Sidehatch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
July 29, 2020 at 05:15 PM UTC
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TeamTrump quietly pulls add spending int the great swing state of Michigan
Looks like they are conceding The Wolverine State and focusing money on states they think they can win
in recent days, Mr. Trump’s campaign stopped buying ads in Michigan entirely.https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/29/us/politics/michigan-trump-biden-2020.html
hutch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
July 29, 2020 at 05:18 PM UTC
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Well I think the V.P. should be a black woman because it helps and is the right thing to do for Biden (he owes) and the country (we need this)
At the same time I think this election has gotten away from Trump so it won’t really matter for the election so the issues are more about future governance
But when you make all these points about how great Warren is and tag someone as a black Hillary Clinton well I just don’t agree…I also think Warren has little in common with Biden…I realize some see that as an asset..I don’t
Ultimately though I am just pointing out that Kamala and Rice are the favorites and your response is that’s insanity..I think given the current electoral context you reaction is completely overboard and kind of discredits you…
sweetcell
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Re: The 2020 thread....
July 29, 2020 at 06:07 PM UTC
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Julian, wrote:
the literally tens of polls of African American voters I have posted that all show them with a preference for Elizabeth Warren.
and i'll counter with literally tens of polls that show Harris in the lead, and i even found one that had Abrams on top. warren does come out on top more often than the others, but the point is: there isn't a clear-cut preference for Warren, and she certainly doesn't have runaway candidate-type enthusiasm behind her.
layer on top the horrible optics of yet another all-white ticket, and Warren is sunk IMHO. some black voters will be disappointed if she doesn't get the nod, but the consolation prize will be a woman of color.
hutch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
July 29, 2020 at 06:20 PM UTC
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And Warren is 71!! To me it’s a non starter….
Space Freely
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Re: The 2020 thread....
July 29, 2020 at 06:22 PM UTC
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I wish Biden had never promised to pick a woman. He really painted himself into a corner on that one.
hutch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
July 29, 2020 at 06:28 PM UTC
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Who would make a great male VP for Biden?
Space Freely
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Re: The 2020 thread....
July 29, 2020 at 06:38 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
Who would make a great male VP for Biden?
Gavin Newsom, Jay Inslee, Cory Booker, Steve Bullock, Sherrod Brown…
grateful
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Re: The 2020 thread....
July 29, 2020 at 06:39 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
Who would make a great male VP for Biden?
George Carlin would be great! Sadly…
Sidehatch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
July 29, 2020 at 06:46 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
Who would make a great male VP for Biden?
I pick George Costanza
sweetcell
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Re: The 2020 thread....
July 29, 2020 at 06:54 PM UTC
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there… is… no… bottom…
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I am happy to inform all of the people living their Suburban Lifestyle Dream that you will no longer be bothered or financially hurt by having low income housing built in your neighborhood…
…Your housing prices will go up based on the market, and crime will go down. I have rescinded the Obama-Biden AFFH Rule. Enjoy!
i'm not making this up.
Sidehatch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
July 29, 2020 at 08:55 PM UTC
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I was all excited about the 'no-excuse' absentee voting in virgina…but I didn't realize this was enacted too
You can vote early at your local registrar’s office beginning 45 days before Election Dayhttps://www.elections.virginia.gov/casting-a-ballot/absentee-voting/which means you can vote on Saturday, September 19th, 2020
[move]52 days left![/move]
Sidehatch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
July 29, 2020 at 11:12 PM UTC
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Suburban wrote:
Labron helping to hook up the FL felons
LeBron James joins push to turn out ex-felon vote in Florida
Friday said it will donate $100,000 to help pay outstanding court debts of ex-felons so they can register to vote. The money will go to the Florida Rights Restoration Coalition,
support the Florida Rights Restoration Coalition https://floridarrc.com/
MJ says go big or go f'n home
Michael Jordan and the @Jumpman23 brand are donating $1 million to the @ficpfm to help combat disenfranchisement of people with felony convictions! #FRRC will receive $500,000 of that donation to help pay off the fees of FL returning citizens!We are getting close to coming up with donations to cover all the fees!
Talk about a way to directly end systematic racisim!
Sidehatch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
July 29, 2020 at 11:22 PM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
there… is… no… bottom…
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I am happy to inform all of the people living their Suburban Lifestyle Dream that you will no longer be bothered or financially hurt by having low income housing built in your neighborhood…
…Your housing prices will go up based on the market, and crime will go down. I have rescinded the Obama-Biden AFFH Rule. Enjoy!
i'm not making this up.
This was some good commentary on the idiocy of this plan of attack
G. Elliott Morris@gelliottmorris
Of the many reasons why Trump's campaign to radicalize white suburbanites against Democrats is doomed to fail is that the white share of the suburban pop has dropped from 93% to 65% since 1970. Plus, the (largely college-educated) whites that remain are overwhelmingly D. So The Trump campaign's strategy actually seems remarkably simple right now. They have realized there are not enough rural white voters to get Trump elected again, so they're using the DHS & cops to try to make cities look dangerous and scary again. But this isn't 1970 anymore. Trump got lucky in 2016. The suburbs in the Midwest are a bit more GOP than they are elsewhere (the coasts, the sunbelt) and so were willing to reluctantly vote for him and against a very unpopular and polarizing Hillary Clinton. That + the rural voters there won him the elec. This time around, it looks like suburbanites won't be so kind to him. They are demographically more friendly to Democrats and generally aren't as susceptible to the "law and order" rhetoric and white flight campaigns of the mid-to-late-1900s. This simply isn't a tactic for 2020. Add to all this that Joe Biden performs way better with rural, non-college whites than Clinton ever did and IMO even before you get to state-level polls, the president's position is pretty clearly inadequate. If you had looked at demographic trends and crosstabs on trade, immigration and elite favorability in 2016, you could have spotted the potential for error in the polls. This time around it doesn't look like the same path exists (though he could open up another one by e-day).
jrpa
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Re: The 2020 thread....
July 30, 2020 at 02:30 AM UTC
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hutch wrote:
I don’t know if I buy this….this is what I would call the Space Freely view of the election
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/29/opinions/swing-voters-midwest-trump-support-thau/index.html
I doubt any of the VP candidates would help with this group
I mean who can argue with a 33 person poll that purports to represent the views of 4 states full of people. Shut it down folks, 4 more years of Trump is here.
jrpa
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Re: The 2020 thread....
July 30, 2020 at 01:30 PM UTC
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Don’t worry guys, he poised it as a question. It’s fine.
hutch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
July 30, 2020 at 01:35 PM UTC
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Just getting the ammunition ready to discredit and challenge the results….