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jrpa
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Re: random . . . randomness August 19, 2015 at 03:52 PM UTC #
Jaded, have you seen this: https://ironfatblog.wordpress.com/

It's a morbidly obese HAES enthusiast in her 40s who, to raise awareness of how healthy the obese are, is running an Ironman triathalon next year and a half-Ironman in October of this year. So far, her "training" updates have highlighted she is "getting used to" riding a bike and "swam in open water for the first time in her life." As someone who actually does endurance races, I thought you'd find her delusion hilarious.
jrpa
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Re: random . . . randomness August 19, 2015 at 03:56 PM UTC #
killsaly wrote:
I have a feeling negative comments were deleted from that blog…


Alternate blog pointing out how she's a giant liar who is scamming thousands of dollars in donations from fat people.

https://truthaboutragen.wordpress.com/
Sidehatch
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Re: random . . . randomness August 19, 2015 at 04:16 PM UTC #
Julian, wrote:
killsaly wrote:
I have a feeling negative comments were deleted from that blog…


Alternate blog pointing out how she's a giant liar who is scamming thousands of dollars in donations from fat people.

https://truthaboutragen.wordpress.com/


can't believe I'm reading this stuff….man there is some fathatin' going on

this comment made me crack up
But it cracks me up she claims to be running when she ?ran ? her marathon at 25 min/mile. The very definition of running is having both feet off the ground at the same time. It is pretty much impossible to run any slower than 10-12 min/mile I think, right?
jrpa
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Re: random . . . randomness August 19, 2015 at 04:27 PM UTC #
Sidehatch wrote:
man there is some fathatin' going on
I don't think it's fathatin' to point out that woman is clearly selling snake oil. She is not healthy. That she makes thousands of dollars flying to "Fat Acceptance" conferences to talk about how she's an "athlete" is absurd. That people are funding her Ironman trips on her assurance she will complete it is arguably fraud.
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Re: random . . . randomness August 19, 2015 at 04:34 PM UTC #
This almost sounds like an episode of House that I watched last night…
Sidehatch
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Re: random . . . randomness August 19, 2015 at 05:05 PM UTC #
Julian, wrote:
Sidehatch wrote:
man there is some fathatin' going on
I don't think it's fathatin' to point out that woman is clearly selling snake oil. She is not healthy. That she makes thousands of dollars flying to "Fat Acceptance" conferences to talk about how she's an "athlete" is absurd. That people are funding her Ironman trips on her assurance she will complete it is arguably fraud.


So one can be fat and be working towards being healthy
say you are 400lb, to do it the healthy way could take 5+ years

but in the end people are looking for ways to justify things they do to make them feel better.

It really is not easy to lose a lot of weight, especially if you are poor
but it can be done

jrpa
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Re: random . . . randomness August 19, 2015 at 05:11 PM UTC #
Sidehatch wrote:
Julian, wrote:
Sidehatch wrote:
man there is some fathatin' going on
I don't think it's fathatin' to point out that woman is clearly selling snake oil. She is not healthy. That she makes thousands of dollars flying to "Fat Acceptance" conferences to talk about how she's an "athlete" is absurd. That people are funding her Ironman trips on her assurance she will complete it is arguably fraud.


So one can be fat and be working towards being healthy
say you are 400lb, to do it the healthy way could take 5+ years

but in the end people are looking for ways to justify things they do to make them feel better.

It really is not easy to lose a lot of weight, especially if you are poor
but it can be done


Yes, exactly. She is also explicitly reminding people she is NOT trying to lose weight. Her whole point in doing this is to prove an obese person can run an Ironman triathlon every bit as well as a skinny person.
Space Freely
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Re: random . . . randomness August 19, 2015 at 05:12 PM UTC #
If it's acceptable to mock people with food addictions, is it also acceptable to mock people with other addictions…e.g. drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, religion?
Sidehatch
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Re: random . . . randomness August 19, 2015 at 05:33 PM UTC #
Space wrote:
If it's acceptable to mock people with food addictions, is it also acceptable to mock people with other addictions…e.g. drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, religion?



seems kosmo hasn't weighed in on this …hehe

I think cigarettes are on the table, but e-cigs NOWAYMAN
DeathFromAbove1979
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Re: random . . . randomness August 19, 2015 at 05:36 PM UTC #
Space wrote:
If it's acceptable to mock people with food addictions, is it also acceptable to mock people with other addictions…e.g. drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, religion?


yes
grateful
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Re: random . . . randomness August 19, 2015 at 05:37 PM UTC #
Sidehatch wrote:
Julian, wrote:
Sidehatch wrote:
man there is some fathatin' going on
I don't think it's fathatin' to point out that woman is clearly selling snake oil. She is not healthy. That she makes thousands of dollars flying to "Fat Acceptance" conferences to talk about how she's an "athlete" is absurd. That people are funding her Ironman trips on her assurance she will complete it is arguably fraud.


So one can be fat and be working towards being healthy
say you are 400lb, to do it the healthy way could take 5+ years

but in the end people are looking for ways to justify things they do to make them feel better.

It really is not easy to lose a lot of weight, especially if you are poor
but it can be done




Some researchers also emphasize that weight is not necessarily the most important measure of health. Metabolic health may be more important. Exercise improves metabolic health, and therefore there are health benefits to regular exercise even if it does not result in significant weight loss.

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/coca-cola-science/
walk,on,by
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Re: random . . . randomness August 19, 2015 at 07:17 PM UTC #
yes.
Sidehatch
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Re: random . . . randomness August 19, 2015 at 07:44 PM UTC #
Space wrote:
If it's acceptable to mock people with food addictions, is it also acceptable to mock people with other addictions…e.g. drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, religion?


RatBastard
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Re: random . . . randomness August 19, 2015 at 07:48 PM UTC #
Space wrote:
If it's acceptable to mock people with food addictions, is it also acceptable to mock people with other addictions…e.g. drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, religion?



Which form of the word addiction are you talking about, the one speaking about a (usually unhealthy) habit, or the disease?
Space Freely
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Re: random . . . randomness August 19, 2015 at 07:51 PM UTC #
jaded wrote:
Sidehatch wrote:
Julian, wrote:
Sidehatch wrote:
man there is some fathatin' going on
I don't think it's fathatin' to point out that woman is clearly selling snake oil. She is not healthy. That she makes thousands of dollars flying to "Fat Acceptance" conferences to talk about how she's an "athlete" is absurd. That people are funding her Ironman trips on her assurance she will complete it is arguably fraud.


So one can be fat and be working towards being healthy
say you are 400lb, to do it the healthy way could take 5+ years

but in the end people are looking for ways to justify things they do to make them feel better.

It really is not easy to lose a lot of weight, especially if you are poor
but it can be done




Some researchers also emphasize that weight is not necessarily the most important measure of health. Metabolic health may be more important. Exercise improves metabolic health, and therefore there are health benefits to regular exercise even if it does not result in significant weight loss.

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/coca-cola-science/


I know someone who was using this study as an excuse to not deal with weight issues for a long time, though it really didn't explain why she was feeling like shit every day. Then she got changed her diet (kept exercising moderately) and lost 16 pounds, and will likely lose 20+ more. And she'll tell you she feels a whole lot healthier. I'm sure her next doctor's visit will confirm better health stats

Space Freely
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Re: random . . . randomness August 19, 2015 at 07:52 PM UTC #
RatBastard wrote:
Space wrote:
If it's acceptable to mock people with food addictions, is it also acceptable to mock people with other addictions…e.g. drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, religion?



Which form of the word addiction are you talking about, the one speaking about a (usually unhealthy) habit, or the disease?



I'm unsure what you're talking about. Perhaps you could give an example of each form you are referring to?
RatBastard
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Re: random . . . randomness August 19, 2015 at 09:32 PM UTC #
Space wrote:
RatBastard wrote:
Space wrote:
If it's acceptable to mock people with food addictions, is it also acceptable to mock people with other addictions…e.g. drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, religion?



Which form of the word addiction are you talking about, the one speaking about a (usually unhealthy) habit, or the disease?




I'm unsure what you're talking about. Perhaps you could give an example of each form you are referring to?


It is pretty self explanatory.  But to give you one generic difference between the two, the former is caused by over use of some substance or indulgence, whereas the latter is not. The disease is a uncurable genetic defect that is manifested by over use.  IMHO one should not mock a person who has this disease any more than they should mock anyone with cancer or any other genetic abnormality.
Space Freely
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Re: random . . . randomness August 19, 2015 at 09:50 PM UTC #
RatBastard wrote:
Space wrote:
RatBastard wrote:
Space wrote:
If it's acceptable to mock people with food addictions, is it also acceptable to mock people with other addictions…e.g. drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, religion?



Which form of the word addiction are you talking about, the one speaking about a (usually unhealthy) habit, or the disease?




I'm unsure what you're talking about. Perhaps you could give an example of each form you are referring to?


It is pretty self explanatory.  But to give you one generic difference between the two, the former is caused by over use of some substance or indulgence, whereas the latter is not. The disease is a uncurable genetic defect that is manifested by over use.  IMHO one should not mock a person who has this disease any more than they should mock anyone with cancer or any other genetic abnormality.


Thanks for the explanation. For the record, I myself wasn't trying to make the case for mocking anybody, just asking if it was accepted board etiquette.
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