The Beer Thread

Yes, $4 local drafts. But I can't pass up the Sculpin and Victory at Sea they have on draft. And two is about all I can handle.

stevewizzle wrote:

James wrote:
Does it make me a beer geek that I work near Union Station and am going to the Nats game afterwork but am making a point of going to Smoke And Barrel (in Adams Morgan) for beer and dinner (half price on all vegan options) tonight?

perhaps. there deals are incredible - it's $4 local drafts too, right?

it's usually busy, but not crowded. and there draft list is always impressive. and there food is delicious.

it's probably my favorite bar these days.

atomicfront wrote:
Well PBR buying breweries to shut them down can't be thought of a good thing can it?  And replacing the beer that was made with the same awful tasting beer and selling it under the same name can't be good.   I am sure if PBR bought out your favorite brewery and then just sold PBR under that name you wouldn't be pleased.

i'm sorry, but what on earth are you talking about?

beyond moving from milkwaukee to LA after being bought out by some millionaire, i'm not sure i've ever heard of this.

stevewizzle wrote:

atomicfront wrote:
Well PBR buying breweries to shut them down can't be thought of a good thing can it?  And replacing the beer that was made with the same awful tasting beer and selling it under the same name can't be good.   I am sure if PBR bought out your favorite brewery and then just sold PBR under that name you wouldn't be pleased.

i'm sorry, but what on earth are you talking about?

beyond moving from milkwaukee to LA after being bought out by some millionaire, i'm not sure i've ever heard of this.

They didn't have a brewery in Milwaukee as they aren't a brewery. Pabst is a marketing company.  So it really doesn't matter where they are located.   


"B.R. Zoom, a marketing and advertising agency, played a key part in growing PBR. It helped manage a secret band of guerrilla marketers who were paid $35,000 to $50,000 a year to buy rounds of Pabst in places like Portland, Ore.; Seattle; Berkeley, Calif.; Brooklyn; and Chicago's Wicker Park neighborhood, where bike messengers, hipsters and artists had adopted the brand ? a phenomenon that grew out of Portland bars in the early 2000s.."

that's not what i was asking. what breweries did they shut down beyond their own? and what beer did they replace?

and gee, that sounds like a terrible marketing campaign. how dare them market their product. to think, they could have used all that money to buy a 1 second super bowl ad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f83AYIJiQUw

but fuck this. this is exactly what i complain about with you. you clog up good threads with stupidity.  for every one worthwhile post, you have 10 or 20 complete bullshit posts that aren't even worth reading.

stevewizzle wrote:
that's not what i was asking. what breweries did they shut down beyond their own? and what beer did they replace?

and gee, that sounds like a terrible marketing campaign. how dare them market their product. to think, they could have used all that money to buy a 1 second super bowl ad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f83AYIJiQUw

but fuck this. this is exactly what i complain about with you. you clog up good threads with stupidity.  for every one worthwhile post, you have 10 or 20 complete bullshit posts that aren't even worth reading.

You are complaining about me telling you a company buys up breweries and shuts them down and then doesn't produce beer but just markets swill produced by another company by them. I thought you would be interested to know how they marketed their beers  to hipsters.  They didn't go to bars and say they were PBR reps. they pretended to be local hipsters having a good time. 

This is about beer.  How is this bullshit?  You are complaining about the truth?  THe only stupid thing I read was when you said PBR was a better beer than Amstel Light.  Which is clearly ridiculous. 

If you want to know what beers PBR replaced just look at the brands they own.  Everyone they bought out and then shut the brewery down.  Is there a Nattie Boh factory in Baltimore? A schlitz brewery in Milwaukee.  A PBR brewery anywhere.  A Strohs Brewery in Detroit? An Olympia Brewery in Washington State?  A lone star in texas? etc. etc. etc.

Does anyone one know of any good craft lagers?

Miller High Life is the best light beer… and I.C. Light!

we are arguing about a shitty beer vs another shitty beer. who cares, they are all shitty, and they serve a place.

but i was simply asking to provide background about buying up breweries and shut them down. i can't find anything about that.  this article gave me the best history, and also revealed that PBR owns natty bo.  

seems like no shitty beer is safe to drink.

atomicfront wrote:
Does anyone one know of any good craft lagers?

bruery humulus. 

but expensive.

atomicfront wrote:
If you want to know what beers PBR replaced just look at the brands they own.  Everyone they bought out and then shut the brewery down.  Is there a Nattie Boh factory in Baltimore? A schlitz brewery in Milwaukee.  A PBR brewery anywhere.  A Strohs Brewery in Detroit? An Olympia Brewery in Washington State?  A lone star in texas? etc. etc. etc.

i now see what you're referring to.

Carlsberg? i.e. big Carlsberg?

stevewizzle wrote:
two wonderful beers i had at pizza p last night:
-carlsberg carnegie porter
-oxbox freestyle #30 - a sour saison that's worth going out of your way for.

brennser wrote:
Carlsberg? i.e. big Carlsberg?

stevewizzle wrote:
two wonderful beers i had at pizza p last night:
-carlsberg carnegie porter
-oxbox freestyle #30 - a sour saison that's worth going out of your way for.

yeah. big, evil carlsberg. on cask, too.

did your wedding include a llama?  mine did

we had two llama's actually

brennser wrote:

did your wedding include a llama?  mine did

we had two llama's actually

I didn't even know Llamas were options.

brennser wrote:

did your wedding include a llama?  mine did

we had two llama's actually

AH DUN BEEN TOLD.

Good article on the American craft beer scene as seen through the eyes of a Brit…

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21541887

given the conversation about beer styles and whatnot, i thought i'd share one of my favorite blog reads this past year.

Shut up about Barclay Perkins

the research, knowledge, and (IMO) unpretentious discourse of beer history in this blog is seriously something to appreciate. 

Sitting in a bar in nyc prior to my train, kbs is $35 a bottle, lolz!!!

While some people might say that all microbrewed American ipa's all taste alike, others might argue that all macrobrewed lagers taste alike.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PSRA7k_qEKA

I don't read this thread as I'm a wino and not a beer guy.  But my local Whole Foods has a bar that I like to frequent on Sunday Nights after I drink my way across my city and last night we were joined by some friends of ours who are beer people.

Our friend was talking to the bartender about some special beer that's going to be here on Wednesday and how he has to get here early because they're only going to have 20 boxes and they're never going to reach the shelves in the stores - the only way to get them is to be at the bar on Wednesday before a certain time.

So I asked, "why not just charge $100 a bottle then?"  and it was like blasphemy.  Why is beer so different?  If I want a bottle of Silver Oak, I'm prepared to drop some serious cash, but even the thought of the beer market doing this sent everyone into a tizzy.  Instead, you're all going to queue up like idiots for the chance at what is apparently an enjoyable beer instead of reserving yours by pricing out people, like every other good out there.  I don't get it.  Is the market for craft beers just not mature enough for that yet?