The 2020 thread....

sweetcell wrote:

Sïdehätch wrote:
be nice to see a state other than Iowa, Kansas, NH or SC dominate the first few primaries.  Those states represent such a skewed profile of the USA it's kind of absurd

don't states like Iowa and NH have "we must be first" in their state constitutions?  so if another state moves before them, they'll just move theirs accordingly to remain first… i could be wrong tho.

even more absurd…
I think there are 1 or 2 ways to do it.
Everyone does primary on the same day…
Or we do it by Time Zone, where there are 4 primaries…that way they could at least campaign regionally for that few weeks leading up to that primary

The system we have now is kinda nuts, my gripes with the Electoral College are well know…but this primary system is probably worse

I also think we should have Ranked choice voting in the primaries
there is good evidence that if the GOP had Ranked choice, Trump would have be comical reference to the 2016 campaign

so i searched around and couldn't find it, but previously we discussed the possibility of "tapes" of Booty-Judge popping up and ruining his chances… well, some tapes have surfaced - but they aren't what you'd expect:

Secret tapes linger over Buttigieg's meteoric rise

i don't fully understand this story… sounds like he's peripheral and this won't actually touch him?

it's been long time coming, but it's finally here: a contribution to this thread from the other side.

Bill Weld officially announces he is challenging Trump for GOP nomination in 2020

sweetcell wrote:
so i searched around and couldn't find it, but previously we discussed the possibility of "tapes" of Booty-Judge popping up and ruining his chances… well, some tapes have surfaced - but they aren't what you'd expect:

Secret tapes linger over Buttigieg's meteoric rise

i don't fully understand this story… sounds like he's peripheral and this won't actually touch him?

So peripheral that i couldn't follow it. But it's Spring Break and I've had a few more than 8 ounces.

sweetcell wrote:
it's been long time coming, but it's finally here: a contribution to this thread from the other side.

Bill Weld officially announces he is challenging Trump for GOP nomination in 2020

I'll register as a Republican and try to primary Trump if you guys will.

Space wrote:

sweetcell wrote:
so i searched around and couldn't find it, but previously we discussed the possibility of "tapes" of Booty-Judge popping up and ruining his chances… well, some tapes have surfaced - but they aren't what you'd expect:

Secret tapes linger over Buttigieg's meteoric rise

i don't fully understand this story… sounds like he's peripheral and this won't actually touch him?

So peripheral that i couldn't follow it. But it's Spring Break and I've had a few more than 8 ounces.

I am, about to start the story and I am already pissed, before I begin.  when, I go to read a fucking article, don't fucking include a stupid video.  if I want a video, i'll go to youtube. 

sweetcell wrote:
it's been long time coming, but it's finally here: a contribution to this thread from the other side.

Bill Weld officially announces he is challenging Trump for GOP nomination in 2020

Hate to discourage participation on this board as it's been getting dismal at times…
but, this was mentioned a few weeks back
and you of all people I thought would have noticed a post with a sexy mash tun with wood sides

Sïdehätch wrote:
I had a dream of beato putting a half-pipe in the rose garden

and Hickenlooper might put one of these in the lincoln bedroom

and Bill Weld is going to try to take trump out in the primaries…bold, but up hill with 80% approval by republicans

Space wrote:

sweetcell wrote:
it's been long time coming, but it's finally here: a contribution to this thread from the other side.

Bill Weld officially announces he is challenging Trump for GOP nomination in 2020

I'll register as a Republican and try to primary Trump if you guys will.

maybe …but I'm not signing any freaking form for the GOP
Virginia voters in GOP primary must sign statement saying they're Republican
Virginia voters do not register by party, and voting in primaries is open to anyone. However, state law allows a political party to request that voters sign a pledge or statement of party affiliation before casting primary ballots.

ok…funny foot note in an article about his 10 years of taxes
Sanders last year made $110 in music royalties, presumably for his 1987 folk album, "We Shall Overcome"
Hutch, do you have that on Vinyl? (actually, you probably would have burned it if you did)

Sïdehätch wrote:
ok…funny foot note in an article about his 10 years of taxes
Sanders last year made $110 in music royalties, presumably for his 1987 folk album, "We Shall Overcome"
Hutch, do you have that on Vinyl? (actually, you probably would have burned it if you did)

I have a cd…..

It’s also out on tape

No LP yet…maybe a future RSD edition out on commie red vinyl?

Sïdehätch wrote:

Hate to discourage participation on this board as it's been getting dismal at times…
but, this was mentioned a few weeks back
and you of all people I thought would have noticed a post with a sexy mash tun with wood sides

Sïdehätch wrote:
I had a dream of beato putting a half-pipe in the rose garden

and Hickenlooper might put one of these in the lincoln bedroom

and Bill Weld is going to try to take trump out in the primaries…bold, but up hill with 80% approval by republicans

yesterday bill weld made it official.  there is a difference between saying you're going to do something, and actually throwing your hat in the ring.  besides, the sexiness of that MT ensured that few people made it past the image and down to your BW statement/conjecture.

Sïdehätch wrote:
However, state law allows a political party to request that voters sign a pledge or statement of party affiliation before casting primary ballots.

"request", not "force". 

sweetcell wrote:
yesterday bill weld made it official.  there is a difference between saying you're going to do something, and actually throwing your hat in the ring.  besides, the sexiness of that MT ensured that few people made it past the image and down to your BW statement/conjecture.

I stand corrected…I thought it was official on feb 15th…but it was official that an exploratory committee would be started….4/15 it was officially announced he was running

SC is already trying to make it so there will be no GOP primary
GOP is a fall in line kind of team and they are not going to put up with internal insurgency
Even if he appeals to GOP voters, the internal org is going to try to make it as difficult as possible

yeah the curves on that bad boy and the shining stainless steel do distract…almost pornographic in it's presentation

Julian, wrote:
If ever we needed Julian For The Future, it’s now.

dude….Julian, your fundraising sucks balls…look at these others are crushing you and you have the name recognition
only bottom tier person you are doing better that is Marianne Williamson…and she's not that far behind you

I mean if you can't even keep a cool mill in your slush fund, might be time to drop out now

2. Sen. Bernie Sanders
    Cash on hand: $15,661,950
3. Sen. Kamala Harris
    Cash on hand: $8,958,124
4. Beto O'Rourke
    Cash on hand: $6,862,205
5. Pete Buttigieg
    Cash on hand: $6,405,929
6. Sen. Elizabeth Warren
    Cash on hand: $11,215,190
7. Sen. Amy Klobuchar
    Cash on hand: $6,982,373
8. Sen. Cory Booker
    Cash on hand: $6,131,010
9. Kirsten Gillibrand
    Cash on hand: $10,168,502
10. Gov. Jay Inslee
    Cash on hand: $1,412,880
11. Former Gov. John Hickenlooper
    Cash on hand: $1,335,168
12. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard
    Cash on hand: $2,789,225
13. Andrew Yang
    Cash on hand: $1,151,701
14. Marianne Williamson
    Cash on hand: $549,503
15. Julián Castro
    Cash on hand: $677,654
16. Former Rep. John Delaney
    Cash on hand: $10,567,864

I hate focusing on fundraising


Who cares?

Hillary raised way more than Trump


Howard Dean outraised everyone as did Bernie Sanders


It’s just a game political consultants and political media people play to profit and the joke is on you

hutch wrote:
I hate focusing on fundraising
Who cares?

I agree…was more of a dig on Jules than anything substantive
but the numbers did surprise me for some of them

Its not Julian For The Now, its Julian For The Future. Wait and see his bank account in 2 years.

I agree he has the best name recognition in the race.

hutch wrote:
I hate focusing on fundraising

Who cares?

Hillary raised way more than Trump

Howard Dean outraised everyone as did Bernie Sanders

It’s just a game political consultants and political media people play to profit and the joke is on you

in this country, money is speech.  "vote with your dollars". 

fundraising is used as a proxy for polling.

I am glad I donated a fair amount to Hillary during the presidential campaign and canvassed for her but the reality is my $ went to some political consultant’s bank account and I could have done a better job advising her..

I can sleep at night knowing I tried my hardest to help Hillary win

They WANT to convince you donating to campaigns matters so you donate…but it’s a racket

money isn't every thing…both Hil and Jeb can tell you from direct experience
but it's pretty much one of the most important things, without it….you are Julian for the Future

also when people donate, they put skin in the game and they they are also motivated to get others involved to get return on their investment.  I gotta imagine it motivated you a little more than before you gave

I truly wish we could take money out of politics, this citizens united and super pac crap is really a much bigger problem than grifting  money from some schmuck from Arlington that donated less than one comma for an election

but then again, what the F do I know…I post about politics on a regional music board