
Because the Republicans are useless and the Democrats represent everything I am against. And Trump seemed like the best hope against them both.
Who is the candidate who will woo him? Or should we just hope for him to die?
hutch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
December 31, 2018 at 05:34 PM UTC
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Well wether to woo or not depends on wether a person is wooable but anyone who says democrats represent everything they are against is hopeless at this point…democrats are going to move left during the primaries…
I kind of have come to conclude that the whole appeal to undecideds or independents theory is bullshit…,excite your base…get them out and convert more people to your ideas NOT act wushu washy and water down your stances to appeal to a person who despises everything about your party thus alienating your base and making sure they don’t turn out
hutch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
December 31, 2018 at 05:41 PM UTC
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Warren would lose but that does not mean she should not run
I say let them all run…the more the better…
I don’t get people who get annoyed when people they think would not make a good candidate choose to run for President
I think Warren has no shot but maybe she will bring some good ideas to the table and someone else can choose to adopt them…
Space Freely
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Re: The 2020 thread....
December 31, 2018 at 06:14 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
Well wether to woo or not depends on wether a person is wooable but anyone who says democrats represent everything they are against is hopeless at this point…democrats are going to move left during the primaries…
I kind of have come to conclude that the whole appeal to undecideds or independents theory is bullshit…,excite your base…get them out and convert more people to your ideas NOT act wushu washy and water down your stances to appeal to a person who despises everything about your party thus alienating your base and making sure they don’t turn out
He's a devout Catholic who does daily bible readings. By "everything I'm against" I'm sure he means "Democrats want to kill "babies.""
Because other than the abortion issue, it seems to me that the Democratic party is much more in line with Jesus' teachings than the Republican party.
Sidehatch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
December 31, 2018 at 06:18 PM UTC
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I'm going to be a contrarian on this thread, but I totally disagree that she would get crushed and has no chance
She's not my top pick for sure, but I think she does inspire the base and the youth vote and as Hutch said, she might bring some good issues to the forefront that another candidate will say "that's not a bad idea and people seem to like it…thanks liz"
still pissed off at her for giving in to Trump and making her DNA test public…that was a stupid move and may show that she's not fit to run against trump
..evidenced by
ggw wrote:Potentially our first Native American president. How exciting!
of course Trump re-neged on his offer to donate to charity too Trump on Elizabeth Warren, 7/5/2018: "I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you’re an Indian."
but it's not like his base (or the whole freakin elected GOP) cares if he keeps to his word or ever tells the truth
I think it's really sad that 1/3 of the country really doesn't care if the president actually tells the truth on a regular basis?!
ends justifies the means…we get our judges and tax breaks…who cares about the rest of that other stuff it's just noize from the fake news liberal media
hutch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
December 31, 2018 at 06:46 PM UTC
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Well then there is no point trying to woo him as the democrats see being pro choice as a key part of their platform and that ain’t going to change
Personally I am pro life for MYSELF but since I can’t have babies by myself it matters not a whit…but I just don’t feel comfortable telling someone else what to do on this
I do think the democrats overdo it though…can’t we be pro choice and at the same time do more to encourage people not to abort?!? Is that so wrong?!? Can’t we accept abortion is a bad outcome?
I wish so hard we had not miscarried what would have been my third kid…now we are too old and I have accepted I will not have more kids…but boy did I want that one…life is precious and babies are such a blessing that even though I am pro choice I will always have trouble with abortion…millions of babies never born…it’s crazy
Sidehatch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
December 31, 2018 at 06:53 PM UTC
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man, with your stance on Immigration coupled with your statement below…you might have to turn in your democrat card
I do agree we've created a situation where Democrats can't talk about either of these topics unless it's exactly on the party line
Space Freely
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Re: The 2020 thread....
December 31, 2018 at 06:56 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
Well then there is no point trying to woo him as the democrats see being pro choice as a key part of their platform and that ain’t going to change
Personally I am pro life for MYSELF but since I can’t have babies by myself it matters not a whit…but I just don’t feel comfortable telling someone else what to do on this
I do think the democrats overdo it though…can’t we be pro choice and at the same time do more to encourage people not to abort?!? Is that so wrong?!? Can’t we accept abortion is a bad outcome?
I wish so hard we had not miscarried what would have been my third kid…now we are too old and I have accepted I will not have more kids…but boy did I want that one…life is precious and babies are such a blessing that even though I am pro choice I will always have trouble with abortion…millions of babies never born…it’s crazy
My thought on abortion is if you're against it, don't have one.
He also cancelled his Netflix account, I think in part because of Michelle Wolf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w955V6ULd4 Her vile, flip attitude is enough the make many retch. He probably thinks she represents all Dems.
Space Freely
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Re: The 2020 thread....
December 31, 2018 at 06:58 PM UTC
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Skronk-Hatch wrote:
man, with your stance on Immigration coupled with your statement below…you might have to turn in your democrat card
I do agree we've created a situation where Democrats can't talk about either of these topics unless it's exactly on the party line
I don't remember his exact stance on immigrants, but agree with him 100% on abortion.
Sidehatch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
December 31, 2018 at 08:04 PM UTC
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Space wrote:
Skronk-Hatch wrote:
man, with your stance on Immigration coupled with your statement below…you might have to turn in your democrat card
I do agree we've created a situation where Democrats can't talk about either of these topics unless it's exactly on the party line
I don't remember his exact stance on immigrants, but agree with him 100% on abortion.
whoa…100% agreement with hutch…is this bizarro day
Space wrote:
My thought on abortion is if you're against it, don't have one.
I just don't think it's that simple. You can say that about Howard Stern, but I think it's way more coplex when talking about the medical procedure to terminate ones pregnancy
there is some Scientific and Moral implications that society has to weigh in on that we all are accountable for
The irony is the same people who want to ban access to abortion are the same people who want to take away welfare/food stamps and other things that are very charitable and dare I say Jesus-like
I do also cry bullshit that men can't weigh in on this topic, but I'm in agreement that its essential to have women at the table in this dicussion
Space Freely
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Re: The 2020 thread....
January 02, 2019 at 10:56 PM UTC
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Sidehatch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
January 07, 2019 at 05:25 PM UTC
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Bernie …
Don't RunBernie Sanders' hometown paper doesn't want him to run for president
hutch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
January 07, 2019 at 07:02 PM UTC
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I think they are all running
jrpa
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Re: The 2020 thread....
January 12, 2019 at 10:53 PM UTC
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He’s not going to win, but there’s something about the Julian For The Future tagline thats awfully faith-inspiring.
Sidehatch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
January 13, 2019 at 01:45 AM UTC
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Julian, wrote:
He’s not going to win, but there’s something about the Julian For The Future tagline thats awfully faith-inspiring.
You have to start the thread and it will come true
How do you think relaxer did it….
ggw
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Re: The 2020 thread....
January 16, 2019 at 05:48 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
I will not support Gillibrand in any way
That I can tell you
Kirsten Gillibrand Announces Presidential Bid
hutch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
January 16, 2019 at 06:16 PM UTC
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Fine…I would vote for her against Trump but would not canvass or donate
