The 2020 thread....

Julian, wrote:
I do not understand what geographically or demographically she adds!

my reading is that kamala check the "minimum" box (female), and has a bonus of being POC.  that's good enough, and let's face it, biden is the candidate of good enough.  so while others might be even better than kamala, she is sufficient.  if biden has a personal preference for her (they work well together/have chemistry, has the policy chops he's looking for, etc.) then that might tip it.  i'm not saying i agree with this, just a plausible explanation…

Julian, wrote:
Abrams (a person whose resume is so wax paper thin I’m stunned she gets mentioned, but I digress…)

as many rookie/inexperienced politicians have proven time and time again, the lack of a resume is a good thing.  nothing to attack.  certainly helped the orange buffoon defeat the trainwreck in 2016.

I don’t know what you guys are smoking




Picking someone to turn a state is pointless just as pointless as picking Kaine was (in the end)

https://theweek.com/speedreads/918128/republicans-are-reportedly-getting-worried-about-trumps-reelection-odds

Root for whoever your own pick is but at the end of the day all that matters i is it’s someone Biden is comfortable with (Obama too imo)

If we need anything it’s for black people - women- to stand in streets for 5 hours waiting to vote for Biden

I think a Black woman, even if half Asian etc , will do the trick


But it can’t be someone that the establishment and white Americans see as a threat to turn things upside down

Also can you seriously imagine a lot of raport between Joe and Val or Abrams? I don’t see it.. Joe and Harris I do

That’s my take..I think he will pick Harris but whatever

Also why a black person? Because blacks delivered the nomination to Joe in a beautiful giftwrapped package with a nice bow! You think that doesn’t matter?

And after this week? You kidding me

Also this half Asian thing is such a crock

Need I remind you Obama is half white

The sad reality is that fact may make Harris more palatable to many people

Another thing that’s great about Harris? She will eat Pence alive and can be ruthless in general something Biden is not prone (maybe able anymore?) to do

hutch wrote:

Another thing that’s great about Harris? She will eat Pence alive and can be ruthless in general something Biden is not prone (maybe able anymore?) to do

That is a key reason she is in contention
there is a good argument to have a bulldog as a VP to punch and attack from the side without sullying the record of the Candidate

I think she would eat pence alive and respond to every sad Team Trump tweet like a boss and make trump look small

She doesn't deliver a state, but seems that rarely helps

so does she depress the vote… is the question

The only base she doesn’t cover is the progressive one which Warren kind of does but if you don’t think some Sanders supporters are never going to forgive her…

The optics of Biden- Warren are terrible..two elderly white  people..I don’t care what polls say it will be perceived as a major slap in the face by black people who know Biden owes them everything..Not to mention she is annoying and Trump will continue eating her alive…never mind Biden and her do not share much ideological affinity and people will make hay on their differences

This election is going to be a walk for Biden anyways but if you want a guarantee try to rebuild the Obama coalition which was fairly moderate Democrat not progressive…Hillary’s big issue was blacks not wanting to stand in line for 5 hours in Philly, Milwaukee and Detroit..it’s that simple…

At least that’s the way I see it…

hutch wrote:
Also this half Asian thing is such a crock

Need I remind you Obama is half white

The sad reality is that fact may make Harris more palatable to many people

Another thing that’s great about Harris? She will eat Pence alive and can be ruthless in general something Biden is not prone (maybe able anymore?) to do

Obama married a strong, beautiful black woman who gave him more cred with Blacks. Kamala married a white Jewish guy. He was also a community activist, she was law enforcement.

Bunker wrote:

hutch wrote:

Another thing that’s great about Harris? She will eat Pence alive and can be ruthless in general something Biden is not prone (maybe able anymore?) to do

That is a key reason she is in contention
there is a good argument to have a bulldog as a VP to punch and attack from the side without sullying the record of the Candidate

I think she would eat pence alive and respond to every sad Team Trump tweet like a boss and make trump look small

She doesn't deliver a state, but seems that rarely helps

so does she depress the vote… is the question

Do people give a hoot about the VP debate?

Well a bit..let’s say Biden falters in a debate..then it becomes slightly important

And whether people care the media writes a lot about the debates..a few days of bad press from a debate can hurt a little in the final weeks when a positive news cycle is more important than say now

Also Biden’s VP pick will get more scrutiny due to his being old

This is why less vetted candidates should be off the table..Abrams, Demings etc…number one thing is avoid a Palin

Space wrote:

hutch wrote:
Also this half Asian thing is such a crock

Need I remind you Obama is half white

The sad reality is that fact may make Harris more palatable to many people

Another thing that’s great about Harris? She will eat Pence alive and can be ruthless in general something Biden is not prone (maybe able anymore?) to do

Obama married a strong, beautiful black woman who gave him more cred with Blacks. Kamala married a white Jewish guy. He was also a community activist, she was law enforcement.

This is hogwash

What gave him credibility was he is black and was eventually perceived by blacks as being able to win

This idea that Obama was perceived as being only half black is baloney..maybe that’s the way you perceive him? But he was always the black man running for President, the black man who won Iowa, the first black president

I think you are projecting your own perceptions

Anyways I am done discussing this stuff….we keep saying the same shit over and everyone from their particular bent….let’s see who Biden picks

My prediction is Harris which is not a leap as she is the odds on favorite and has been since she dropped out!! Maybe even before


Then my other prediction is Biden will destroy Trump which is arguably a newer prediction since it responds to the covid19 debacle and recent events..before covid (and the tremendous economic impact) I thought Trump would win a tight one


And that’s all I got

Space wrote:

hutch wrote:
Also this half Asian thing is such a crock

Need I remind you Obama is half white

The sad reality is that fact may make Harris more palatable to many people

Another thing that’s great about Harris? She will eat Pence alive and can be ruthless in general something Biden is not prone (maybe able anymore?) to do

Obama married a strong, beautiful black woman who gave him more cred with Blacks.

how's this for a scenario: Biden picks Michelle Obama as his VP.  he serves his single term, and we then get 8 years of Obama v2.

i'd be OK with that.

sweetcell wrote:

Space wrote:

hutch wrote:
Also this half Asian thing is such a crock

Need I remind you Obama is half white

The sad reality is that fact may make Harris more palatable to many people

Another thing that’s great about Harris? She will eat Pence alive and can be ruthless in general something Biden is not prone (maybe able anymore?) to do

Obama married a strong, beautiful black woman who gave him more cred with Blacks.

how's this for a scenario: Biden picks Michelle Obama as his VP.  he serves his single term, and we then get 8 years of Obama v2.

i'd be OK with that.

Short of (possibly) Hillary Clinton, no VP would fire up the GOP voting base more to come out than Michelle Obama, who is so hilariously unqualified she makes Stacy Abrams look like a founding father.

Yeah, Michelle, while she is great…zero government experience (worked for trump ;) )

I don't think we need to worry about the GOP voting base, they are coming out no matter what VP pick
But that base is only 35-40% of the voters…it's the people in the middle (in swing states) we need to be wary of

:P

Bunker wrote:
Yeah, Michelle, while she is great…zero government experience (worked for trump ;) )

Trump has been an unmitigated failure in no short part because he was woefully unqualified. We are supposed to be the party of adults.

Julian, wrote:
:P

Bunker wrote:
Yeah, Michelle, while she is great…zero government experience (worked for trump ;) )

Trump has been an unmitigated failure in no short part because he was woefully unqualified. We are supposed to be the party of adults.

I was hoping the  ;) would imply sarcasm…

Bunker wrote:

Julian, wrote:
:P

Bunker wrote:
Yeah, Michelle, while she is great…zero government experience (worked for trump ;) )

Trump has been an unmitigated failure in no short part because he was woefully unqualified. We are supposed to be the party of adults.

I was hoping the  ;) would imply sarcasm…

I couldn’t tell if you were saying his lack of experience (being an outsider) is part of what got him elected (“worked for him”) which is true. But his inability to even do the most basic functions of the office should’ve disproven the idea that someone from the business world can just walk in and run the office of the Presidency which I would hope is the lesson Dems take away and don’t do something stupid over the next decade like run Michelle, Oprah or Mark Cuban for President.

could be Joni is going to pay a price too

recent polling
Iowa Senate GE:
Theresa Greenfield (D) 45% (+2)
Joni Ernst (R-inc) 43%

3rd wrote:
could be Joni is going to pay a price too

recent polling
Iowa Senate GE:
Theresa Greenfield (D) 45% (+2)
Joni Ernst (R-inc) 43%

I gotta see some more polling before I believe this seat is seriously up for grabs. I still think Trump take Iowa easily and that rising tide is gonna float some boats.

Julian, wrote:

3rd wrote:
could be Joni is going to pay a price too

recent polling
Iowa Senate GE:
Theresa Greenfield (D) 45% (+2)
Joni Ernst (R-inc) 43%

I gotta see some more polling before I believe this seat is seriously up for grabs. I still think Trump take Iowa easily and that rising tide is gonna float some boats.

I agree…and it was an Emily's list poll…so not sure on the credibility
but it was still nice to see some cracks in the facade and possible senate takeover!