The 2020 thread....

Of course…and Mitch will still be there either as majority leader or minority leader

We need to start thinking about what we are actually going to do..the first two years are the time to get things done…

For example we cannot continue to have FOX News operate the way it does…it is literally killing people..this is not an exaggeration

Side-vivre wrote:

Just learned that McGrath doesn't even have a lock on the dem nomination for that seat
as Booker just got an endorsement from Sanders, AOC and others
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a32815217/kentucky-senate-democrats-amy-mcgrath-charles-booker/

Julian, wrote:Correct - McGrath is far from a lock.

Dang McGrath seems to be falling apart  (even with a 30-40 million campaign chest)

Looks like it's going to be McGrath v Mitch as the results are being finalized

Voting…we are likely to see a complete breakdown on November 3 with the biggest shit show we have ever seen…some are saying it might take days to know results in some states



Something must be done January 2021if Biden wins

hutch wrote:
Of course…and Mitch will still be there either as majority leader or minority leader

I can't believe there is no dirt clinging to the crypt-keepers fingernails
I have got to imagine there is an ethics scandal that if he loses power in the senate we can take him out i.e. Tom DeLay

I know, I share what I'm smoking

hutch wrote:
Voting…we are likely to see a complete breakdown on November 3

this is my fear and the States are really not taking the responsibility here
There really could not be a more important issue.
It's not a fed thing and we really don't need the Fed to act here
Every state runs its elections.  So can we at least get the blue states (and swing states) on board at a minimum this summer

Side-vivre wrote:

Side-vivre wrote:

Just learned that McGrath doesn't even have a lock on the dem nomination for that seat
as Booker just got an endorsement from Sanders, AOC and others
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a32815217/kentucky-senate-democrats-amy-mcgrath-charles-booker/

Julian, wrote:Correct - McGrath is far from a lock.

Dang McGrath seems to be falling apart  (even with a 30-40 million campaign chest)

Looks like it's going to be McGrath v Mitch as the results are being finalized

sounds like they are calling it
Amy McGrath wins the #KYSen primary, after an unexpectedly close call against progressive challenger Charles Booker

Shame for Booker to get that close and lose.  Although I'm sure he'll have a good shot at Mayor of Louisville now'

The voters in KY seem to not care…this is telling
She’s raised over $40 million since entering the race… 96 percent of her donations are from out-of-state donors

I wish Booker had won because McGrath makes it more likely out of state money will continue to funnel into KYSEN and every cent Dems spend on that is money they have literally set on fire instead of going after winnable causes like ejecting Susan Collins into the sun.

Julian, wrote:
instead of going after winnable causes like ejecting Susan Collins into the sun.

This is quite possibly cheaper than winning a senate race currently.
Do we think we can peer pressure Elon to do this?

Does money to defeat Mitch really transfer to Susan Collins?


Maybe some but not that much…not grassroots $…big donor $ or DSC $ yes..


Also I think McGrath will be a stiffer challenge to Mitch which means he might have to spend $ in his own race instead of on Collins….

at the end of the day if we can’t defeat Collins without tons of $ we ain’t winning anything

is it me or is the GOP senate totally acknowledging that they are going to get their asses kicked in NOV?

I really don't think boo-hoo'ing about the filibuster is going to get McSally, Gardner, Collins, Tillis (maybe Ernst and perdue) a bump to win re-election

So I find it odd they are doing it at all…kinda a bad look

I don’t see it like that…they are laying the groundwork for the huge political cost democrats will pay if they win control and eliminate filibuster


Democrats will be accused of being dictatorship

Also these specific senators are saying to their constituents “Don’t abandon me or you will get a liberal dictatorship”


It’s a way of helping their chances..more than whining

The filibuster has a real long history..it’s a big deal if it’s eliminated

hutch wrote:
The filibuster has a real long history..it’s a big deal if it’s eliminated

I do agree …but in the last few decades the use has stopped congress from working at all
I'm for getting rid of it now because of the massive obstruction it has caused

Also, I really don't see it becoming a huge political cost democrats will pay at all
It's all about messaging tho…and the Dems suck at it
Thank god for Project Lincoln

Well you are kind of being Captain Obvious and hopping from point to point



You and I may want democrats to eliminate filibuster if they win control of Senate but Americans in the middle not so much and the right wingers will go rabid

We have no choice..we must do it but reality is our odds of winning WH are far greater than winning control of Senate

Also, you trust every democratic Senator to vote to eliminate filibuster? Even Manchin??

You are getting way ahead of yourself for someone that claims not to want to buy into polls


All I am saying is Biden will win..am not yet predicting democrats win Senate..much less 52+ seats

hutch wrote:

You are getting way ahead of yourself for someone that claims not to want to buy into polls

who said that…I love polls
some of best friends are Polls
I always wanted to be a Poll-Vaulter
I love Bees because they pollinate

hutch wrote:
I don’t see it like that…they are laying the groundwork for the huge political cost democrats will pay if they win control and eliminate filibuster
The filibuster has a real long history..it’s a big deal if it’s eliminated

There is NO chance the Dems will eliminate the filibuster.  There aren't 25 votes to get rid of it in the caucus.  Way too scared of what happens when Mitch and company regains the Senate to do it. 

Really!


I think they should or welcome to Obama 2009

hutch wrote:
Really!


I think they should or welcome to Obama 2009

I think they should get rid of it too, but the votes aren't there, not even close. Bernie doesn't support eliminating it.  I'd be surprised if there are 10 votes for it in the Dem Caucus (I was being conservative with 25). 

Well Biden has to talk to them and be like “Guys it’s us against fascists and if we don’t do this they won’t let us do anything and in four years we will have either Trump back or Trump Jr”


I saw this very thing play out in Argentina..

124!!!

This doesn’t seem at first glance to support some of what our esteemed boardies have been saying here as gospel

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/poll-white-people-most-excited-about-kamala-harris-for-vp-and-most-likely-to-find-elizabeth-warren-unacceptable/ar-BB16fPZG?li=BBnbfcL