Just Announced Commentary - 2011 Edition

I also see ticket prices increasing nationwide at rates far outstripping inflation not to mention income

It definitely sucks….the squeeze is on for the middle class

I think in this area a household income of 200k means middle class..

hutch wrote:
I also see ticket prices increasing nationwide at rates far outstripping inflation not to mention income

It definitely sucks….the squeeze is on for the middle class

I think in this area a household income of 200k means middle class..

Median household income 2015, DC Metro $93,294


Median household income 2015, Entire US 55,775

https://www.washingtonian.com/2016/09/21/the-dc-area-has-the-highest-median-income-in-the-us-again/

Space wrote:

hutch wrote:
I also see ticket prices increasing nationwide at rates far outstripping inflation not to mention income

It definitely sucks….the squeeze is on for the middle class

I think in this area a household income of 200k means middle class..

Median household income 2015, DC Metro $93,294


Median household income 2015, Entire US 55,775

https://www.washingtonian.com/2016/09/21/the-dc-area-has-the-highest-median-income-in-the-us-again/

I definitely go to less shows than I would like (and used to) because of rising ticket prices.  Not just music, but theater and other stuff as well.  C'est la vie, but I feel it.

gavroche wrote:

Space wrote:

hutch wrote:
I also see ticket prices increasing nationwide at rates far outstripping inflation not to mention income

It definitely sucks….the squeeze is on for the middle class

I think in this area a household income of 200k means middle class..

Median household income 2015, DC Metro $93,294


Median household income 2015, Entire US 55,775

https://www.washingtonian.com/2016/09/21/the-dc-area-has-the-highest-median-income-in-the-us-again/

I definitely go to less shows than I would like (and used to) because of rising ticket prices.  Not just music, but theater and other stuff as well.  C'est la vie, but I feel it.

I guess my thing is that I just love the intimate feel of a small venue. For me, the 9:30 Club is about as large a place I can imagine there being that intimacy, and that's only when I'm near the front. In theory, I'm willing to sacrifice that intimacy somewhat if it's one of a very few favorite bands…but if I'm going to a venue that holds five time (or more) the number of people than an intimate venue does…I don't want to be paying two or more times the price of the average ticket of the intimate venue…what's the point? I can stay at home and listen to the band for free and not have to deal with the hassles of going to a concert.

Space wrote:

gavroche wrote:

Space wrote:

hutch wrote:
I also see ticket prices increasing nationwide at rates far outstripping inflation not to mention income

It definitely sucks….the squeeze is on for the middle class

I think in this area a household income of 200k means middle class..

Median household income 2015, DC Metro $93,294


Median household income 2015, Entire US 55,775

https://www.washingtonian.com/2016/09/21/the-dc-area-has-the-highest-median-income-in-the-us-again/

I definitely go to less shows than I would like (and used to) because of rising ticket prices.  Not just music, but theater and other stuff as well.  C'est la vie, but I feel it.

I guess my thing is that I just love the intimate feel of a small venue. For me, the 9:30 Club is about as large a place I can imagine there being that intimacy, and that's only when I'm near the front. In theory, I'm willing to sacrifice that intimacy somewhat if it's one of a very few favorite bands…but if I'm going to a venue that holds five time (or more) the number of people than an intimate venue does…I don't want to be paying two or more times the price of the average ticket of the intimate venue…what's the point? I can stay at home and listen to the band for free and not have to deal with the hassles of going to a concert.

I think there are bands that can play well in the Anthem.  Foo Fighters were able to pull it off.  I'm sure that Nick Cave will be great as well.  In general though, it is much harder to do.

My sense is that like most things in this country, the concert scene is becoming more stratified.  People either play big venues like Anthem and charge top dollar or cannot draw much of a crowd at all. Fewer bands are in the middle.

There are still tons of shows going on at the Black Cat, 9:30, DC9, SongByrd, etc…  and their prices haven't gone up that much.  I just don't know the artists and I am unwilling to dedicate the time or the energy to finding new music in the same way. 

The sad reality, at least for me, is that as I've gotten older my tastes are probably more mainstream and that means that I have to pay more for concerts.

I remember when the Pouges came through with Shane and it was $85 and I was floored
but felt it was a once in a lifetime kinda show, so I paid that
but I've purchased a half dozen that were that price or more in the last 12 months

but if I look at the last years tickets I've bought for IMP events…avg price is in the $65 range
(black cat/DC/RnR are still in the $20s)

Look at the 2012-2015 tickeyfly purchases…avg $35

pretty much doubled my avg show cost in just a few years

Do you guys think your years of defending your stealing bands music with the clever excuse that “bands make all their money off touring” might have been a self-fulfilling prophecy punishment?

Julian, wrote:
Do you guys think your years of defending your stealing bands music with the clever excuse that “bands make all their money off touring” might have been a self-fulfilling prophecy punishment?

I thought the same thing except that music revenues and profits have returned to their peak.

Julian, wrote:
Do you guys think your years of defending your stealing bands music with the clever excuse that “bands make all their money off touring” might have been a self-fulfilling prophecy punishment?

Not to defend that position, because I think we should value music enough to pay for it.

Still, I think this is only a small part of it. But only in as much as giving tax reductions to corporations trickles down to workers - ie just a little bit. 

There is that kind of demand so they charge what they can get.  I don't think selling a couple more records would change that.

Julian, wrote:

Yada wrote:

hutch wrote:
Incubus
8-12
FSS

natural Julian show right there.

I was moderately intrigued when they announced the Richmond date this morning but then I realized tickets were $76 and not, I dunno, like 1/3rd as much, and I LOLed for four minutes straight.

does anyone have a status report on Brandon Boyd's abs?

Yada wrote:
This news may be worthy of a thread creation dedicated to the woes, financial impact, etc. of Space's life. Julian?

I nominate the name: "Space Freely's Get Off My Lawn Thread"

vansmack wrote:

Yada wrote:
This news may be worthy of a thread creation dedicated to the woes, financial impact, etc. of Space's life. Julian?

I nominate the name: "Space Freely's Get Off My Lawn Thread"

Ok, I have one that would theoretically go in that thread.

Normally when I go to dinner and a show with my wife, I commute home for an hour, pick up my daughter, greet the babysitter, and drive back into the city, park the car, and walk to meet her. That typically takes about two hours total. She just walks or rides Metro from her downtown office and meets me at the venue.

Today, our roles were reversed. She stayed home with our sick kid (because she was the one who had a work laptop handy at home while I did not), who was sick enough to miss school, but well enough to have a babysitter tonight. Hence, she will have the one hour (not two hour, since she's already home) commute/parking/walking. And I will have a 35 min walk.

However, she argued that I should come home on the train and drive into the city with her because it is the "thoughtful, togetherness thing to do, and I generally work harder than you." Hence, I don't catch a break and am stuck with the two hour commute. I say we'll have 5+ hours of togetherness at dinner and the show.

Am I being a douche in fighting her on this? Is she being a douche for arguing for what she's arguing for?

Also, yesterday was my birthday and I didn't ask for any physical gifts, the only thing I asked for was her to go to dinner and a show with me. So in essence this is my birthday present, in addition to the cupcakes and blow job (ok I guess those are physical but they're not costly). And for reasons that are too boring to explain, I also have an extended commute home already, tomorrow.

Space wrote:
"and I generally work harder than you."

How often do these me vs. you type statements get thrown around in your marriage, just out of curiosity?

Space wrote: because it is the "thoughtful, togetherness thing to do,

IMO…when something like this gets thrown out there, you're screwed

To be honest, I'd tell my partner to go to hell (maybe not those exact words) if those were her expectations.

I'd also tell her to take an Uber so she didn't have to deal with trains/etc. but I'm assuming that doesn't fall into the Space/blowjob/ratio/cost/oz. budget.

That is just nuts….she is crazy to think that

You should meet her at the restaurant…that is a no brainer to me but I have never walked a mile in your 👞

Oh and happy birthday!!! Not the big 5-0 but getting close?

Is the babysitter hot?

Yada wrote:
To be honest, I'd tell my partner to go to hell (maybe not those exact words) if those were her expectations.

I'd also tell her to take an Uber so she didn't have to deal with trains/etc. but I'm assuming that doesn't fall into the Space/blowjob/ratio/cost/oz. budget.

Not sure if you read it right, she's the one driving from home tonight.

And she has taken a taxi from work to meet me out before. I definitely know better than to say anything about what kind of transportation she takes.  ;)

hutch wrote:
Oh and happy birthday!!! Not the big 5-0 but getting close?

Thanks. 51. Time flies.