The 2020 thread....

Here's a summary. His supporters don't care. Republican don't care. Democrats are too weak to do anything about it. Everybody thinks if they just vote it will change something. Nothing changes and nothing fucking matters, to people obsessedwith politics.

The, end.

Well the thing is most people go about their jobs and raising family and they really don’t care about the minutiae of inside the beltway politics

By this point many Trump supporters are tuning all this stuff out while a few million liberals get giddy “This is what will take him down!”

I watched Trump’s presser with Australian PM and to me he looks comfortable and like he has grown into the job and in his own way he is very likable

I think he will be re-elected unless something major changes both with respect to the economy and the democratic candidates

hutch wrote:
I think he will be re-elected unless something major changes

so depressing and possible

hutch wrote:
I think he will be re-elected unless something major changes both with respect to the economy and the democratic candidates

there are other possibilities… i'm still holding out hope that a big enough scandal will catch up with him.  not sure if this "ukrainian aid for biden dirt" fracas will do it, but if he's caught on tape accepting a bribe or we get proof that he is directing business to himself, or some such.

sweetcell wrote:

hutch wrote:
I think he will be re-elected unless something major changes both with respect to the economy and the democratic candidates

there are other possibilities… i'm still holding out hope that a big enough scandal will catch up with him.  not sure if this "ukrainian aid for biden dirt" fracas will do it, but if he's caught on tape accepting a bribe or we get proof that he is directing business to himself, or some such.

There has to be some pictures of Trunp in blackface somewhere.

Space wrote:

sweetcell wrote:

hutch wrote:
I think he will be re-elected unless something major changes both with respect to the economy and the democratic candidates

there are other possibilities… i'm still holding out hope that a big enough scandal will catch up with him.  not sure if this "ukrainian aid for biden dirt" fracas will do it, but if he's caught on tape accepting a bribe or we get proof that he is directing business to himself, or some such.

There has to be some pictures of Trunp in blackface somewhere.

That would only help him probably

sweetcell wrote:

hutch wrote:
I think he will be re-elected unless something major changes both with respect to the economy and the democratic candidates

there are other possibilities… i'm still holding out hope that a big enough scandal will catch up with him.  not sure if this "ukrainian aid for biden dirt" fracas will do it, but if he's caught on tape accepting a bribe or we get proof that he is directing business to himself, or some such.

The bribe acceptance on tape might do it depending on source…

The rest no

So who do you guys think is the whistleblower?

Dan Coats?

predictions on Pelosi's 5PM press conf

I'm Pea Smint?

Nobel wrote:
predictions on Pelosi's 5PM press conf

I mean, I think it's obviously announcing an impeachment inquiry.

Julian, wrote:

Nobel wrote:
predictions on Pelosi's 5PM press conf

I mean, I think it's obviously announcing an impeachment inquiry.

hows that going to impact Trumps nomination for the Noble Peace Prize?

Now Trump says he will release unredacted transcript of call tomorrow


Tulsi Gabbard does not support impeachment

People assume democrats have votes in the house but what if they don’t even have that!

Nobel wrote:

Julian, wrote:

Nobel wrote:
predictions on Pelosi's 5PM press conf

I mean, I think it's obviously announcing an impeachment inquiry.

hows that going to impact Trumps nomination for the Noble Peace Prize?

He probably spells it just like you do.

hutch wrote:
Now Trump says he will release unredacted transcript of call tomorrow


Tulsi Gabbard does not support impeachment

People assume democrats have votes in the house but what if they don’t even have that!

She's another Russian stooge.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/russia-s-propaganda-machine-discovers-2020-democratic-candidate-tulsi-gabbard-n964261

I know but she still gets a vote

This is high stakes

What if phone call transcript comes out and it’s completely innocuous?

Name Biden better be on that transcript

watching Newsmax CEO Chris Ruddy on CNN tonight

Trump’s best advocate/defender…maybe only effective one

Made some good points between Lemmon interruptions

FOX News on the other hand is just sheer lunacy

time to play fear & fantasy:

hutch wrote:
What if phone call transcript comes out and it’s completely innocuous?

my fear: trump (or more likely someone around him) is playing 3D chess.  they knew the Dems would go ape-shit for a whistleblower story, so when they got a weak-sauce complaint that won't stick, they made a big dog-n-pony show of saying it exists but not releasing it, Dems bit hook line and sinker, and the grand finally: a weak-sauce complaint.  cue the sad trombones, Dems have egg on their face, trump cruises to a reelection on the platform of "see how insane and self-deluded those donkeys are."

my fantasy: there is a "there" there, but the complaint + transcription aren't quite enough to seal the deal.  Pence, in the sidelines, sees his big chance: he leaks some info/tapes/etc., trump is carted away, and he achieves his life-long dream of being president.  but wait, there's more!  pence's role as the leaker is discovered, he himself is impeached and removed, and Pelosi becomes acting prez for a short time until Nov 2020 when someone sane takes over the Oval Office.  cue the credits.

Well well well