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gellman
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Re: The Beer Thread February 28, 2017 at 03:15 PM UTC #
great wrote:
call me crazy…but $40 for 750ML is kinda nuts…



I can't believe I can routinely get a bottle of Kriek for $20 in Jersey. The price I have to pay is a weekend with the in-laws, however.
walkie,talkie
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Re: The Beer Thread February 28, 2017 at 03:16 PM UTC #
when, will the "aged in bourbon barrels," trend . . . end?
sweetcell
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Re: The Beer Thread February 28, 2017 at 03:59 PM UTC #
walkie,talkie wrote:
when, will the "aged in bourbon barrels," trend . . . end?

hopefully never, as far as i'm concerned.  BBA'ed sours is the new frontier.

on the upside, there are plenty of non-BBA'ed beers out there.
Yada
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Re: The Beer Thread February 28, 2017 at 07:23 PM UTC #
sweetcell wrote:
Best Beer Bars in America, Chosen by CraftBeer.com Readers
https://www.craftbeer.com/breweries/great-american-beer-bars-2017

saving you the read:

DC: Churchkey
MD: Max's
VA: Blue 5 Restaurant in Roanoke (??)



Other than VA where I drink about once every few years, the same MD/DC bars seem to be on EVERY SINGLE list.
jrpa
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Re: The Beer Thread February 28, 2017 at 07:39 PM UTC #
sweetcell wrote:
VA: Blue 5 Restaurant in Roanoke (??)

My sister lives in Roanoke and I've been there. If you had told me it was some amazing beer bar, I never would've known. Didn't look like a ridiculous number of taps. Food was merely "ok".
sweetcell
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Re: The Beer Thread February 28, 2017 at 08:38 PM UTC #
Julian, wrote:
Didn't look like a ridiculous number of taps.

per the article:

Bottles/Cans: 70
Draught: 46

maybe they added lines since you were last there…
jrpa
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Re: The Beer Thread February 28, 2017 at 08:44 PM UTC #
sweetcell wrote:
maybe they added lines since you were last there…
Possibly.
jrpa
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Re: The Beer Thread February 28, 2017 at 08:46 PM UTC #
Oh, I had an usual beer last weekend. It was called Duchesse de Bourgogne. It cost like $14. It tasted like vinegar. Is this supposed to be a big deal? The dude acted like it was a big deal.
sweetcell
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Re: The Beer Thread February 28, 2017 at 09:06 PM UTC #
Julian, wrote:
Oh, I had an usual beer last weekend. It was called Duchesse de Bourgogne. It cost like $14. It tasted like vinegar. Is this supposed to be a big deal? The dude acted like it was a big deal.

it gets a "meh" from me, but a lot of people like it.  it's one of the more widely available sour beers out there and if often a gateway beer into the world of sours. 

yes, the style (flanders red) can have some hints of vinegar (acetic acid) and the duchess is considered a classic example of the style, but duchess often has too much vinegar to be enjoyable.  it can also be a butter bomb (diacetyl).  it can be pretty tasty when you get a good bottle, but the misses aren't worth the hits IMO.  how they can get away with being so inconsistent in quality, yet so consistently popular, is beyond me.  it is indeed sour, but doesn't have a whole lot else going on compared to, say, a gueuze.

i did share a bottle over xmas and it was quite nice.
Space Freely
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Re: The Beer Thread February 28, 2017 at 09:25 PM UTC #
Julian, wrote:
sweetcell wrote:
VA: Blue 5 Restaurant in Roanoke (??)

My sister lives in Roanoke and I've been there. If you had told me it was some amazing beer bar, I never would've known. Didn't look like a ridiculous number of taps. Food was merely "ok".


We're doing a roadtrip to Asheville for Spring Break….probably making some good beer visits down there…stopping off in Roanoke for the night on the way home…previously looked at the draft list for this place and though it was big, it was pretty unmemorable. Mekong or the Answer has a much, much better draft list.
Space Freely
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Re: The Beer Thread February 28, 2017 at 09:27 PM UTC #
sweetcell wrote:
Julian, wrote:
Oh, I had an usual beer last weekend. It was called Duchesse de Bourgogne. It cost like $14. It tasted like vinegar. Is this supposed to be a big deal? The dude acted like it was a big deal.

it gets a "meh" from me, but a lot of people like it.  it's one of the more widely available sour beers out there and if often a gateway beer into the world of sours. 

yes, the style (flanders red) can have some hints of vinegar (acetic acid) and the duchess is considered a classic example of the style, but duchess often has too much vinegar to be enjoyable.  it can also be a butter bomb (diacetyl).  it can be pretty tasty when you get a good bottle, but the misses aren't worth the hits IMO.  how they can get away with being so inconsistent in quality, yet so consistently popular, is beyond me.  it is indeed sour, but doesn't have a whole lot else going on compared to, say, a gueuze.

i did share a bottle over xmas and it was quite nice.


It's also on the sweet side compared to most other sours, imo. And that's not a good thing. While I'd never turn down a free glass or bottle of it, it's nothing I'd seek out.
Sidehatch
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Re: The Beer Thread February 28, 2017 at 09:54 PM UTC #
also…they've had it on draft at the 930 at the top bar for years
Monk's kettle was my gateway Flanders red
sweetcell
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Re: The Beer Thread February 28, 2017 at 10:00 PM UTC #
great wrote:
also…they've had it on draft at the 930 at the top bar for years

right!  forgot about that.  i remember getting one before i was in to sours.  the bartender warned me.  i couldn't finish it.
Unsanity
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Re: The Beer Thread March 01, 2017 at 09:41 AM UTC #
sweetcell wrote:
Julian, wrote:
Oh, I had an usual beer last weekend. It was called Duchesse de Bourgogne. It cost like $14. It tasted like vinegar. Is this supposed to be a big deal? The dude acted like it was a big deal.

it gets a "meh" from me, but a lot of people like it.  it's one of the more widely available sour beers out there and if often a gateway beer into the world of sours. 

yes, the style (flanders red) can have some hints of vinegar (acetic acid) and the duchess is considered a classic example of the style, but duchess often has too much vinegar to be enjoyable.  it can also be a butter bomb (diacetyl).  it can be pretty tasty when you get a good bottle, but the misses aren't worth the hits IMO.  how they can get away with being so inconsistent in quality, yet so consistently popular, is beyond me.  it is indeed sour, but doesn't have a whole lot else going on compared to, say, a gueuze.


Duchesse was my gateway to sour beers. Love at first taste. That beer is great for a hot summer day. It has gone up in price since I got into it. My local Total Wine has trouble keeping it on shelves.
Space Freely
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Re: The Beer Thread March 01, 2017 at 01:38 PM UTC #
I tend to prefer my sours poured small, so find that the 11-12 ounce bottle is both the best value and ideal size…even four sharing with my sour loving wife.

For that bottle size, you can't beat Cuvee des Jacobins Rouge or Rodenbach Grand Cru in a four pack for value and quality combined. Highly recommend them over the Duchesse.
Sidehatch
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Re: The Beer Thread March 01, 2017 at 03:35 PM UTC #
Space wrote:with my sour loving wife.

was there supposed to be a comma in there?
sweetcell
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Re: The Beer Thread March 01, 2017 at 03:57 PM UTC #
earth wrote:
Space wrote:with my sour loving wife.

was there supposed to be a comma in there?


no.  space is the sour one.
Sidehatch
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Re: The Beer Thread March 01, 2017 at 03:58 PM UTC #
this has been a banner week for zingers…so many contenders for PTOW

Hutch…you should start that thread
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