Space Freely
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Re: The Beer Thread
January 31, 2019 at 05:00 PM UTC
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StoneTheCrow wrote:
I'm astounded at how quickly music geeks turn their noses up at the bands they previously praised. All while chasing the latest and greatest.
I do think there are way too many bands now and not enough music fans to keep them all afloat.
Preach.
jrpa
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Re: The Beer Thread
January 31, 2019 at 05:14 PM UTC
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StoneTheCrow wrote:
I'm astounded at how quickly beer geeks turn their noses up at the beers they previously praised.
"This beer is great!"
(seconds later) "They took a partial investment from Busch? Its swill and I hope their children die of smallpox."
grateful
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Re: The Beer Thread
January 31, 2019 at 05:24 PM UTC
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Agreed.
So what is your "go-to" beer on a Tuesday night? Do you have a tried-and-true favorite that you'll come back to time and time again?
Yada
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Re: The Beer Thread
January 31, 2019 at 05:32 PM UTC
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excontradiction wrote:
Agreed.
So what is your "go-to" beer on a Tuesday night? Do you have a tried-and-true favorite that you'll come back to time and time again?
Miller High Life and Rolling Rock.
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Re: The Beer Thread
January 31, 2019 at 05:44 PM UTC
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I'll be the first to admit this is where I'm currently at in my beer journey. Basically tired of every single haaaaaaze can that tastes exactly the same… anything with lactose in it I find repulsive… Tired of kool-aid beers. At this point, I'm thirsty for a BA stout (maybe with a bit of pastry added) on a very limited occasion, a good gueze/wild, or a pilsner/lager.

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Re: The Beer Thread
January 31, 2019 at 05:53 PM UTC
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council made excellent beers. a real loss for the SD beer scene - in a town overrun with breweries, council was at the top. was.
my takeaways from the article:
- brewery owners put in ridiculous hours. owning a brewery is a sentence (going back to work the day you delivery a baby?!?)
- the #1 reason why breweries fail: expanding too fast/unsustainably = you're so stretched that you can't deal with any disruptions. when a brewery bets the farm on more production capacity, they are essentially betting that nothing will change - including their current growth rate. why bother expanding? why not just stay a small brewery? because brewing is a volume business. it takes as much time to brew one barrel of beer as it does to brew 50. so why not get a fat loan, upgrade the brew house and end the day with more beer to sell, so more profit? with their 3 barrel brew house, the owners couldn't pay themselves. it's damn tempting to put on some rose-colored glasses and tell yourself that a $5 or $10 million loan will be no problem to pay back, plus you can finally cover your rent…
- fuck trump and his tariffs.
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Re: The Beer Thread
January 31, 2019 at 06:02 PM UTC
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Space wrote:
Take KBS or the Goose Island limited edition stuff
Only 2 years ago, if you didn't show up early and wait in line somewhere, you likely weren't getting anything
now the this stuff is collecting dust at retailers (although those are good for aging, so not the worst problem)
Maybe Goose and Founders started making more BCBS adnd KBS to meet the demand and in some cases exceed it. They've both been purchased or partially purchased by big beer, so more resources for more production.
i think the biggest issue for KBS and BCBS is that they are charging 2012 prices in 2019. times have changed and they haven't - in fact, they've backslided. back in the day they were unique and could command a high price. the breweries kept ramping up the prices while their value decreased due to the rise of alternatives. they overshot the supply/demand curve. looking at all the options i have today, i would still happily buy a 4-pack of KBS for $14… but at $25, they'll be collecting dust. all the AB marketing in the world won't change that… how about using some of that corporate mega-buying power to lower prices?
Yada
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Re: The Beer Thread
January 31, 2019 at 06:23 PM UTC
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Not that it impacts my purchases as other than CBS last year, I haven't bought a founders beer in years, but did I miss they were purchased by InBev?
Last drama I saw with them was some employment issue around racists that they employee.
Space Freely
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Re: The Beer Thread
January 31, 2019 at 06:39 PM UTC
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Yada wrote:
Not that it impacts my purchases as other than CBS last year, I haven't bought a founders beer in years, but did I miss they were purchased by InBev?
Last drama I saw with them was some employment issue around racists that they employee.
How can they possibly be racist when they are minority owned? /s
That same month, Founders announced that Mahou-San Miguel had purchased a 30% minority stake in the business. This makes Founders no longer a craft brewery, by the Brewers Association definition, as it requires that craft breweries not be more than 25% owned by a macro-brewery.
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Re: The Beer Thread
January 31, 2019 at 09:47 PM UTC
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Space Freely
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Re: The Beer Thread
January 31, 2019 at 10:27 PM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
interesting: Rodenbach and Dogfish Head to Produce First Collaboration in Famed Belgian Brewery’s History
don't think i've ever had a DFH sour.
If this counts as a sour, I thought it was pretty decent for a mass market beer,
SeaQuench Ale is a session sour mash-up of a crisp Kolsch, a salty Gose, and a tart Berliner Weiss brewed in sequence with black limes, sour lime juice and sea salt to make this the most thirst-quenching beer Dogfish Head has ever brewed
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Re: The Beer Thread
February 07, 2019 at 05:42 PM UTC
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Glitter beer?!?
didn't realize this was a thing

sweetcell
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Re: The Beer Thread
February 07, 2019 at 06:21 PM UTC
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dude. glitter beer has been a thing (mostly a thing of ridicule) for about a year now.
you know when folks make fun of craft beer because of how ridiculous they claim it is? yeah, this is the type of shit they're talking about. stupid marketers…
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Re: The Beer Thread
February 07, 2019 at 06:48 PM UTC
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^^ Walkie is going to rain down a fury on you like you can not imagine, grrrrrl!
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Re: The Beer Thread
February 07, 2019 at 07:12 PM UTC
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If walkie was around….
Cue:
“Baby come back….” (Player)
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Re: The Beer Thread
February 07, 2019 at 09:41 PM UTC
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I, like to drink glitter beer, with my anus. That way, i can fart sparkle all over, your wet dreams.
Sidehatch
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Re: The Beer Thread
February 07, 2019 at 09:45 PM UTC
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^an image I've not seen, but can't unsee
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Re: The Beer Thread
February 08, 2019 at 04:15 PM UTC
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Sidehatch
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Re: The Beer Thread
February 11, 2019 at 07:07 PM UTC
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whilst reading about Amy K's chances for 2020 on 538…came across this thread related passage and never heard this in regards to politics
The idea is to draw a contrast — probably softly at first, and maybe more explicitly if the campaign grows more combative — between Klobuchar and more left-wing candidates from the coasts, particularly Harris, Warren, Sanders and perhaps Booker. In some ways, this will recall the old distinction between “beer-track” (“flyover-state” moderates) and “wine-track” (coastal liberals) Democrats. However, Klobuchar isn’t likely to have the beer track to herself; Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown could be playing in the same lane, and, more significantly, so could former Vice President Joe Biden. There’s also what you might call a “craft-beer track,” consistenting of candidates who are from the middle of the country but whose appeal might be stronger among college-educated voters, such as O’Rourke and (craft brewery founder!) John Hickenlooper, a former governor of Colorado.
So are the trump voter considered the 'Four-Loko-track'
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Re: The Beer Thread
February 11, 2019 at 07:21 PM UTC
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I read that too…it’s pretty moronic
I read somewhere that Klobuchar has passed the most bills…tons
Has Sanders passed one bill?