The 2020 thread....

gavroche wrote:
I cannot stand Kamala, but I'm breathing a sigh of relief that it isn't Rice. I just cannot take that much Benghazi

It’s not so much that I can’t stand her, but she ran an awful campaign.  Went from contender to has-been overnight. That doesn’t inspire confidence.

exhausted, wrote:
If this wasn't obvious before….Kanye West met with Jared Kushner last weekend in CO,

Would be interesting if Jared gets caught up in the Election fraud kanye has committed with the false sigs

I wish that turd would just drop his album for his fans and just shut the fuck up for a couple more years. He pulls this shit every time he's promoting something.

She ran a fine campaign…but once Biden entered her time was up…its that simple…

People say she ran an awful campaign but rarely cite an example of anything she did that was terrible…if she had done something terrible she wouldn’t have been picked as VP…I can’t think of one serious misstep or grave error…

People always only look at the end result! So Trump ran a great campaign in 2016? It was a shitshow

Fucker Carlson is such an asshole…oh I am not sorry I mispronounced his name…

hutch wrote:
She ran a fine campaign…but once Biden entered her time was up…its that simple…

People say she ran an awful campaign but rarely cite an example of anything she did that was terrible…if she had done something terrible she wouldn’t have been picked as VP…I can’t think of one serious misstep or grave error…

People always only look at the end result! So Trump ran a great campaign in 2016? It was a shitshow

You can be a good VP pick and a bad campaigner: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/29/us/politics/kamala-harris-2020.html

Who cares?


Move forward


I can look at any dem candidate except maybe Pete and say they ran a terrible campaign

Obviously Sanders ran the worst followed by Warren


Who cares? It’s the past

hutch wrote:
Who cares?


Move forward


I can look at any dem candidate except maybe Pete and say they ran a terrible campaign

Obviously Sanders ran the worst followed by Warren


Who cares? It’s the past

I'm not saying she's a bad pick, only giving you the criticisms that people made of her campaigning. 

Great


Anyways the first few days are the honeymoon period…everybody loved the Palin pick the first few days

hutch wrote:
I can look at any dem candidate except maybe Pete and say they ran a terrible campaign

I think Yang did a pretty good job making it to the final 5~

hutch wrote:

People always only look at the end result! So Trump ran a great campaign in 2016? It was a shitshow

I feel we have debated this a hundred times and you traditionally take the “well, the point of the campaign is to win. If you lost, you couldn’t have run that great of a campaign” angle.

Who are all these Bus tweets for?
Do you think MAGA's care about money for Busses? 
Is this his way to get the poor/minority voter?

Julian, wrote:

hutch wrote:

People always only look at the end result! So Trump ran a great campaign in 2016? It was a shitshow

I feel we have debated this a hundred times and you traditionally take the “well, the point of the campaign is to win. If you lost, you couldn’t have run that great of a campaign” angle.

No way! We have debated this a million times and I always take the “Hillary ran a great campaign but can’t help it the American people are morons/Trump ran a shit campaign and won” angle

hutch wrote:

Julian, wrote:

hutch wrote:

People always only look at the end result! So Trump ran a great campaign in 2016? It was a shitshow

I feel we have debated this a hundred times and you traditionally take the “well, the point of the campaign is to win. If you lost, you couldn’t have run that great of a campaign” angle.

No way! We have debated this a million times and I always take the “Hillary ran a great campaign but can’t help it the American people are morons/Trump ran a shit campaign and won” angle

Well, since GGW isn’t with us any longer, I have some searching to do tomorrow when I’m in front of a computer but know I am doing that Larry David look you in the eye thing until then.

Oh shit

exhausted, wrote:
Who are all these Bus tweets for?
Do you think MAGA's care about money for Busses? 
Is this his way to get the poor/minority voter?

more buses = trump doesn't haven't to go as far to find one he can throw those around him under.

sweetcell wrote:

exhausted, wrote:
Who are all these Bus tweets for?
Do you think MAGA's care about money for Busses? 
Is this his way to get the poor/minority voter?

more buses = trump doesn't haven't to go as far to find one he can throw those around him under.

*golf clap*

Julian, wrote:
*golf clap*

honestly, i expected you to take me to task for my gawd awful sentence structure.  that shit was barely comprehensible.

So many people depend on the post office that I have to wonder if openly destroying it is a good campaign strategy?


Anybody that goes regularly to a post office branch will see many people shipping small numbers of packages…These are eBay, Amazon, etsy, discogs etc sellers…people either a part of gig economy or supplementing their full time job income… Republicans, Democrats, independents…does openly threatening the livelihood of these people - who depend on the USPS - make sense as a campaign strategy? What about people that buy online and now have to wait longer to get their purchases because Trump is trying to destroy the USPS? Are they going to be happy?

The USPS is a backbone of a sector of the economy…openly destroying it during a recession will only increase the economic pain for everyone..

Seems shortsighted to me..

Republicans don’t vote by mail? Haven’t been voting by mail for decades? This whole thing just makes Trump look desperate… and like a loser

I think this is going to blow up in Trump’s face

well unless faux news covers the USPS issues, then the problem doesn't exist amirite

gavroche wrote:
You can be a good VP pick and a bad campaigner: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/29/us/politics/kamala-harris-2020.html

Missed out on the banter yesterday and was about to post the same article.  Her fall from grace seemed a bit longer and faster than that of her rivals to me.

Anyhoo, I agree with Hutch in that it's time to focus on the here-and-now. Getting Trump out of office is all I care about.