The Beer Thread

Yada wrote:

Space wrote:

Yada wrote:

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StoneTheCrow wrote:

Space wrote:
Only 4 to 6 bucks a can of you take a four pack home and drink it safely there.

I did a pickup there and I must say it's the worst OH location of the three I've been to…. Finger Lakes being the clear winner ..

Worst but still nice? Worst and a complete dump?

Dumpy inconvenient part of town. Can't comment on the beer garden since I did curbside, though sidehutch gives it the thumbs up.

Almost like reviewing a concert you never attended.

Not at all. I love the Finger Lakes place because of the beautiful country drive getting there. I like the original Brooklyn place because it was within walking distance of a nice area where we had a nice airbnb. The DC place is in Ivy City, just off New York Avenue, in a shitty area.

I guess I misinterpreted your post, I didn't realize you were actually specifying location on a map. I thought you meant the over all description of the brewery/tap house. I for one can say it's MUCH better than the shithole Other Half location in BK without ever being at the one in DC.

There are two locations in Brooklyn, and they did a makeover of the original location that made it into a much nicer place, imo. Not saying it's better than DC on the inside, but I'd say the makeover made it nicer.

I actually have only been to the FLX location during COVID, so only sat outside, which is pleasant. My brother vouches that it's nice on the inside.

PSA for the session beer crowd - All Day summer seasonal upcoming:

All Day Vacay
You’re going to need a bigger suitcase – All Day Vacay has arrived. Take a well-earned respite from the mundane and let this session wheat ale whisk you away with its slight, summery sweetness – complimented by delicate notes of citrus. Whether it’s a staycay or vacay, it’s the perfect companion for any type of adventure. 4.6% ABV.

All Day Vacay will be available in 6 and 15-packs of 12oz cans and on draft nationally April through September.

Odd choice for Session as aren't most Wheat beers kinda low in ABV to begin with?

I see founders had a Wheat that was 6.8%, but that not typical …right?

American wheat or rye beer should always be easy drinking and refreshing. This is a moderate alcohol beer (4 to 5.5% ABV) with medium-light to medium body and medium to high carbonation. Appearance ranges from straw to light gold and from clear to hazy.


I think Sweetcell may even be a bigger Founders fanboy than I am. Are we allowed to like the again?

"session" usually means under 5% in the US, so technically this qualifies.  personally i would have thought they'd go lower, say under 4.5, to really hammer home the session aspect.  most american wheats are indeed at the lower end of the scale but not necessarily sessions: oberon is 5.8%, for example, while GI's 312 is only 4.2%.

Space wrote:
I think Sweetcell may even be a bigger Founders fanboy than I am. Are we allowed to like the again?

nah.  Founders is fine, but i only ever buy their bigger stuff (dug up a bottle of Better half not too long ago, yum).  posted that announcement since it hasn't been made public yet - i'm spinning unrelease info, yo.

Unreleased info? That's been making the rounds for about a month.

Breakfast Stout and beers that use breakfast stout as the base are the only good Founder's beers. Prove me wrong.

Yada wrote:
Unreleased info? That's been making the rounds for about a month.

Breakfast Stout and beers that use breakfast stout as the base are the only good Founder's beers. Prove me wrong.

You don’t like Centennial IPA?

Yada wrote:
Unreleased info? That's been making the rounds for about a month.

 
really?  i missed that, not that i'm that well informed… where?

Yada wrote:
Breakfast Stout and beers that use breakfast stout as the base

saying that KBS and the like are "based" on breakfast stout is a stretch.  the beers are similar because they're in the same style - there are only so many ways to make a breakfast stout - but the recipes are different.  KBS, for example, uses less oats, has more malt (higher gravity), higher percentage roast grains, has more bitterness, etc.

[font=verdana]that's like saying a brewery's IPA #1 is "based" on IPA #2.  so if you're comfortable saying that all of Stone's myriad IPAs are "based" on their original IPA, then sure - BS is the base for all of their imperial stouts. [/font]

Yada wrote:
are the only good Founder's beers. Prove me wrong.

the above-mentioned Better Half is one example that comes to mind.

Julian, wrote:
You don’t like Centennial IPA?

i haven't had that beer in at least 5 years.  it was, at one time, pretty edgy.  it's now lost in the crowd.

sweetcell wrote:
in case anyone was wondering what they can pick/have delivered from Blue Jacket: https://mailchi.mp/bluejacketdc/fullymadfat-super

FYI, blue jacket has put together a "hidden" (unlisted) assorted 4-pack of strong dark beers (not based on Breakfast stout, as far as i know) for the DC Homebrewer's next meeting - might be interesting for those looking for some variety.  Private Homebrewers Meeting

sweetcell wrote:

Yada wrote:
Unreleased info? That's been making the rounds for about a month.

 
really?  i missed that, not that i'm that well informed… where?

Yada wrote:
Breakfast Stout and beers that use breakfast stout as the base

saying that KBS and the like are "based" on breakfast stout is a stretch.  the beers are similar because they're in the same style - there are only so many ways to make a breakfast stout - but the recipes are different.  KBS, for example, uses less oats, has more malt (higher gravity), higher percentage roast grains, has more bitterness, etc.

[font=verdana]that's like saying a brewery's IPA #1 is "based" on IPA #2.  so if you're comfortable saying that all of Stone's myriad IPAs are "based" on their original IPA, then sure - BS is the base for all of their imperial stouts. [/font]

Yada wrote:
are the only good Founder's beers. Prove me wrong.

the above-mentioned Better Half is one example that comes to mind.

I stand corrected, but I stand by their stouts are the only beers of theirs I like…

And what sweets said regarding centennial ipa, I wouldn't not drink but I wouldn't buy it and I haven't had one in years.

Session ipas are one of my least favorite beers. If I want a light watery beer, I'll just drink a light watery beer.

I agree, to an extent. Breakfast Stout is still my favorite Foumders beer. Their porter may be the best budget widely available porter out there. KBS passes the Space ratio test with flying colors. Frangelic Mountain was tasty.

Had a Better Half the other day myself. Tasty even if my actual better half hated it. Will still drink a Backwoods Bastard. Thought Marvelroast was very good.

Wouldn't bother with any of their hoppy beers.

Yada wrote:
I stand corrected, but I stand by their stouts are the only beers of theirs I like…

a defensible position.  not sure i'm 100% with you, but i'm 90% there…

Yada wrote:
Session ipas are one of my least favorite beers. If I want a light watery beer, I'll just drink a light watery beer.

back in the before times, when we could gather socially, i attended a bbq with a cooler full of yellow fizzy water-beer (bud light, IIRC), hard seltzers, and all day IPA.  the gathering lasted many hours and it was hot out so i had a chance to rotate through all the offerings.  all day ipa was by far the most interesting choice - i had a few cans of that, vs. one yellow fizzy water-beer and a third of a mango seltzer.  but to your point, perhaps i wasn't in the mood for yellow fizzy water-beer.

Yada wrote:
https://newschoolbeer.com/home/2021/1/oakshire-brewing-recalls-theme-from-the-bottom-mango-cheesecake

this is a live example of:

sweetcell wrote:
fruit goop: for 99% of fruited beer, the goop is added during fermentation so all sugars are consumed.  fruit doesn't affect shelf stability.  HOWEVER, some yahoos like to add fruit at packaging - notably some milkshake IPA makers.  these beers will (or certainly should) come with a warning: KEEP COLD AND DRINK ASAP.  as long as the beer is in a fridge, the yeast should stay dormant and all is well.  if you suspect that a can of warm beer has fresh fruit in it (again, a rare thing given how dangerous it is), just give it a light squeeze while ensuring that your face isn't in the way of the top/opening since that's where it will fail: if the can is rock-hard, back away quickly and call the bomb squad.

i take issue with something the article wrote:

[font=neue-haas-grotesk-display] Cans… are bulging and at risk to burst due to visible signs of refermentation in the package. Brewing with boat loads of fruit and strange ingredients that interact with brewing yeast in unexpected ways can result in similarly unpredictable side effects [/font]

brewing with fruit and weird ingredients doesn't result in unpredictable side effects. someone effed up by not waiting long enough for the fruit to referment so it was a failure of quality control.  but instead to owning up with "sorry, we goofed" they're trying to blame it on "ingredients that interact with brewing yeast in unexpected ways", AKA magical thinking.  it's insulting their customers, IMO.

[font=neue-haas-grotesk-display] Cans… are bulging and at risk to burst due to visible signs of refermentation in the package. but by quickly reacting in a responsible manner Oakshire shows that they are invested in a quality product. [/font]

aaaaand the bullshit continues.  if you're invested in a quality product, you put processes in place to ensure you don't release exploding cans.  fucking up then trying to mop up the mess by making consumers responsible for the safe disposition of bottle grenades isn't dedication to quality.  that's marketing happy-talk.

this information isn't on any of their social media sites.  from the article: "the majority of the cans sold online via pre-sale. All consumers who purchased this beer have been emailed a copy of this press release."  so for the minority who didn't buy via presale and didn't get a press release mailed to them - too bad so sad?  also, they're confident that 100% of their presale purchasers will read that email and it won't end up in their spam folder?  no need to alarm the public and take a reputational hit, nothing to see here folks!

those things can explode and hurt someone.  it's a recklessly stupid thing to do on top of a previous recklessly stupid thing to do. 

Apologies in advance for triggering sidedrainpour…

https://shop.3fonteinen.be/collections/lambic-beers/products/the-geuze-fruit-magnum-pack?variant=32555523407921

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OfficeOfTheFormerHatch wrote:
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Seriously?

Yada wrote:

OfficeOfTheFormerHatch wrote:
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Seriously?

Well I thought it was sold out and made some post that I was going to buy some, but was too late
then I saw it was not on sale until 1/28
but this 3 pack is looking to cost $190…so you did outdo yourself
although these are ~50oz each

I will say, I think purchasing one $25-35 bottle of beer for a special occasion is legit
but I personally don't have 6 special occasions that I can think of

I just bought a four pack of Foam. (have never had any Foam before)