The 2020 thread....

SideHatch-Act wrote:

nkotb wrote:Half-measures here are the same as climate denial at this point.

Like it or not…the undecideds get to decide these elections and in the end we need to make sure they vote and vote D

This is a debatable statement.  The R's definitely don't think so, or they wouldn't be working so hard to suppress voters. Trump certainly hasn't been playing to the undecided either.

gavroche wrote:

SideHatch-Act wrote:

nkotb wrote:Half-measures here are the same as climate denial at this point.

Like it or not…the undecideds get to decide these elections and in the end we need to make sure they vote and vote D

This is a debatable statement.  The R's definitely don't think so, or they wouldn't be working so hard to suppress voters. Trump certainly hasn't been playing to the undecided either.

I'm sure you have more intimate knowledge on this topic than I…but 2016 was decided by the undecided

Trump won voters who decided in the last week of the campaign by a 59-30 margin in Wisconsin, 55-38 in Florida, 54-37 in Pennsylvania and 50-39 in Michigan, according to exit polls, which was enough to flip the outcome of those four states and their 75 combined electoral votes.

but you are right, Trump doesn't think he needs them (which frankly is crazy, but that's on brand)
Donald Trump is confident his core coalition of die-hard supporters can propel him to a second term in the White House, asserting in a new interview that he may not even bother reaching out to swing voters in his reelection campaign.

“I think my base is so strong, I’m not sure that I have to do that,”

Do you know who doesn't use the ballot box as a protest vote?

Republicans.  That's how they got George W. Bush and Donald Trump.

You can hate the system all you want, but if you don't fix it by election day, then you deserve what you get by protest voting on election day.

vansmack wrote:
Do you know who doesn't use the ballot box as a protest vote?

Republicans.  That's how they got George W. Bush and Donald Trump.

Republicans have no problem protesting at the voter box, in the primaries (see Eric Cantor).  Even Trump was a protest vote in the primaries.  They do, however, seem more united in never voting for a Democrat. 

Worth noting, however, that the libertarians are consistently the strongest performing 3rd party, not the greens. 

then there was 25
Former Rep. Joe Sestak, a Navy veteran who twice ran unsuccessfully for a Senate seat in Pennsylvania, is now the 25th entrant into the Democratic presidential primary.

not a enticing bio…

anyone getting excited for the debates?

what are the drinking games related to this one
edit…someone is on this http://www.debatedrinking.com/

Did someone make a score card that we can use during the debates

I won't be watching.  95% of those candidates won't even be on my ballot in March anyway and watching the debates won't change that.

you are correct…still may be good TV…but probably not
Problem with the format is there are just too many people on stage

Maybe the DNC should post more one on one interview style videos of all the candidates (asking them all the same questions)

Since this is the first major debate, chances are that a few will fuck themselves up pretty badly. I expect at least 5 to drop out by the end of next week.

so should we get a deadpool going?

FOR THE FUTURE has never seemed so present.

I didn't watch…heard the surprised look on Cory's face was the best thing of the night

Not wrote:
I didn't watch…heard the surprised look on Cory's face was the best thing of the night

Heres the rundown: the JULIANs killed it, Cory Booker looked surprised, other people were not named Julián.

Julian, wrote:

Not wrote:
I didn't watch…heard the surprised look on Cory's face was the best thing of the night

Heres the rundown: the JULIANs killed it, Cory Booker looked surprised, other people were not named Julián.

thanks for the summary now I don't have to waste my time finding it on youtube or whatever

Not wrote:

Julian, wrote:

Not wrote:
I didn't watch…heard the surprised look on Cory's face was the best thing of the night

Heres the rundown: the JULIANs killed it, Cory Booker looked surprised, other people were not named Julián.

thanks for the summary now I don't have to waste my time finding it on youtube or whatever

I mean Beto was also there and displayed no understanding on any topic brought up but he sure inspired the Vansmack/voted-for-Barack-instead-of-Hillary fringe of the party by making them feel good about how “inspiring” he is.

I love politics.  two days ago . . . julian castro who?

Julian, wrote:
I mean Beto was also there and displayed no understanding on any topic brought up but he sure inspired the Vansmack/voted-for-Hillary-instead-of-Bernie fringe of the party by making them feel good about how “inspiring” he is.

FTFY

finally some good news
The Trump administration can’t add a citizenship question to the 2020 Census unless and until it does a better job of explaining why that question is necessary, the Supreme Court said in a deeply fractured decision Thursday morning.

actually the SCOTUS has been fairly good in 2019, not perfect, but not as horrible as imagined
well the unions aren't that happy

ack…didn't see this one
In a 5-4 ruling, the Supreme Court said that cases about partisan gerrymandering are "beyond the reach of the federal courts" — a blow to voting-rights activists and Democrats.
I'm torn on this one, as states should govern how they do voting, but the problem is it such a sham

sweetcell wrote:

Julian, wrote:
I mean Beto was also there and displayed no understanding on any topic brought up but he sure inspired the Vansmack/voted-for-Hillary-instead-of-Bernie fringe of the party by making them feel good about how “inspiring” he is.

FTFY

Not sure what you fixed?  Edit: oh you changed Barack to Bernie.

Keep telling yourself the lie that Barack Obama was a good President. He was an articulate Jimmy Carter that let #woke kids tell you how #woke they were. Accomplished nothing aside from being better than a replacement-level GOP President. (Which, I mean, is something to be fair.)

the ACA (albeit a weak version) and averting the depression are pretty good achievements in my book

that they didn't get more done when they had congress and the executive is a little nuts tho…
Dems are just too damn nice