The 2020 thread....

trump took FL by only 100k votes..out of 9.5mil cast (bernie wasn't on that ballot)
while I don't think Felons are a reliable voting block…I still think it was a close call
plus half the people who voted for him have died or will die by 2020

now I don't think they should advertise or make a big deal about the felon vote as I agree it's bad form
but it's a reality that 1mil eligible, mostly like dem leaning voters… are now eligible in a state that was close

I'm sorry but 100k dif on 9.5 million votes is pretty close in my opinion
Florida and Ohio are incredibly expensive states to campaign in and if I were the democrats I would be tempted to cede them

The map is a strong argument for Biden as Scranton Joe would have a leg up on other democrats in PA and PA is critical
You know Florida sidehatch….short of the three southeastern counties it’s Trump country…be realistic and stop relying on felons…
hutch wrote:
You know Florida sidehatch….short of the three southeastern counties it’s Trump country…

Can't argue that…
Defamatory wrote:
hey, felons are people too
if they have done their time, isn't that enough?

I wouldn't say that the dems are reliying on them, but how can it not have an impact on a state that has razor thin margins every election for the last few decades
Trust me the GOP was trying to kill that bill with all their might as they know it might tip the results

Flordia impact on our presidential election is insane….and isn't that ironic as Floridians are kind of insane too (check out: Florida Man (@_FloridaMan). Real-life stories of the world's worst superhero)


Republicans in state are doing everything they can to stop the ballot initiative from being implemented.  Hard to say how many new voters will actually get added, so it's hard to say how many new votes this will actually be.
If you don’t want to constrain the map take your FL and OH resources and play hard in Arizona…They probably will give FL a half hearted effort to make Trump spend some money and time there but it will all depend on their internal polls…at first look though I agree with the Crystal Ball that FL and OH are gone


Obviously Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania are the key….


Unless it’s a Trump wave in which case nothing will matter

gavroche wrote:


Republicans in state are doing everything they can to stop them from getting the vote.  Hard to say how many new voters will actually get added.

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Exactly
gavroche wrote:
Defamatory wrote:
hey, felons are people too
Republicans in state are doing everything they can to stop the ballot initiative from being implemented. 

my point exactly, they wouldn't be trying so hard if they though it would have no impact
Ok put your money where your mouth is


I bet you $50 Trump carries Florida and Ohio regardless of felons voting
hutch wrote:
Ok put your money where your mouth is


I bet you $50 Trump carries Florida and Ohio regardless of felons voting


If Sherrod Brown were the nominee, would he carry Ohio?
No
All indications are both Beto and Biden will run….it’s going to be a full house!
hmm…I'm done taking bets on politics
I bet my MAGA brother-in-law $100 on Hil to win, then the day before we doubled the bet…
Had to sign one of the $100s to say that I love trump
Defamatory wrote:
Had to sign one of the $100s to say that I love trump
No you didn't. No one put a gun to your head.
Julian, wrote:
Defamatory wrote:
Had to sign one of the $100s to say that I love trump
No you didn't. No one put a gun to your head.

MAGA=Gun owner
it was a part of the bet…he would have had to say he loved Hilliary, which I was looking forward too
I blame Michigan!
Defamatory wrote:
Julian, wrote:
Defamatory wrote:
Had to sign one of the $100s to say that I love trump
No you didn't. No one put a gun to your head.

MAGA=Gun owner
it was a part of the bet…he would have had to say he loved Hilliary, which I was looking forward too
I blame Michigan!
You could’ve squelched on the bet like a rat. You CHOSE not to.
Defamatory wrote:
hmm…I'm done taking bets on politics
I bet my MAGA brother-in-law $100 on Hil to win, then the day before we doubled the bet…
Had to sign one of the $100s to say that I love trump



Wow…that is a serious offense
hutch wrote:
Defamatory wrote:
hmm…I'm done taking bets on politics
I bet my MAGA brother-in-law $100 on Hil to win, then the day before we doubled the bet…
Had to sign one of the $100s to say that I love trump



Wow…that is a serious offense

Luckily he doesn't do social media…otherwise I'm sure that would be posted many times in the run up to 2020
I am so blessed nobody in my family can stand him..,,
Glad to see that I'm not the only one who regretably married into a MAGA family.