The 2020 thread....

nkotb wrote: Just seems like they're trying to make fetch happen here.

watch it buddy…getting ready to cross a line where there's no going back

I think she should go with the campaign slogan she used in High School  "All the Way with Amy K."

Well obviously anybody supporting anyone other than Bernie must have their motives questioned and be discredited.

nkotb wrote:why try to boost her?

Not that I'm a Kerry fan ….but it's important to state this again
“Senator John Kerry, the eventual Democrat nominee in 2004, was also polling in the single digits at this point in the race.”

You're projecting again.  I can completely understand why someone would support Warren or Biden…I just feel there's a better candidate and like to talk about why I feel that way.

And I'm not discrediting anyone that supports Klobuchar or questioning their motives.  The media seems to really want it to happen and I have to assume I'm missing something…I don't see any daylight policy-wise to differentiate her from Biden, and polling/money raised seems to indicate one has support and the other doesn't.  I'd like to understand it.

Back to the endorsement, though.  I can't see that how that helps anyone but Klobuchar and Bernie tbph.  It might drive folks supporting Biden or Warren to her in enough numbers to drive their support down, but I can't see it doing that in enough numbers to counter Bernie's latest surging.  And given of the left/progressive skepticism of Warren already, lumping her in with Klobuchar probably reinforces that to some folks.

hutch wrote:
Well obviously anybody supporting anyone other than Bernie must have their motives questioned and be discredited.

Sure, but how did that turn out?  ;D

Lev wrote:

nkotb wrote:why try to boost her?

Not that I'm a Kerry fan ….but it's important to state this again
“Senator John Kerry, the eventual Democrat nominee in 2004, was also polling in the single digits at this point in the race.”

nkotb wrote:
Sure, but how did that turn out?  ;D

Lev wrote:

nkotb wrote:why try to boost her?

Not that I'm a Kerry fan ….but it's important to state this again
“Senator John Kerry, the eventual Democrat nominee in 2004, was also polling in the single digits at this point in the race.”

I was more for Clark or Dean…always thought Kerry was not going be enough to beat a post 9-11 bush

Nice to see…
Is bloomberg there, you just can't see him?
tulsi made it too

Even Deval showed up…can't find Mike

how come Tom Styer brought his wife but no one else brought a partner?

I don't think there has been a time in my life where I've been like "I love my state government"
but man…the VA dems are just tickling me pink this January

The VA Senate just passed SB 111 to allow no-excuse absentee voting.

Hmmm, this seems divisive!

Clinton says 'nobody likes' Sanders and won't commit to backing him if he's the Democratic nominee

vansmack wrote:
Anyone who is not 100% behind the nomination over Trump is "Those guys!"

nkotb wrote:
Hmmm, this seems divisive!

Clinton says 'nobody likes' Sanders and won't commit to backing him if he's the Democratic nominee

vansmack wrote:
Anyone who is not 100% behind the nomination over Trump is "Those guys!"

I wanted to cringe when I saw this headline Hillary Clinton on Bernie Sanders: "Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him"
IMO is she shouldn't be saying this kind of stuff, only support or shut it.  We need unity, not division.

but I will end with this…it is true
he has very little support within the Democratic establishment.
he can wear it as a badge of honor…to his detriment
He too needs to build bridges and compromise with his own team if he want the nomination of the party

Nobody likes YOU, Hillary. You're projecting more than Regal Cinemas. Just like Trump does.

Depends on how you define "nobody likes"…we either take the word of an establishment that is PAINFULLY unpopular, or we take the word of voters:

* He has about 1.6 million individual donations this quarter alone and is nearing a goal of five million total contributions.

* 76% favorablility vs. 17% unfavorability

* Largest rally of primary to date

If we're talking about winning elections, I know which side I'd choose. 

That said…that's not really the point, is it?  I thought we were supposed to be a united front here?  I thought this kind of rhetoric was solely the domain of Bernie Bros, who are the only ones responsible for Trump?  I'm just floored here!!!!

nkotb wrote: I thought this kind of rhetoric was solely the domain of Bernie Bros, who are the only ones responsible for Trump?

took a while, but we finally got NKOTB to admit it
Well done boys, our work is done here

also

nkotb wrote:
* Largest rally of primary to date

You know this number is mostly due to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez being there…in NYC no less

;D ;D ;D ;D

an wrote:

nkotb wrote: I thought this kind of rhetoric was solely the domain of Bernie Bros, who are the only ones responsible for Trump?

took a while, but we finally got NKOTB to admit it
Well done boys, our work is done here

As divisive as this?


https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/21/politics/bernie-sanders-apologizes-joe-biden-corruption-oped/index.html

LOL  you mean Bernie apologizing for something a surrogate said and stressing that he doesn't think Biden is corrupt?  Seems like that's a drive toward unity!

hutch wrote:
As divisive as this?


https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/21/politics/bernie-sanders-apologizes-joe-biden-corruption-oped/index.html

Also, Zephyr is 100% correct and Trump will eat Biden alive for this stuff with Hunter.  I personally don't give a shit…the world works on nepotism and while I'd rather support someone that bucks this trend, it's dumb to pretend it doesn't exist.  But it's Hillary's emails all over again…a completely stupid controversy that will is 100% avoidable and will 100% be weaponized in the general.  Seems like we shouldn't repeat history IMO!

nkotb wrote:But it's Hillary's emails all over again…a completely stupid controversy that will is 100% avoidable and will 100% be weaponized in the general.  Seems like we shouldn't repeat history IMO!

So you don't think who ever gets the nom won't have some weaponized illegitimate attack plastered all over social media…then regurgitated by the regular media….only to a few hours/days be debunked..but most people not paying attention…will miss and think this is a fact

So when the (deep fake) footage of Bernie visiting Stalin's grave and kissing the tomb gets out there, how will that be different

Of course its silly to think they won't throw everything at the nominee.  But just like the emails, we know about it now.  Why set things up for failure again?  It's obviously not valid for anyone with a brain, but Trump ran and won on being anti-establishment & draining the swamp.  His true believers are going to continue to believe that (again, despite the reality we live in!), and Biden & Hunter represent that 100%.  And the media loves to play the both sides cared, so they certainly won't help.  Seems like an own goal pushing him to be the nominee but what do I know?

an wrote:

nkotb wrote:But it's Hillary's emails all over again…a completely stupid controversy that will is 100% avoidable and will 100% be weaponized in the general.  Seems like we shouldn't repeat history IMO!

So you don't think who ever gets the nom won't have some weaponized illegitimate attack plastered all over social media…then regurgitated by the regular media….only to a few hours/days be debunked..but most people not paying attention…will miss and think this is a fact

So when the (deep fake) footage of Bernie visiting Stalin's grave and kissing the tomb gets out there, how will that be different

Side-pettifogging wrote:

nkotb wrote:
* Largest rally of primary to date

You know this number is mostly due to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez being there…in NYC no less

obviously if it works…keep doing it
Sanders’ campaign was the first to reschedule events, announcing on Tuesday that progressive firebrand U.S. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, known as AOC, would replace him at two rallies in the crucial early nominating state of Iowa while he serves as a juror during the Republican president’s trial in the Senate.

Also she is now being the bulldog on attacking Biden…not surprising, but I'm not really sure it's going to help…but only start more in-fighting

but he's got Don's support
@realDonaldTrump
They are taking the nomination away from Bernie for a second time. Rigged!



And I'm still really miffed by Hillary and her comments, I'm not a bernie-bro…but that shit was lame and not helping

in related news: Tulsi Gabbard sues Clinton for defamation over "Russian asset" comment