The Beer Thread

sweetcell wrote:

Carlos wrote:
it's almost like we are approaching a breakthrough on this board with what i've been saying all along… rating IPAs is stupid and whatever is the freshest is the best.

well, it's a virtuous circle: the higher rated an IPA, the more people seek it out, the quicker it sells out… so when you do find it, it's always fresh.  it may not explain why the Pliney and the Headies of the world first got rated highly, but it explains why they stay there.

Space wrote:
That said, it was unfortunately only the third or fourth best IPA I had all weekend, exceeded by two of the three IPA's I tried at Tired Hands, and perhaps even equalled by Victory Dirtwolf.

so you're saying that in PA, you had better IPAs made in-state vs. something that was trucked in from California?

Space wrote:
I've never understood how it rates so, so high. For me, there are other IPA's out there that are better.

maybe because so many of the reviewers are in California?

i like the way you think.

In Ohio/WV for work and noticed Lagunitas Sucks sixers on the shelves! We have to be getting these soon, right?! I love that beer with a passion.

Also, Columbus is an AMAZING beer city. Bodhi by CBC is a Top 5 beer for me, plus I got it on draft for $5! And that was right after a glass of Alpha King.

So let me get this straight. Let's say a Philly bar has Pliny the Elder (100 on BA) on draft. They also have (imo) one of the best IPA's from the PNW, Laurelwood Workhorse IPA (93) on draft. Both rarely if ever seen east of the Mississippi, outside of Philly.

You mean to tell me you're going to choose a local IPA by Sly Fox (83) or Yards (85) because the truck has the shortest drive?  ???

Space wrote:
So let me get this straight. Let's say a Philly bar has Pliny the Elder (100 on BA) on draft. They also have (imo) one of the best IPA's from the PNW, Laurelwood Workhorse IPA (93) on draft. Both rarely if ever seen east of the Mississippi, outside of Philly.

You mean to tell me you're going to choose a local IPA by Sly Fox (83) or Yards (85) because the truck has the shortest drive?  ???

no but i'd happily pass on workhorse and PtE for victory or troegs or weyerbacher or tired hands or pizza boy or hell, even founders, dc brau, dogfish head, flying dog….

and beeradvocate ratings are stupid.

also workhorse is excellent

Yada wrote:

Space wrote:

Nuke wrote:

Yada wrote:
Anyone crushing these guys yet?

So good.

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/an-early-contender-for-beer-of-the-year-1701515512/+robharvilla

It's without a doubt a tasty beer, but beer of the year? The guy who wrote that probably doesn't get out much. It's not even the best gose produced in PA.

Best gose in Pa is?

I'm still going to say that the Earth, Bread+Brewery gose was the best PA gose I've had. But I'll add that we split one of these yesterday as a Mother's Day treat, and yes, this is a damn tasty beer and I wish that I'd bought more than five of them, as it seems to be sold out everywhere and presumably not coming back until next Spring, if at all.

Happy to see Sucks in 12oz bottles at most local shops now and even better, you do know this first batch is fresh.

Yada wrote:
Happy to see Sucks in 12oz bottles at most local shops now and even better, you do know this first batch is fresh.

Is that in the D, the M, or the V? Right in time for me, as for once our home IPA supply is just about shot.

Though I won't buy too much, as we're headed to Tampa next month, and the first checked bags for each person are free on Southwest. So that's about 300 pounds of Jai Alai.

Space wrote:

Yada wrote:
Happy to see Sucks in 12oz bottles at most local shops now and even better, you do know this first batch is fresh.

Is that in the D, the M, or the V? Right in time for me, as for once our home IPA supply is just about shot.

Though I won't buy too much, as we're headed to Tampa next month, and the first checked bags for each person are free on Southwest. So that's about 300 pounds of Jai Alai.

Purchased in the M ($13.99 a sixer) and spotted in the D ($14.99) a sixer. One of the few times I've seen beer for less in MD!

Yada wrote:

Space wrote:

Yada wrote:
Happy to see Sucks in 12oz bottles at most local shops now and even better, you do know this first batch is fresh.

Is that in the D, the M, or the V? Right in time for me, as for once our home IPA supply is just about shot.

Though I won't buy too much, as we're headed to Tampa next month, and the first checked bags for each person are free on Southwest. So that's about 300 pounds of Jai Alai.

Purchased in the M ($13.99 a sixer) and spotted in the D ($14.99) a sixer. One of the few times I've seen beer for less in MD!

Wow, I can remember getting it for $8.99 or $9.99 back in the day. Guess Tony has to pay for the new Chicago brewery somehow, since he didn't take government money like Stone did.

Yada wrote:

Space wrote:

Yada wrote:
Happy to see Sucks in 12oz bottles at most local shops now and even better, you do know this first batch is fresh.

Is that in the D, the M, or the V? Right in time for me, as for once our home IPA supply is just about shot.

Though I won't buy too much, as we're headed to Tampa next month, and the first checked bags for each person are free on Southwest. So that's about 300 pounds of Jai Alai.

Purchased in the M ($13.99 a sixer) and spotted in the D ($14.99) a sixer. One of the few times I've seen beer for less in MD!

Now available for $9.99 in VA.

^that's the price I've seen suck for in VA, sometimes $10.99

Space wrote:

Yada wrote:

Space wrote:

Yada wrote:
Happy to see Sucks in 12oz bottles at most local shops now and even better, you do know this first batch is fresh.

Is that in the D, the M, or the V? Right in time for me, as for once our home IPA supply is just about shot.

Though I won't buy too much, as we're headed to Tampa next month, and the first checked bags for each person are free on Southwest. So that's about 300 pounds of Jai Alai.

Purchased in the M ($13.99 a sixer) and spotted in the D ($14.99) a sixer. One of the few times I've seen beer for less in MD!

Now available for $9.99 in VA.

Space droppin' the thrifty knowledge.

Space wrote:

Yada wrote:

Space wrote:

Yada wrote:
Happy to see Sucks in 12oz bottles at most local shops now and even better, you do know this first batch is fresh.

Is that in the D, the M, or the V? Right in time for me, as for once our home IPA supply is just about shot.

Though I won't buy too much, as we're headed to Tampa next month, and the first checked bags for each person are free on Southwest. So that's about 300 pounds of Jai Alai.

Purchased in the M ($13.99 a sixer) and spotted in the D ($14.99) a sixer. One of the few times I've seen beer for less in MD!

Wow, I can remember getting it for $8.99 or $9.99 back in the day. Guess Tony has to pay for the new Chicago brewery somehow, since he didn't take government money like Stone did.

it's more like these DC and MD shops need to pay their rent and know this shit is gonna fly off the shelves.

lagunitas continues to give zero fucks about making money, apparently, with their couch trippin' tours and low prices.  at the very least, they have a very different idea than most how they are going to make their money.

Has anybody had the Avery Raspberry Sour, and if so is it worth $18 a bottle? As in $2 more than a bottle of La Folie…

funny you should ask, i just picked up a bottle of Raspberry Sour for $15.99 here in DC.  i'll probably try it this weekend.  only one bottle left, i was tempted to grab both but couldn't justify it for the price.  BA reviews are very positive but people are stopping short of calling it amazing.  t'was good enough to get me to try it.  sounds like folks out west are paying $10, lots of comments along the lines of "hands-down best value in sours today."

also picked up a 4-pack of Kirsche Gose and a single of Weyeerbacher's Tarte Nouveau.  an all-sour beer run!

also, i've got 4 of my own sours coming online… i really shouldn't be buying commercial sours, but you just can't have enough pucker-beer on hand now can you?

sweetcell wrote:also, i've got 4 of my own sours coming online… i really shouldn't be buying commercial sours, but you just can't have enough pucker-beer on hand now can you?

Nice…might have to ask you some tips on your Brettanomyces

Sidehatch wrote:

sweetcell wrote:also, i've got 4 of my own sours coming online… i really shouldn't be buying commercial sours, but you just can't have enough pucker-beer on hand now can you?

Nice…might have to ask you some tips on your Brettanomyces

i know it's a fuzzy area, but brettanomyces doesn't make sour beer. 

lactobacillus and pediococcus bacteria are the main culprits.

Aren't those dinosaurs? I didn't know, they could make beer.

Carlos wrote:

Sidehatch wrote:

sweetcell wrote:also, i've got 4 of my own sours coming online… i really shouldn't be buying commercial sours, but you just can't have enough pucker-beer on hand now can you?

Nice…might have to ask you some tips on your Brettanomyces

i know it's a fuzzy area, but brettanomyces doesn't make sour beer. 

lactobacillus and pediococcus bacteria are the main culprits.

true indeed, but where there is sour beer there is almost always brett (always when using pedio, and fairly often with lacto).  so my interpretation of sidehatch's question was "if you know about sour beer, you probably know about brett".

i've been using brett for a few years.  ask away, happy to share my knowledge/opinions.