Liddle’ wrote:
He'll probably get pardoned…or trump will put a hit on him and make it look like the clinton's did it
I see you found the Liddle apostrophe.
I see you found the Liddle apostrophe.
The 2020 thread....
I see you found the Liddle apostrophe.
I mean, Bernie wouldn't even endorse his own son during his run for office…but i digress :)
This is one of those "not remotely a talking point" things that will absolutely work conservatives into a fervor. Already seeing it on my sister-in-laws Facebook posts.
This is one of those "not remotely a talking point" things that will absolutely work conservatives into a fervor. Already seeing it on my sister-in-laws Facebook posts.
Liddle’ wrote:
^you forgot to add…but not bernie
do we really feel that Biden is going to be unblemished by this Ukraine stuff…and I'm no way implying he did anything wrong
Just seems like even a bigger effort will be afoot to show that Biden did similar stuff with his power as VP
and honestly, if you have that kind of power, it is probably going to be easy to show other examples that look 'shady'
Edit…just saw this..confirming my theory
@NateSilver538
One reason I'd be concerned if I were Biden is that Trump & GOP allies have such terrible arguments in defense of his Ukraine conduct that his least-worst strategy might be to gin up a whole bunch of crazy Biden scandals.
Not that Trump doesn't have a long list already, but been shown not to matter to his base (but lost cause anyway)
I am thinking this time around that the independent voter will now have a record of Trump's actions in government to vote on, where before it was "let's give this outsider a chance"
He's swamp monster #1 and really can't hide that
I do think this unemployment/great economy is somewhat of a ruse to the middle/lower middle class. As most haven't seen a payraise in a decade and are probably working two jobs with their health care costs doubling in the last decade too
So regardless of the 'great economy' news…most Americans are not having a great one in their home
but we can't use facts is the problem, it's all about emotion
Also, love for Obama is really getting weak…kinda shocking IMO
Warren is going to get the Nom
not really sure on the running mate, but definitely not Biden or Sanders
and she beats trump by a hair…is my 9/30/19 proclamation
Just seems like even a bigger effort will be afoot to show that Biden did similar stuff with his power as VP
and honestly, if you have that kind of power, it is probably going to be easy to show other examples that look 'shady'
Edit…just saw this..confirming my theory
@NateSilver538
One reason I'd be concerned if I were Biden is that Trump & GOP allies have such terrible arguments in defense of his Ukraine conduct that his least-worst strategy might be to gin up a whole bunch of crazy Biden scandals.
Not that Trump doesn't have a long list already, but been shown not to matter to his base (but lost cause anyway)
I am thinking this time around that the independent voter will now have a record of Trump's actions in government to vote on, where before it was "let's give this outsider a chance"
He's swamp monster #1 and really can't hide that
I do think this unemployment/great economy is somewhat of a ruse to the middle/lower middle class. As most haven't seen a payraise in a decade and are probably working two jobs with their health care costs doubling in the last decade too
So regardless of the 'great economy' news…most Americans are not having a great one in their home
but we can't use facts is the problem, it's all about emotion
Also, love for Obama is really getting weak…kinda shocking IMO
Warren is going to get the Nom
not really sure on the running mate, but definitely not Biden or Sanders
and she beats trump by a hair…is my 9/30/19 proclamation
Amy going with the body count tatic
Amy Klobuchar Reveals She Once Killed A Duck While Playing Golf
and the count is increasing..
Rep. Mac Thornberry (R-Texas) announced Monday that he will not seek re-election in 2020, becoming 19th Republican overall to retire from the House this term.
19 is a lot for a job that has like a 90% incumbency rate
Amy Klobuchar Reveals She Once Killed A Duck While Playing Golf
and the count is increasing..
Rep. Mac Thornberry (R-Texas) announced Monday that he will not seek re-election in 2020, becoming 19th Republican overall to retire from the House this term.
19 is a lot for a job that has like a 90% incumbency rate
The minute they think Warren is going to be opponent they will do same to her
hutch wrote:
The minute they think Warren is going to be opponent they will do same to her
Do what? Kill her with a golf ball? INF.
hutch wrote:
The minute they think Warren is going to be opponent they will do same to her
I do think Space's golf ball threat is a possibility
of course they will
it's to her advantage to have Biden as the Tête de la course so he takes all the attacks for the longest amount of time
I just don't think she has 40+ years of baggage to pick apart
other than she's a democratic socialist (even though she says she's a capitalist) and don't think that's going to warm the independents up to her
You don’t think he is going to tear her apart on the Native American Indian stuff??
The point is they will make up stuff anyway
Remember Kerry and the swiftboat stuff???
I actually think Trump May be helping Joe by making it clear he sees him as his opponent
It’s up to democrats to wuss out
But who knows what will happen tomorrow much less the next day
The point is they will make up stuff anyway
Remember Kerry and the swiftboat stuff???
I actually think Trump May be helping Joe by making it clear he sees him as his opponent
It’s up to democrats to wuss out
But who knows what will happen tomorrow much less the next day
If you *had* to pick one, who do you guys think would have a better chance of defeating Trump, Sanders or Warren?
Rep. Chris Collins (R-N.Y.) is resigning due to a insider trading case that he's expected to plead guilty on….the first congressman to endorse President Trump in 2016
So did we just get to 20!
So did we just get to 20!
like almost all the candidates…just not Sanders…
it’s pretty hard (and pointless) to predict these things
Did anyone predict this Ukraine thing?
it’s pretty hard (and pointless) to predict these things
Did anyone predict this Ukraine thing?
Its hurting me to say it, but I agree with hutch. I think Biden is super weak on his voting record (Iraq War, NAFTA, criminal justice stuff) and his mental facilities…Trump will crush him on those, which is comical for obvious reasons. And I think he'll totally goad Warren with the Pocahontas stuff, which is a super self-inflicted wound…I don't see her being a good adversary to him on a debate stage. And I say that as somebody that really likes Warren a lot (despite her best efforts). The worst Trump can hit Bernie with is "socialism", which they say about anyone that's a democrat no matter how Republican-lite their policies are (and for which he has a pretty good answer for). I mean, even his nickname ("crazy") is weak.
In the long run, double-agree with hutch…one way or the other, they'll make shit up. You just have to hope the candidate is the one with the best answers. RIght now, I'm not confident most of them do.
In the long run, double-agree with hutch…one way or the other, they'll make shit up. You just have to hope the candidate is the one with the best answers. RIght now, I'm not confident most of them do.
hutch wrote:
You don’t think he is going to tear her apart on the Native American Indian stuff??
The point is they will make up stuff anyway
Remember Kerry and the swiftboat stuff???
I actually think Trump May be helping Joe by making it clear he sees him as his opponent
It’s up to democrats to wuss out
But who knows what will happen tomorrow much less the next day
Sanders is done…he has become the democrat’s Ron Paul…has a hard core base that gives him money and considers him God but that’s about it…can’t grow it…in fact Warren ate him alive this quarter and took away all his non hard core support
Maybe to be fair Sanders did move party to left but at what cost? Still remains to be tabulated…talk to me November 2020
Maybe to be fair Sanders did move party to left but at what cost? Still remains to be tabulated…talk to me November 2020
Are you coming onto me?
hutch wrote:
Sanders is done…he has become the democrat’s Ron Paul…has a hard core base that gives him money and considers him God but that’s about it…can’t grow it…in fact Warren ate him alive this quarter and took away all his non hard core support
Maybe to be fair Sanders did move party to left but at what cost? Still remains to be tabulated…talk to me November 2020
Why yes…yes I am…is it working?
Liz Warren wants y'all to know she loves corporate beer.
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That’s like saying she doesn’t like beer so what’s the point?
Interesting that if you look at Drudge Report Trump seems to have lost them….all extremely negative headlines about Trump
If Trump ever were to lose Fox News he would be toast
If Trump ever were to lose Fox News he would be toast
hutch wrote:
if you look at Drudge Report
wow, I hadn't looked at that site in a while
while it's never changed, it's kinda weird to get news like that in 2019
It just has a 'I just got Microsoft FrontPage 98, want me to make a website for you' vibe
random selection of headlines (could also be great band names)
Boy killed during exorcism…
AMAZON dystopian plan to be anywhere and everywhere…
Weight loss, dance and De Niro…
Global opera legend Jessye Norman dies…
What lawmakers said then, what they say now…
President Pelosi?
KANYE OF NAZARETH!
Trump has been talking shit about Fox this year, his baby is OAN (I bet we'll find a Russian connection there)
You know what would change everything….if Twitter de-platforms him
All the news reports on is his twiter feed, you don't even have to have twitter and every news outlet right/left will drop a few of them in their story.
It really would just take a flip of a switch at twitter
(Other than the investors in twitter who could stand to lose a lot of money, )what could Trump actualy do?
Would he have barney fife breaking down the server room door to say "turn my account back on"
It's a private company and it can not provide an account to anyone it seems fit
now he would just use his POTUS account, but I do think it might actually give him an anurisum and then we wouldn't have to go thru impeachment
Yada wrote:
What in the fuck https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1178821592421404678?s=19
artistically very cool
even interesting how they took what would seem embarrassing moments and made them look quaint
It looks like Fan based free 'art' but he's pinned it and sure likes it
I bet you this will be a part of a future digital or TV campaign Team trump does