hutch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
May 15, 2019 at 09:27 PM UTC
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I really don’t get the point of targeting Fox watchers
First of all it’s rather weak and pathetic…target them in the presidential debates or anywhere else…Fox is the enemy period…the sooner we get that the better
Give the Obama coalition something to vote for and yes that does mean black people
Had Hillary been able to turn them out she would have won
Having said this I think Trump is a shoo in for a second term unless the economy slows by mid next year and I am betting it won’t
hutch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
May 15, 2019 at 09:30 PM UTC
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The China move sealed it for Trump
Sidehatch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
May 15, 2019 at 09:38 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
The China move sealed it for Trump
I think the china move may be a short term disaster on the economy…but I only play an economist on the internet…
hutch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
May 15, 2019 at 09:44 PM UTC
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I doubt it….
But regardless surely you see how he has given his base every single thing he promised?
He is the first modern US President to actually take on China on trade.
Why would someone who voted for Trump in 2016 not vote for him in 2020?
Think about it
nkotb
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Re: The 2020 thread....
May 15, 2019 at 11:00 PM UTC
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I dont disagree…so get people to vote that don't.
hutch wrote:
I doubt it….
But regardless surely you see how he has given his base every single thing he promised?
He is the first modern US President to actually take on China on trade.
Why would someone who voted for Trump in 2016 not vote for him in 2020?
Think about it
sweetcell
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Re: The 2020 thread....
May 16, 2019 at 12:13 AM UTC
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the more the merrier!!!
New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio to announce 2020 presidential run New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio will enter the 2020 Democratic presidential primary on Thursday morning, a senior Iowa Democrat with knowledge of the plans confirmed to CNN.
De Blasio's Thursday entrance into the race, which was first reported by NBC News, will bring the total number of candidates to 23 with nearly nine months before the first votes are cast.
new rule: if any more Dems announce their candidacy, they have to play "
yakety sax" while climbing out of a clown car.
jrpa
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Re: The 2020 thread....
May 16, 2019 at 12:21 AM UTC
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Double B!! Of the Non-#ForTheFuture
wing of the party, this is checkmate, bitchastards.
Space Freely
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Re: The 2020 thread....
May 16, 2019 at 01:06 AM UTC
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hutch wrote:
The China move sealed it for Trump
Where is China moving to?
New Quinnipiac Poll in Pennsylvania:
https://poll.qu.edu/pennsylvania/release-detail?ReleaseID=2620 Biden 53%
Trump 42%
Sanders 50%
Trump 43%
Warren 47%
Trump 44%
Buttigieg 45%
Trump 44%
Harris 45%
Trump 45%
Trump 46%
O'Rourke 44%
hutch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
May 16, 2019 at 01:27 AM UTC
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Polls are a joke
As far as getting new people to vote you ain’t going to do it goingbon Fox
grateful
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Re: The 2020 thread....
May 16, 2019 at 01:31 AM UTC
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hutch wrote:
Polls are a joke
Pollish jokes are generally considered racist.
Sidehatch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
May 16, 2019 at 01:21 PM UTC
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^good one. As a Polish-American, I appreciate someone having our back ;)
I'm concerned that the MAGA is exhuming the body of Archie Bunker…and he was the king of the polish jokes (related….the Polish ambassador was just assaulted Israel…although the Pols are trying to whitewash their involvement in the Holocaust…so I'm not backing the current administration by any means)
one last thing on going on Fox. Dems have always had a messaging problem and if they don't go on Fox, they allow Fox to set the message. I don't think they will net that many voters (but honestly we didn't really need that many), but they can stave off the insanity that fox drums up by putting words in the mouths of the dems and not allowing them to defend things that fox will continually accuse them of.
If you want to be the President of ALL America, you have to go where the people are, not avoid them
Also, going on fox is hard and they are going to get a coordinated attack on everything they stand for and if they come out without totally embarrassing themselves, they will be stronger candidates.
I agree that 95% of the people who voted for trump, will do the same…but if we can reach that 5%…that's the election.
I have to say, this new immigration policy is actually something I can get behind
yes it doesn't address some of the other issues (the 11mil who are here now, Dreamers, the border)
but you have to start somewhere…So far on first glance, I agree with this
Yikes
What shocks me a little is SMiller was involved and was for sure thinking it was going to be more radical (as I'm sure the base wants)
Space Freely
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Re: The 2020 thread....
May 16, 2019 at 02:23 PM UTC
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I asked my wife what she though about Warren not going on Fox and she said "She should do it. Bernie did it."
Doesn't Warren run the risk of being HRC 2.0 by snubbing "the deplorables?"
Sidehatch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
May 16, 2019 at 02:48 PM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
new rule: if any more Dems announce their candidacy, they have to play "yakety sax" while climbing out of a clown car.
yes that is the proper name of that song…but I think we can all agree that it's the 'Benny Hill Theme song' and give the show/man some props to making this song a part of the cannon of modern music ;)
really is a great background song for any type of mayhem
the wiki on this is a great read
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakety_Saxhit #35 on the UK rock charts in 63!…prior to Benny hill
Sidehatch
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Re: The 2020 thread....
May 16, 2019 at 04:30 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
Huh? We are at the primaries not general stage…
So you make a good point on this
but I kinda feel like we also need to act a little like we are in the general and not drive so hard to sell to our base, but appeal to those on the outside edge of the base that might consider selecting D in nov 2020
(because everyone is paying attention to the dems even if they are not planning on voting for them)
I think there are a lot of people who have been voting republican against their own interest and just sucked in by the culture war
Maybe if we try to rise above the culture war (HA!) and part of this election should be to gently show them that we are looking out for them
nkotb
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Re: The 2020 thread....
May 16, 2019 at 04:33 PM UTC
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I couldn't recall if she said this during the primary or general election, so while I was looking up the date, I realized I had completely forgotten that Tim Kaine was her VP lol
hutch wrote:
Space wrote:
I asked my wife what she though about Warren not going on Fox and she said "She should do it. Bernie did it."
Doesn't Warren run the risk of being HRC 2.0 by snubbing "the deplorables?"
Huh? We are at the primaries not general stage…
nkotb
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Re: The 2020 thread....
May 16, 2019 at 04:46 PM UTC
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwaiyjh1dGkhutch wrote:
Do-over wrote:
hutch wrote:
Huh? We are at the primaries not general stage…
So you make a good point on this
but I kinda feel like we also need to act a little like we are in the general and not drive so hard to sell to our base, but appeal to those on the outside edge of the base that might consider selecting D in nov 2020
(because everyone is paying attention to the dems even if they are not planning on voting for them)
I think there are a lot of people who have been voting republican against their own interest and just sucked in by the culture war
Maybe if we try to rise above the culture war (HA!) and part of this election should be to gently show them that we are looking out for them
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_WUyZXhLHMk
nkotb
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Re: The 2020 thread....
May 17, 2019 at 05:22 PM UTC
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jrpa
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Re: The 2020 thread....
May 18, 2019 at 03:09 PM UTC
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“Biden Dirty” needs to become a thing. I don’t know what that thing is — a never-Biden cry by the progressive wing, an urban get-out-The-vote campaign by Biden’s team, something else entire — but someone needs to grab this an run with it.