The 2020 thread....

Julian, wrote:
Y’all do understand making a day a federal holiday in no way makes the majority of “poor” people have it off, right?

Uh wouldn’t it be like mlk where it just expands?

sweetcell wrote:
yeah, they'd go insane.  because after years of snipping a little voters' rights here, a little bit there… it would all be undone, and then some, in one swoop.

I know… a simple concept too
this ARE the droids we were looking for!

Julian, wrote:
Y’all do understand making a day a federal holiday in no way makes the majority of “poor” people have it off, right?

I wholeheartly agree, but corporations like wallmart and starbuck will want to do the civic duty (PR) and a lot more "poor" people will easily be able to vote


We've really gotta message this one simple and really drive it into the ground
there is no good argument for not having easy access to voting
but we have to OWN the narative
Hell I'd give trump $10 bill for the wall if he passed some legendary voting reform
he could actually do it and it might be something his base (i.e. not his handelers) would like

Other than the ACA this is the first Act dems have done in a while that seems memorable
this is a winner….we should wait on all the big shit until we figure out how to un rig this system


edit…they've already got a name for it
Democracy Day is the tentative name of a possible federal holiday

Cory throws his hat in the ring

Now that is big news

I do like Cory…
he's got charisma that so many of the other candidates lack

Tulsi seems to be circling in the toilette bowl

They are ALL running…..so far

孤独死 wrote:
Cory throws his hat in the ring

Won't be nominated.

Space wrote:

孤独死 wrote:
Cory throws his hat in the ring

Won't be nominated.

please explain?

sweetcell wrote:

eh, i'm not sure of that.  there is a solid segement of the voting population - around a third of the electorate - that will indeed support trump no matter what he does (including shooting someone on 5th ave).  but between that third and the 50'ish% that he needs to get elected again - that's the segment that is vulnerable. (reminder: trump won 2016 with 46.1%, so if 1/3 is correct then he needs to muster another ~13%).

It's about 40% in the states that matter that are a solid base for Trump, given his consistent polling there.  It's much less arduous a task than you are giving credit.   

孤独死 wrote:
it's all about timing, say Hil went up against Mitt or McCain…I think she would have won

I think you grossly underestimate how much voters from both parties disliked Hillary Clinton.

Only a couple of years before the election Hillary was the most popular politician in America…sure, after she was taken down by Republicans on Benghazi and the EMAILS and Bernie she was extremely unpopular

So you are correct…she was unpopular but she beat Trump by 3 million votes…

As far as Trump chances if the economy averages 250k job growth a month for the next 20 months and wages continue to grow I have to think he will be re-elected no matter how ridiculous and objectionable people may find him….

孤独死 wrote:

Space wrote:

孤独死 wrote:
Cory throws his hat in the ring

Won't be nominated.

please explain?

What is there to explain? He won't be the pick.

Ugh…maybe like WHY do you think Cory Booker won’t be the pick?!?!

hutch wrote:
As far as Trump chances if the economy averages 250k job growth a month for the next 20 months and wages continue to grow I have to think he will be re-elected no matter how ridiculous and objectionable people may find him….

I don't think this will be sustainable…the wheels are starting to come off on this stuff
the shutdown and trade wars could spell disaster for 2019

but I have a feeling we'll be going to war with Venezuela or Mexico by then
so all cards are off the table when predicting the future with trump

I do hope kush or princess trump or DTII get indicted…
my feeling is he doesn't care about any of his close business partners (price of doing business with a crook)
…but if they touch his kids, I think he'll go apeshhit and things will go a little bonkers


This is good news for the dems….
2020 electorate will be least white, most diverse ever
Young voters and immigrants are set to boost Hispanic and Asian share of the voting population in the next presidential contest.

The horror



Geez imagine Trump using this against her in the general….he will eat her alive

it's sad that her chances at 2020 will be brought down by this
she's toast…
this is an argument that starting the 2020 primaries 2 years ahead is a bad idea

IsAnOption wrote:
it's sad that her chances at 2020 will be brought down by this
she's toast…
this is an argument that starting the 2020 primaries 2 years ahead is a bad idea

Not sad. The sooner she's gone the better. Hillary 2.0 in terms of personality. No way blue collar white men or women from swing states vote for her.

TBH …I think she was better running mate material, not anymore

IsAnOption wrote:
TBH …I think she was better running mate material, not anymore

Whose ticket would she add anything to as a running mate? She wouldn't help with the swing state voters like Klobuchar or Brown. She wouldn't help with turning out the minority vote like Harris, Booker, or Castro. She might help turning out a few senior women with men's haircuts, pun maybe slightly intended but please don't take it as homophobia. That's about it.

Since she's from Massachusetts and thus easily replaced by anyone liberal with a pulse, she'd be useful as a Secretary of Something.