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Space Freely
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Re: random . . . randomness July 26, 2016 at 04:36 PM UTC #
sweetcell wrote:
Space wrote:
Woohoo! Yay for the religion of peace! There seems to be a "lone wolf" attacker every day now in Europe.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/attackers-slit-french-priests-throat-in-church-shot-dead-by-police/2016/07/26/618a9600-5315-11e6-b7de-dfe509430c39_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_france-622a-stream%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

i did a quick news search and came up with the following non-muslim incidents… you probably haven't heard of most of these.  perhaps we're a little quick to highlight the islam-related occurrences, disproportionately? 



where are all the right-wing apologists to make excuses for the inherent violence of christians?!?  what about asking fundamental questions about in inherent violence of christians (the bible promotes hate!!!) and putting these concerns front and center of each news cycle???


Are you saying those tragedies were all a result of someone being inspired by the Bible with the hope that they were increasing their rewards in heaven?
killsaly
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Re: random . . . randomness July 26, 2016 at 05:00 PM UTC #
DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
Saw Killsaly at the WWE PPV on Sunday. It was a great time.
We should get our seats together next time.  I am planning on hitting up Backlash in Richmond in September (the first Smackdown branded one)…
jrpa
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Re: random . . . randomness July 26, 2016 at 05:01 PM UTC #
Is that a PPV? I didn't think the PPVs ever got held here.
killsaly
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Re: random . . . randomness July 26, 2016 at 05:07 PM UTC #
Yes it is. 
DeathFromAbove1979
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Re: random . . . randomness July 26, 2016 at 05:21 PM UTC #
killsaly wrote:
DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
Saw Killsaly at the WWE PPV on Sunday. It was a great time.
We should get our seats together next time.  I am planning on hitting up Backlash in Richmond in September (the first Smackdown branded one)…

I think my bud I was with and I might be heading down for that one! Will def be in contact when her and I figure out what our plans are. I think she wants to hit Raw in Baltimore the next night, so we're trying to hash it out.
killsaly
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Re: random . . . randomness July 26, 2016 at 05:47 PM UTC #
I did not realize Raw was in Baltimore the next night… I will probably go to both.  ;D
hutch
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Re: random . . . randomness July 26, 2016 at 05:55 PM UTC #
Space wrote:
Do I seem giddy? I'd say I'm way more sad than giddy.

I think the first step to coming up with a solution is recognizing the problem correctly. Some people want to blame it entirely on gun availability. Others want to blame it entirely on mental illness. Others want to blame it entirely on religion. Others want to blame it all entirely on colonial history. Blah blah blah. When it's really often a combination of all of those.

Believing in a "God" that has no scientific provable reality is probably a sign of mental illness. Some are more mentally ill than others.

Since this mental illness probably is not going to disappear anytime soon, how do we treat it? I think the moderate religion people must do something to reel in the more ill. I'm not sure how this should be done, but it's not my job. It's not Trumps job, and it's not Hillary's job. It's the job of the moderate religious leaders. Actually, in the case of the Muslims, it's the job of the liberal reformers, as outside of the US the "moderate Muslims" are still pretty damn conservative.


yes you do seem giddy.. every time there is an attack or incident you come on here before the ink is even dry to gloat with a very "I told you so" tone.

this is the dumbest thing I have ever read… "It's not my job"??? WTF??? of course its your "JOB".. you live in the US and its your "job" to make the country you live in a decent place to live in.. presumably that is what you want to do.

what kind of lame assed citizen are you? If you're concerned about Americans who are muslim becoming radicalized or committing terrorist attacks of course its your job to do something about it..  and not simply bitch about the muslims..

your post is just so stupid dude… obviously we need to adopt policies to protect ourselves as much as possible from having terrorism in our country…. to say that "its the job of the muslims themselves" is completely deflecting any responsibility and divides us between muslims and non-muslims.. we're all in this together.. all Americans.

I have to say- with all due respect- that I don't think you have the intellectual capability to discuss this….anybody who would argue "hey its not my problem, let the muslims take care of it" is living in la la land.. its a very complex issue.. it involves immigration for example.. government has a HUGE role to play.. hence, Hillary or Trump will have a big role to play… to think the solution is simply to say "hey its the muslims so let the muslim community police itself"..wow.

and the whole lets split the difference the Muslims radicals are wrong and the Liberal apologists are wrong is also incredibly stupid… its the traditional bothsiderism…. reductionist and useless.


vansmack
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Re: random . . . randomness July 26, 2016 at 06:15 PM UTC #
Space wrote:
I think the first step to coming up with a solution is recognizing the problem correctly.


Exactly why the term Radical Islam is wrong.  I do enjoy your walking contradictions though.
beetsnotbeats
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Re: random . . . randomness July 26, 2016 at 06:22 PM UTC #
I go to The Birchmere for the food.
I read the 9:30 Club forums for solutions to our world's problems.
jrpa
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Re: random . . . randomness July 26, 2016 at 06:24 PM UTC #
ßèétſ wrote:
I go to The Birchmere for the food.
I read the 9:30 Club forums for solutions to our world's problems.

Where do you get your integers?
beetsnotbeats
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Re: random . . . randomness July 26, 2016 at 06:26 PM UTC #
Julian, wrote:
ßèétſ wrote:
I go to The Birchmere for the food.
I read the 9:30 Club forums for solutions to our world's problems.

Where do you get your integers?


I make 1's and 2's daily.
hutch
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Re: random . . . randomness July 26, 2016 at 06:40 PM UTC #
ßèétſ wrote:
I go to The Birchmere for the food.
I read the 9:30 Club forums for solutions to our world's problems.



oh..such clever repartee!!
jrpa
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Re: random . . . randomness July 26, 2016 at 06:41 PM UTC #
ßèétſ wrote:
Julian, wrote:
ßèétſ wrote:
I go to The Birchmere for the food.
I read the 9:30 Club forums for solutions to our world's problems.

Where do you get your integers?


I make 1's and 2's daily.
Dude, I perfectly set you up for a "BEN'S CHILI BOWL" reply. *disappointed*
Space Freely
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Re: random . . . randomness July 26, 2016 at 06:55 PM UTC #
El wrote:
Space wrote:
Do I seem giddy? I'd say I'm way more sad than giddy.

I think the first step to coming up with a solution is recognizing the problem correctly. Some people want to blame it entirely on gun availability. Others want to blame it entirely on mental illness. Others want to blame it entirely on religion. Others want to blame it all entirely on colonial history. Blah blah blah. When it's really often a combination of all of those.

Believing in a "God" that has no scientific provable reality is probably a sign of mental illness. Some are more mentally ill than others.

Since this mental illness probably is not going to disappear anytime soon, how do we treat it? I think the moderate religion people must do something to reel in the more ill. I'm not sure how this should be done, but it's not my job. It's not Trumps job, and it's not Hillary's job. It's the job of the moderate religious leaders. Actually, in the case of the Muslims, it's the job of the liberal reformers, as outside of the US the "moderate Muslims" are still pretty damn conservative.


yes you do seem giddy.. every time there is an attack or incident you come on here before the ink is even dry to gloat with a very "I told you so" tone.

this is the dumbest thing I have ever read… "It's not my job"??? WTF??? of course its your "JOB".. you live in the US and its your "job" to make the country you live in a decent place to live in.. presumably that is what you want to do.

what kind of lame assed citizen are you? If you're concerned about Americans who are muslim becoming radicalized or committing terrorist attacks of course its your job to do something about it..  and not simply bitch about the muslims..

your post is just so stupid dude… obviously we need to adopt policies to protect ourselves as much as possible from having terrorism in our country…. to say that "its the job of the muslims themselves" is completely deflecting any responsibility and divides us between muslims and non-muslims.. we're all in this together.. all Americans.

I have to say- with all due respect- that I don't think you have the intellectual capability to discuss this….anybody who would argue "hey its not my problem, let the muslims take care of it" is living in la la land.. its a very complex issue.. it involves immigration for example.. government has a HUGE role to play.. hence, Hillary or Trump will have a big role to play… to think the solution is simply to say "hey its the muslims so let the muslim community police itself"..wow.

and the whole lets split the difference the Muslims radicals are wrong and the Liberal apologists are wrong is also incredibly stupid… its the traditional bothsiderism…. reductionist and useless.





Is it also my job to reduce the rate of single parenthood in the African-American community?
Space Freely
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Re: random . . . randomness July 26, 2016 at 07:00 PM UTC #
Space wrote:
sweetcell wrote:
Space wrote:
Woohoo! Yay for the religion of peace! There seems to be a "lone wolf" attacker every day now in Europe.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/attackers-slit-french-priests-throat-in-church-shot-dead-by-police/2016/07/26/618a9600-5315-11e6-b7de-dfe509430c39_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_france-622a-stream%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

i did a quick news search and came up with the following non-muslim incidents… you probably haven't heard of most of these.  perhaps we're a little quick to highlight the islam-related occurrences, disproportionately? 



where are all the right-wing apologists to make excuses for the inherent violence of christians?!?  what about asking fundamental questions about in inherent violence of christians (the bible promotes hate!!!) and putting these concerns front and center of each news cycle???


Are you saying those tragedies were all a result of someone being inspired by the Bible with the hope that they were increasing their rewards in heaven?


I'm still trying to wrap my head around this one. Two devout followers of Islam walk into a Catholic church in France and slit the throat and/or behead the priest and you're equating that with a random shooting in Laurel?
hutch
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Re: random . . . randomness July 26, 2016 at 07:10 PM UTC #
Space wrote:
El wrote:
Space wrote:
Do I seem giddy? I'd say I'm way more sad than giddy.

I think the first step to coming up with a solution is recognizing the problem correctly. Some people want to blame it entirely on gun availability. Others want to blame it entirely on mental illness. Others want to blame it entirely on religion. Others want to blame it all entirely on colonial history. Blah blah blah. When it's really often a combination of all of those.

Believing in a "God" that has no scientific provable reality is probably a sign of mental illness. Some are more mentally ill than others.

Since this mental illness probably is not going to disappear anytime soon, how do we treat it? I think the moderate religion people must do something to reel in the more ill. I'm not sure how this should be done, but it's not my job. It's not Trumps job, and it's not Hillary's job. It's the job of the moderate religious leaders. Actually, in the case of the Muslims, it's the job of the liberal reformers, as outside of the US the "moderate Muslims" are still pretty damn conservative.


yes you do seem giddy.. every time there is an attack or incident you come on here before the ink is even dry to gloat with a very "I told you so" tone.

this is the dumbest thing I have ever read… "It's not my job"??? WTF??? of course its your "JOB".. you live in the US and its your "job" to make the country you live in a decent place to live in.. presumably that is what you want to do.

what kind of lame assed citizen are you? If you're concerned about Americans who are muslim becoming radicalized or committing terrorist attacks of course its your job to do something about it..  and not simply bitch about the muslims..

your post is just so stupid dude… obviously we need to adopt policies to protect ourselves as much as possible from having terrorism in our country…. to say that "its the job of the muslims themselves" is completely deflecting any responsibility and divides us between muslims and non-muslims.. we're all in this together.. all Americans.

I have to say- with all due respect- that I don't think you have the intellectual capability to discuss this….anybody who would argue "hey its not my problem, let the muslims take care of it" is living in la la land.. its a very complex issue.. it involves immigration for example.. government has a HUGE role to play.. hence, Hillary or Trump will have a big role to play… to think the solution is simply to say "hey its the muslims so let the muslim community police itself"..wow.

and the whole lets split the difference the Muslims radicals are wrong and the Liberal apologists are wrong is also incredibly stupid… its the traditional bothsiderism…. reductionist and useless.





Is it also my job to reduce the rate of single parenthood in the African-American community?



"Job" was in quotes.. obviously its not your job in the traditional sense of the word job..

Nice job ignoring everything I wrote to you in response…

You're a troll.. nothing more nothing less…


walk,on,by
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Re: random . . . randomness July 26, 2016 at 07:39 PM UTC #
dude . . . we are all trolls.  welcome, to the internet.
hutch
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Re: random . . . randomness July 26, 2016 at 08:33 PM UTC #
walk,on,by wrote:
dude . . . we are all trolls.  welcome, to the internet.


I know plenty of people on the internet who are not trolls.. just look at this board.. I don't recall Sweetcell ever trolling….
Space Freely
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Re: random . . . randomness July 26, 2016 at 08:55 PM UTC #
El wrote:
Space wrote:
El wrote:
Space wrote:
Do I seem giddy? I'd say I'm way more sad than giddy.

I think the first step to coming up with a solution is recognizing the problem correctly. Some people want to blame it entirely on gun availability. Others want to blame it entirely on mental illness. Others want to blame it entirely on religion. Others want to blame it all entirely on colonial history. Blah blah blah. When it's really often a combination of all of those.

Believing in a "God" that has no scientific provable reality is probably a sign of mental illness. Some are more mentally ill than others.

Since this mental illness probably is not going to disappear anytime soon, how do we treat it? I think the moderate religion people must do something to reel in the more ill. I'm not sure how this should be done, but it's not my job. It's not Trumps job, and it's not Hillary's job. It's the job of the moderate religious leaders. Actually, in the case of the Muslims, it's the job of the liberal reformers, as outside of the US the "moderate Muslims" are still pretty damn conservative.


yes you do seem giddy.. every time there is an attack or incident you come on here before the ink is even dry to gloat with a very "I told you so" tone.

this is the dumbest thing I have ever read… "It's not my job"??? WTF??? of course its your "JOB".. you live in the US and its your "job" to make the country you live in a decent place to live in.. presumably that is what you want to do.

what kind of lame assed citizen are you? If you're concerned about Americans who are muslim becoming radicalized or committing terrorist attacks of course its your job to do something about it..  and not simply bitch about the muslims..

your post is just so stupid dude… obviously we need to adopt policies to protect ourselves as much as possible from having terrorism in our country…. to say that "its the job of the muslims themselves" is completely deflecting any responsibility and divides us between muslims and non-muslims.. we're all in this together.. all Americans.

I have to say- with all due respect- that I don't think you have the intellectual capability to discuss this….anybody who would argue "hey its not my problem, let the muslims take care of it" is living in la la land.. its a very complex issue.. it involves immigration for example.. government has a HUGE role to play.. hence, Hillary or Trump will have a big role to play… to think the solution is simply to say "hey its the muslims so let the muslim community police itself"..wow.

and the whole lets split the difference the Muslims radicals are wrong and the Liberal apologists are wrong is also incredibly stupid… its the traditional bothsiderism…. reductionist and useless.





Is it also my job to reduce the rate of single parenthood in the African-American community?



"Job" was in quotes.. obviously its not your job in the traditional sense of the word job..

Nice job ignoring everything I wrote to you in response…

You're a troll.. nothing more nothing less…





I'm honestly stating my opinion, just like sweetcell. I'm not sure how that makes one of us a troll and one of us not.

I stand by my comment that it's mostly on the Muslim community to clean up their shit.

On a tangential note, it's also on the police community to clean up their shit. Are you going to say that it should be on the (mostly African-American) victims to clean up the issue of dirty racist cops?
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