The Beer Thread

women, can be fags who drink faggy cider, as well.  so there, again.

atomicfront wrote:
A friend of mine at lunch told me that IPA's are dead.  They have peaked and they are now headed down and craft Cider is the new thing. 

and why do you believe your friend, any more than people on this board who a) live and breath beer, and b) are firm in their belief that IPAs are here to stay?  is he a brewer, bar owner, etc?  or are you quoting someone simply because you found another uninformed opinion that is the same as yours?

cider?  really?  i'd was interested in hearing your friend's argument, but the fact that he followed it up with the statement that cider is the next big thing completely invalidates his opinion in my eyes.  cider has been trying for years.  ain't gonna happen.

sweetcell wrote:

atomicfront wrote:
A friend of mine at lunch told me that IPA's are dead.  They have peaked and they are now headed down and craft Cider is the new thing. 

and why do you believe your friend, any more than people on this board who a) live and breath beer, and b) are firm in their belief that IPAs are here to stay?  is he a brewer, bar owner, etc?  or are you quoting someone simply because you found another uninformed opinion that is the same as yours?

cider?  really?  i'd was interested in hearing your friend's argument, but the fact that he followed it up with the statement that cider is the next big thing completely invalidates his opinion in my eyes.  cider has been trying for years.  ain't gonna happen.

Actually my wife just brought home some local craft cider the other day.  It was undrinkable.   How would the people on here be more informed than my friend.  I saw a lot of people drinking Strongbow cider last night at the bar I went to.  I think it is going to be the next big thing.  I should start brewing some.  Seems simple enough.  Get cider add yeast. 

And you guys probably thought grunge was here to stay. 

"Now it's come roaring back. U.S. hard cider sales are up 65 percent over last year, and just about all the big beer companies sell it, as well as many artisan brewers. Finding cider at your local bar is often no longer a problem.

Among the impressive assortment of beer taps at Two Brothers Tavern in Middlebury, Vt., for example, is one that is bright green and shaped like an apple. "Sales have probably doubled, tripled in the last two or three years," says Two Brothers bartender Andy Buxton. "It used to be nothing. But nowadays probably 30 percent of people who are coming in here are demanding cider, not just asking for it. Even our locals who are drinking Budweiser are starting to switch over to a little bit of cider."

Hmm you guys are probably going to have to travel up to Vermont for some Cider next. 

"Andrea Riberi, a beverage analyst for Nielsen, the market research firm, says it helps that cider appeals to both sexes. It's gluten free and seen as something new. "People who were born in the '80s and '90s ? which we call millennials ? they really want what's new, they're always looking for the next big thing," she says."

atomicfront wrote:
How would the people on here be more informed than my friend. 

i don't know - you haven't identified your friend and why he'd know more than (or even as much as) anyone else.

atomicfront wrote:
I should start brewing some.  Seems simple enough.  Get cider add yeast. 

you should!  it is indeed pretty easy, but different than beer brewing.  there is a whole deal of stopping fermentation at a the right time if you want to retain any residual sweetness (or using an unfermentable sugar like lactose).  you can add flavors to your cider by including things like cinnamon.  most folks age their cider like a wine - i've tasted home-brewed cider and they've always been a year old, or older.  i've never had a young cider but apparently they can be harsh.  they mellow out with time.

atomicfront wrote:
"Now it's come roaring back. U.S. hard cider sales are up 65 percent over last year, and just about all the big beer companies sell it, as well as many artisan brewers. Finding cider at your local bar is often no longer a problem.

published on November 08, 2012, 8 months ago - where is this huge wave of cider that is taking over the world?  i don't see any more cider available in bars now that i did a year ago. 

As long as we agree that cider is for girls, I'm fine with seeing sales increase.

sweetcell wrote:

atomicfront wrote:
How would the people on here be more informed than my friend. 

i don't know - you haven't identified your friend and why he'd know more than (or even as much as) anyone else.

atomicfront wrote:
I should start brewing some.  Seems simple enough.  Get cider add yeast. 

you should!  it is indeed pretty easy, but different than beer brewing.  there is a whole deal of stopping fermentation at a the right time if you want to retain any residual sweetness (or using an unfermentable sugar like lactose).  you can add flavors to your cider by including things like cinnamon.  most folks age their cider like a wine - i've tasted home-brewed cider and they've always been a year old, or older.  i've never had a young cider but apparently they can be harsh.  they mellow out with time.

atomicfront wrote:
"Now it's come roaring back. U.S. hard cider sales are up 65 percent over last year, and just about all the big beer companies sell it, as well as many artisan brewers. Finding cider at your local bar is often no longer a problem.

published on November 08, 2012, 8 months ago - where is this huge wave of cider that is taking over the world?  i don't see any more cider available in bars now that i did a year ago. 

So if stop fermentation you can't naturally carbonate.  Well apple season is a few months away.  I have my juicer ready.  

i just bought another crazy fuck load of founders double trouble, and hoptimum.  i guess that means, i like sierra nevada now, after thinking they were shit for some reason for years.  it was torpedo that began the turn. 

atomicfront wrote:
A friend of mine at lunch told me that IPA's are dead.  They have peaked and they are now headed down and craft Cider is the new thing. 

today in scumbag atomicfront…

talks about how his friend tells him IPA's are dead and cider is the new thing.

ignores all the articles out there saying IPAs are the most popular and fastest growing beer, cherry-picks quotes from an article about cider.

atomicfront wrote:
"Now it's come roaring back. U.S. hard cider sales are up 65 percent over last year, and just about all the big beer companies sell it, as well as many artisan brewers. Finding cider at your local bar is often no longer a problem.

Among the impressive assortment of beer taps at Two Brothers Tavern in Middlebury, Vt., for example, is one that is bright green and shaped like an apple. "Sales have probably doubled, tripled in the last two or three years," says Two Brothers bartender Andy Buxton. "It used to be nothing. But nowadays probably 30 percent of people who are coming in here are demanding cider, not just asking for it. Even our locals who are drinking Budweiser are starting to switch over to a little bit of cider." 

stevewizzle wrote:

atomicfront wrote:
A friend of mine at lunch told me that IPA's are dead.  They have peaked and they are now headed down and craft Cider is the new thing. 

today in scumbag atomicfront…

talks about how his friend tells him IPA's are dead and cider is the new thing.

ignores all the articles out there saying IPAs are the most popular and fastest growing beer, cherry-picks quotes from an article about cider.

atomicfront wrote:
"Now it's come roaring back. U.S. hard cider sales are up 65 percent over last year, and just about all the big beer companies sell it, as well as many artisan brewers. Finding cider at your local bar is often no longer a problem.

Among the impressive assortment of beer taps at Two Brothers Tavern in Middlebury, Vt., for example, is one that is bright
green and shaped like an apple. "Sales have probably doubled, tripled in the last two or three years," says Two Brothers bartender Andy Buxton. "It used to bebe nothing. But nowada




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s probably 30 percent of people who are coming in here are demanding cider, not just asking for it. Even our locals who are drinking Budweiser are starting to switch over to a little bit of cider." 

You are acting as much of a little birch as James.Ford now…do you have a desire to discuss beers or you are you going to post stupid  shit like this all the time? 

atomicfront wrote:
You are acting as much of a little birch as James.Ford now…

If you guys could ignore atomicfront and his idiotic cries for attention, you could actually have a real discussion about beer…

I had some 2.5 year old Breakfast Stout this weekend, it was pretty bad. I do not suggest aging that one, I don't know why I thought it would get better.

Totally agree about the Breakfast Stout. I've held onto it for as long as a year, and even then it's not that good (still think that fresh it's amazing).

fatskippy wrote:
If you guys could ignore atomicfront and his idiotic cries for attention, you could actually have a real discussion about beer…

I had some 2.5 year old Breakfast Stout this weekend, it was pretty bad. I do not suggest aging that one, I don't know why I thought it would get better.

fatskippy wrote:
If you guys could ignore atomicfront and his idiotic cries for attention, you could actually have a real discussion about beer…

I had some 2.5 year old Breakfast Stout this weekend, it was pretty bad. I do not suggest aging that one, I don't know why I thought it would get better.

Made that mistake too. Fresh/on draft is the way to go with that one.

Popped open a Heady last night. There's a reason why that beer is Number One. I'm already getting depressed that I only have three left.

fatskippy wrote:
If you guys could ignore atomicfront and his idiotic cries for attention, you could actually have a real discussion about beer just about anything…

One quick edit, but you're spot on.

had two at smoke and barrel tonight.

elysian space dust ipa
dc brau everday junglist

digged the space dust, didn't love the junglist.  friend had a stillwater stateside.  stillwater does saisons so well.

Anybody had Founders Rubaeus yet?

James wrote:
Anybody had Founders Rubaeus yet?

I picked up a 4 pack yesterday at Magruders - they had it (14.99) and DD (21.99) on the shelf. Have not opened it yet

speaking of founders . . . this sounds interesting.  my soon to be husband said, "wheres the chips, that sounds like salsa."  indeed.



this is from their facebook site, so i hope the picture comes through.  for some reason i think facebook pictures posted on facebook dont show up here.