The Beer Thread

Zwanze Day at the Sovereign this year.

Doors, Cantillon Drafts & Zwanze Tasting Tickets at 12 pm. Zwanze Pours at 3pm

The Sovereign is incredibly honored to host Cantillon's Zwanze Day for the first time ever in 2016. The privilege of pouring their Zwanze blend each year is bestowed upon fewer than 60 locations across the entire globe. Our sister bar ChurchKey has had the distinct pleasure of hosting this event for the last 5 years and we couldn't be more excited to carry the torch on October 1st. We'll be opening the bar and restaurant at 12 PM for customers and along with the other participating bars we'll be tapping the Zwanze keg at 3 PM sharp.

This year's Zwanze offering is going to be a throwback to the Framboise Cantillon was producing until about 30 years ago. As the name implies, it was a lambic aged on raspberries, but back in the eighties they used fresh fruit that lost its color quickly and often made filtration difficult, so cherries were also used to help maintain some rosiness and to act as a secondary filter bed beneath the raspberries. Vanilla was also added to round out the flavor of the offering. With modern flash-freezing techniques helping to maintain color and consistency, Cantillon began producing Rosé de Gambrinus with 100% raspberries in the middle of the 1980s as well. This will be the first raspberry/cherry blend they've done since 1986, and definitely the only Cantillon lambic to incorporate vanilla since then.

Though we will not be officially pouring Zwanze 2016 until 3 PM–as we share in a worldwide toast with all of the other Zwanze Day breweries, bars and bottle shops–we will be preselling tickets for pours of Zwanze 2016 right when we open at 12PM. Do try to get to The Sovereign as close to our opening time as possible; we anticipate huge crowds and want to be sure that the first to arrive get to taste Zwanze 2016. All those with Zwanze 2016 tickets will get to taste this delicious rarity once the keg is tapped at 3PM. Additionally, all other Cantillon drafts will be available for purchase right when we open at 12PM for Zwanze Day.

Cantillon Zwanze Day 2016 Draft List (so far…):
Cantillon Zwanze 2016 (Tasting tickets begin selling at 12pm; Zwanze 2016 tapping at 3pm)
Cantillon Gueuze 100% Lambic (Available at 12pm)
Cantillon Kriek (Available at 12pm)
Cantillon Mamouche (Available at 12pm)
Cantillon Iris Grand Cru (Available at 12pm)
Made it to Fair Winds Brewing for the first time yesterday. 10 minutes from my house, then another 10 minutes to the dump.

Not as good as Aslin, or Ocelot. Still, very good beer. Perhaps the best session IPA I've had, period. Hitch, you should try it.


Aslin: $14/32 ounce crowler, 40 minute drive, 40 minute wait in line to buy take home beer.

Fair Winds: $3.75/32 ounce growler (half off growler fill, Weds only), 10 min drive, no lines.
I'll be in Indianapolis for a conference next week.  Anyone have bar/brewery references or a few "must try" beers off the top of their head?

I've never been to Indiana and don't know their beer scene at all, aside from to try anything i see from Three Floyds.
Anybody know where to pick up Lone Star beer? Seems like the closest place is 200 miles away!
imbecile wrote:
I'll be in Indianapolis for a conference next week.  Anyone have bar/brewery references or a few "must try" beers off the top of their head?

I've never been to Indiana and don't know their beer scene at all, aside from to try anything i see from Three Floyds.


The only Indy beer I've had was Sun King, which was pretty good. Looks like there may be some that are even better:

https://www.beeradvocate.com/place/list/?&c_id=US&s_id=IN&city=Indianapolis&sort=name&sort=avgbeers
Michael wrote:
Anybody know where to pick up Lone Star beer? Seems like the closest place is 200 miles away!


I'd recommend getting yourself a case of High Life bottles.

No lines, available everywhere, and roughly 10 cents an ounce. Big fan.
Yada wrote:
Michael wrote:
Anybody know where to pick up Lone Star beer? Seems like the closest place is 200 miles away!


I'd recommend getting yourself a case of High Life bottles.

No lines, available everywhere, and roughly 10 cents an ounce. Big fan.


oh yah I drink that…big fan… although my local Rite Aid no longer carries it


people that buy beer at rite aid . . . are the fucking, best.
I honestly didn't even realize pharmacies sell beer.
Julian, wrote:
I honestly didn't even realize pharmacies sell beer.


A few months back in NYC I purchased a Coors Original 24oz can in a Rite Aid. Big fan.
Yada wrote:
Julian, wrote:
I honestly didn't even realize pharmacies sell beer.


A few months back in NYC I purchased a Coors Original 24oz can in a Rite Aid. Big fan.

And you didn't report said purchase to this thread immediately? This is how a community falls apart. . .
Yada wrote:
Julian, wrote:
I honestly didn't even realize pharmacies sell beer.


A few months back in NYC I purchased a Coors Original 24oz can in a Rite Aid. Big fan.


I once toured the Coors plant in Golden, Colorado and drank free Coors. Probably wasn't worth the price of gas and the vacation time commitment it cost. Hangs head in shame.
Somehow i never had Rogue Farms 7 Hop IPA until last night.  Tasty 1.5 IPA.  Would drink it again.
https://www.lawsonsfinest.com/beers/super-session-ipa/

I had this a while back at this cool little bar in Lancaster. Had I known it was so difficult to get, I would have had more than 2. It was delicious.
Yada wrote:
Interesting perspective from one of the "sell outs."

http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2016/08/16/breckenridge-brewery-owner-opens-up-about-life.html?ana=fbk

i'm not surprised to learn that the Big Boys are hands-off an supportive of their craft-segment acquisitions.  goose island provided the model of what happens when you let a craft brewery continue to do its thing with some additional corporate support (infected BCBS scandal notwithstanding…)

my big fear is at the corporate level, far above the heads of the craft brewers.  Big Beers has been trying to muscle craft beer off the shelf, but retailers have had an obvious reason why they can't dump craft beer: it sells, and the Big Boys don't have anything to offer in its place.  a retailer isn't going to drop a sure seller just because Bud wants its shelf space.  so now, with these acquisitions, Big Beer can tell the retailer to abandon the little local breweries since they now have their own line of "craft" beer.

i'm still not a fan of these acquisitions.  it's (most likely) good for the craft brewery that is bought, but it's not good for the industry overall.
in other news:

sip of sunshine > heady topper, at least right now.  given how much HT changes, this assessment is subject to change.
I wrote:
Somehow i never had Rogue Farms 7 Hop IPA until last night.  Tasty 1.5 IPA.  Would drink it again.


That's a brewery I tend to avoid.
so if you could only hit one philadelphia brewery….what would it be

I kinda want to hit Monk's Cafe, but with the Sovereign a few miles from me, it doesn't have the same 'rareness' appeal