Yada
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Re: The Beer Thread
December 11, 2015 at 02:07 PM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
Yada wrote:
What's even worse is that's a terrible beer,
a very large majority disagrees with you ;D
I don't care about Beer Advocate ratings.
sweetcell
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Re: The Beer Thread
December 11, 2015 at 02:18 PM UTC
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which is fine, and clearly you think that beer is awful, i'm just pointing out the fact that you're in a minority who thinks this.
carry on.
Sidehatch
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Re: The Beer Thread
December 11, 2015 at 02:30 PM UTC
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yeah, I don't think Double B is a terrible beer…I think it's quite good actually
Had this on tap the other day and loved it

although $9.50 before tip was a little steep for a 8 oz pour
Sidehatch
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Re: The Beer Thread
December 11, 2015 at 02:31 PM UTC
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Yada wrote:
sweetcell wrote:
Yada wrote:
What's even worse is that's a terrible beer,
a very large majority disagrees with you ;D
I don't care about Beer Advocate ratings.
Yada, beer-contrarian
Space Freely
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Re: The Beer Thread
December 11, 2015 at 02:40 PM UTC
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Yada wrote:
What's even worse is that's a terrible beer,.at least buy a good magnum.
Different suds for different buds.
It's probably my favorite Stone beer. And I'm a huge Stone/Greg Koch fanboy.
Yada
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Re: The Beer Thread
December 11, 2015 at 02:52 PM UTC
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I'm not much of a strong ale kinda guy.
I had an 8oz pour of Hardywood Gingerbread Stout last night and loved it, probably couldn't drink much more than 8oz though.
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Re: The Beer Thread
December 11, 2015 at 03:09 PM UTC
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Yada wrote:
I'm not much of a strong ale kinda guy.
I had an 8oz pour of Hardywood Gingerbread Stout last night and loved it, probably couldn't drink much more than 8oz though.
Is "strong ale" an actual beer type? I usually think of it as a catch-all for high abv beers that don't neatly fit into any one category.
I think of Double Bastard as a hoppy imperial amber/red ale, or even somewhat close to being an American barleywine, though that's just my opinion. Are you a fan of those style?
I recently choked down about six ounces of the Bourbon GBS, and I'm done with that beer and its variants. I really want to love my VA homeboys Hardywood, but it seems that every beer I drink by them is underwhelming.
Yada
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Re: The Beer Thread
December 11, 2015 at 03:22 PM UTC
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Space wrote:
Yada wrote:
I'm not much of a strong ale kinda guy.
I had an 8oz pour of Hardywood Gingerbread Stout last night and loved it, probably couldn't drink much more than 8oz though.
Is "strong ale" an actual beer type? I usually think of it as a catch-all for high abv beers that don't neatly fit into any one category.
I think of Double Bastard as a hoppy imperial amber/red ale, or even somewhat close to being an American barleywine, though that's just my opinion. Are you a fan of those style?
I recently choked down about six ounces of the Bourbon GBS, and I'm done with that beer and its variants. I really want to love my VA homeboys Hardywood, but it seems that every beer I drink by them is underwhelming.
According to the bible Beer Advocate, strong ale is indeed a beer type.
I'd probably drink a few ounces and enjoy it, but would never buy a bottle or god forbid a magnum. Terrible may have been too strong of an adjective.
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Re: The Beer Thread
December 11, 2015 at 03:25 PM UTC
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Yada wrote:
Space wrote:
Yada wrote:
I'm not much of a strong ale kinda guy.
I had an 8oz pour of Hardywood Gingerbread Stout last night and loved it, probably couldn't drink much more than 8oz though.
Is "strong ale" an actual beer type? I usually think of it as a catch-all for high abv beers that don't neatly fit into any one category.
I think of Double Bastard as a hoppy imperial amber/red ale, or even somewhat close to being an American barleywine, though that's just my opinion. Are you a fan of those style?
I recently choked down about six ounces of the Bourbon GBS, and I'm done with that beer and its variants. I really want to love my VA homeboys Hardywood, but it seems that every beer I drink by them is underwhelming.
According to the bible Beer Advocate, strong ale is indeed a beer type.
I'd probably drink a few ounces and enjoy it, but would never buy a bottle or god forbid a magnum. Terrible may have been too strong of an adjective.
What about in the Homebrew literature, is strong ale considered a beer type?
Per Beer Advocate:
American Strong Ale
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Description:
Catch all style category for beers from 7.0 percent alcohol by volume and above. Some may even be as high as 25% abv. Characteristics will greatly vary; some have similarities to Barley-wines and Old Ales. Barrel aging is certainly not out of the question.
sweetcell
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Re: The Beer Thread
December 11, 2015 at 03:33 PM UTC
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Space wrote:
What about in the Homebrew literature, is strong ale considered a beer type?
for homebrew competition, in the 2008 guidelines, Strong Ale is a category (Cat. 19) that includes old ale (19A), british barleywine (19B) and 'murkan barleywine (19C).
http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style19.php.
in the just-published 2015 guidelines, there is a new STRONG AMERICAN ALE category (Cat. 22) that includes American Strong Ale (22B) - see p.42 of
http://www.bjcp.org/docs/2015_Guidelines_Beer.pdfin both the 2008 and 2015 guidelines, there is also a Belgian Strong Ale category.
Sidehatch
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Re: The Beer Thread
December 11, 2015 at 04:34 PM UTC
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speaking of American strong ales…have any of you tried this

BA gave it a pretty poor showing
I was a little sticker shocked at the $10.99 for 1 12oz beer
but it is 17% ABV
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Re: The Beer Thread
December 11, 2015 at 04:39 PM UTC
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Sidehatch wrote:
speaking of American strong ales…have any of you tried this

BA gave it a pretty poor showing
I was a little sticker shocked at the $10.99 for 1 12oz beer
but it is 17% ABV
Walkonby mentioned purchasing it two pages ago. Maybe he has had it by now?
Why does every new Dogfish beer seem like a gimmick?
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Re: The Beer Thread
December 11, 2015 at 04:46 PM UTC
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walk,on,by wrote:now, I have access to the following drafts for my next growler:
dfh higher math
What's a 64oz cost…probably $40?
Sidehatch
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Re: The Beer Thread
December 16, 2015 at 04:31 PM UTC
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Adroit Theory Tap Takeover at sehkraft brewing
BLVCK Celebration Imperial Porter aged in Rum Barrels
BLVCK Celebration Imperial Porter aged in Oak Barrels
Bloody Roots Imperial Brown Ale aged in Bourbon Barrels
Devil?s Breath Belgian-Style Tripel aged in Mezcal Barrels
G/I/A/A Imperial IPA aged in Sauvignon Blanc Barrels
Lux Wheatwine aged in Anejo Tequila Barrels
The Devil Made Me Smoked Porter w/ Serrano Peppers aged in Mezcal Barrels
Triptych Tart Rambutan Saison aged in Opus One Red Wine Barrels
We Want Your Soul Golden Belgian-Style IPA
Bite the Hand that Feeds Imperial Gose ( Adroit Theory & Sehkraft Collaboration)
Man, would love to try everyone of these
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Re: The Beer Thread
December 16, 2015 at 05:27 PM UTC
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Sidehatch wrote:
Adroit Theory Tap Takeover at sehkraft brewing
BLVCK Celebration Imperial Porter aged in Rum Barrels
BLVCK Celebration Imperial Porter aged in Oak Barrels
Bloody Roots Imperial Brown Ale aged in Bourbon Barrels
Devil?s Breath Belgian-Style Tripel aged in Mezcal Barrels
G/I/A/A Imperial IPA aged in Sauvignon Blanc Barrels
Lux Wheatwine aged in Anejo Tequila Barrels
The Devil Made Me Smoked Porter w/ Serrano Peppers aged in Mezcal Barrels
Triptych Tart Rambutan Saison aged in Opus One Red Wine Barrels
We Want Your Soul Golden Belgian-Style IPA
Bite the Hand that Feeds Imperial Gose ( Adroit Theory & Sehkraft Collaboration)
Man, would love to try everyone of these
Knock yourself out. That looks like their taplist every weekend at the brewery.
I went there once, had about a half dozen samples. Quality ranged from terrible to mediocre. I'm in the "They should try to make some excellent versions of basic beer styles before they try the fancy weird stuff." category.
Sidehatch
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Re: The Beer Thread
December 16, 2015 at 05:37 PM UTC
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good to know…
the Gose sound interesting and I'm really loving the barrel aged porters lately
Did you try this G/I/A/A (God Is An American)Imperial IPA aged in Sauvignon Blanc Barrels
folks at BA seem to like it
Plus the possibility I make it out to Purcellville for some drinking is about .001%
so that it's in Arlington on tap is pretty enticing
sweetcell
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Re: The Beer Thread
December 16, 2015 at 06:10 PM UTC
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Space wrote:
"They should try to make some excellent versions of basic beer styles before they try the fancy weird stuff"
this is excellent advice for any brewery. putting shitty beer into a barrel, adding brett, etc. will almost never transform it into something great. it
might salvage it, but generally it will be a waste of a barrel, brett, etc.
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Re: The Beer Thread
December 16, 2015 at 07:53 PM UTC
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Sidehatch wrote:
good to know…
the Gose sound interesting and I'm really loving the barrel aged porters lately
Did you try this G/I/A/A (God Is An American)Imperial IPA aged in Sauvignon Blanc Barrels
folks at BA seem to like it
Plus the possibility I make it out to Purcellville for some drinking is about .001%
so that it's in Arlington on tap is pretty enticing
In all fairness, I will say that my wife had a higher opinion of their beers than I did. Though she did agree with the mastering the basics thought.
Her complaint was that there service was unfriendly and unresponsive. As someone who spent a number of years as a server, this is a big thing for her. For me, not so much. For you, I don't know. But you'd probably get better,friendlier service in Arlington, plus like you said, the drive.
I'd say it's a place worthy of a one-time stop if you happen to be out that way, but don't make a special trip to go there.
Yada
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Re: The Beer Thread
December 16, 2015 at 07:58 PM UTC
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The question is, who's been to Beltway Brewery and picked up any of the Grimm releases? They have some not-so-space-friendly-ounce-to-cost ratios from what I've seen, but I'm considering hiking out there some weekend when some fresh DIPAs are on the lines.
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Re: The Beer Thread
December 16, 2015 at 08:31 PM UTC
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Yada wrote:
Beltway Brewery
think it's a little lame to call yourself beltway brewery when you are in fact not inside the beltway, but 15 miles outside of it
but didn't realize they had a tasting room and is only .5 mile from mile 22 on the W&OD bike trail