The Beer Thread

They make premium beer with expensive ingredients.  From their post, it seems like the owners are going separate ways.

World Beer Cup was held last week. notable winners:
- Fat Head did really well for themselves, taking gold in american IPA (Head Hunter) and another gold in strong red ale (Bone Head).  as is always the case nowadays, amIPA was the most-entered category (412).
- DC Brau raked in a gold for their Penn Quarter Porter in the robust porter category.
- the USA was the clear leader, with over 80% of the medals (approx), and Canada was the clear second.  as much as it would be fun to claim this as "proof" of the superiority of north american brewing, this competition is only "lightly international"… vast majority of entries come from those two countries. 
- Argentina won as many medals as Belgium  :P

sweetcell wrote:
World Beer Cup was held last week. notable winners:
- Fat Head did really well for themselves, taking gold in american IPA (Head Hunter) and another gold in strong red ale (Bone Head).  as is always the case nowadays, amIPA was the most-entered category (412).
- DC Brau raked in a gold for their Penn Quarter Porter in the robust porter category.
- the USA was the clear leader, with over 80% of the medals (approx), and Canada was the clear second.  as much as it would be fun to claim this as "proof" of the superiority of north american brewing, this competition is only "lightly international"… vast majority of entries come from those two countries. 
- Argentina won as many medals as Belgium  :P

2008 called. They want their results back.

"quality is timeless"
- somebody somewhere

sweetcell wrote:
"quality is timeless"
- somebody somewhere

I dunno, DC Brau is the 8 track player of beer at this point.

I doubt the really good breweries even send their beer to beer competitions. What would be the point.

sweetcell wrote:
"quality is timeless"
- somebody somewhere

The prestige television thread is over there.

Space wrote:
I doubt the really good breweries even send their beer to beer competitions. What would be the point.

well, other than a relatively cheap marketing hit, there is prestige: the WBC is a pretty big deal among professional brewers.  its medals are held in even higher regard than a GABF medal.

a quick napkin calc shows that about 20% of all US breweries participated in this year's WBC.  a good chunk of that other 80% is going to be small breweries and brewpubs that either know they can't win, or frankly don't care (i.e. their focus is on making whatever sells locally AKA staying in business, and/or are not concerned about national/international recognition).  but certainly, there are some excellent breweries that didn't participate.  i noticed that Hill Farmstead and The Alchemist didn't participate, but they never participate in any competitions (clearly happy being hermits in vermont, can't blame them…)

if you go to the participating breweries page and open up the "north america" list - which really good breweries are missing?  many, if not all, of the usual suspects are there IMO.  i guess my point is that representation at the WBC looked pretty good to me.

sweetcell wrote:

Space wrote:
I doubt the really good breweries even send their beer to beer competitions. What would be the point.

which really good breweries are missing?  many, if not all, of the usual suspects are there IMO.  i guess my point is that representation at the WBC looked pretty good to me.

Prepare for a killsally-esque end of year concert list response from The Space.

Yada wrote:

sweetcell wrote:

Space wrote:
I doubt the really good breweries even send their beer to beer competitions. What would be the point.

which really good breweries are missing?  many, if not all, of the usual suspects are there IMO.  i guess my point is that representation at the WBC looked pretty good to me.

Prepare for a killsally-esque end of year concert list response from The Space.

You betcha. None of the first 16 that I randomly pulled out of my head were listed as participants. I think I hit on one on my 17th guess.

Monkish
de Garde
Casey
Other Half
the Veil
Maine Beer Company
Fidens
Mortalis
Triple Crossing
Bissell Brothers
Tree House
Trillium
Burial
Equilibrium
Wheatland Spring
Ocelot

Space wrote:
None of the first 16 that I randomly pulled out of my head were listed as participants. I think I hit on one on my 17th guess.

good list, but i absolutely question you going 0/16.

sweetcell wrote:
- Argentina won as many medals as Belgium  :P

that's kinda nuts…

sweetcell wrote:

Space wrote:
None of the first 16 that I randomly pulled out of my head were listed as participants. I think I hit on one on my 17th guess.

good list, but i absolutely question you going 0/16.

I mean, I haven't paid attention to beer in a few years at this point and that list was pretty accurate then… point, space!

sweetcell wrote:

Space wrote:
None of the first 16 that I randomly pulled out of my head were listed as participants. I think I hit on one on my 17th guess.

good list, but i absolutely question you going 0/16.

It wasn't 0/16, it was 0/18. I forgot to include Hudson Valley and Suarez. But then I tried Fremont and someone else wo I can't recall and hit on both, so 2/20.

Let's live stream another 10…

Fox Farm…nope
Bierstadt Lagerhaus….nope
Human Robot…yes
Finback…nope
Angary Chair…nope
Clag…nope
The Answer…nope
Civil Society…nope
Tripping Amimals…yes
Cycle…nope

So that's 4/30. Actually, I forgot that Tree House was two words, and they were there. So that's 5/30.

Apparently DC Brau won more medals than Tree House?

we might be entering a new stage of the evolution of craft beer: Big Beer selling its aquisitions back to the original owners, AKA the divestment stage

Anheuser-Busch Sells Appalachian Mountain Brewery Back to Founders

That’s great.  Would be interesting to know what they paid and what they sold it back for

SideUAPhatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl wrote:
That’s great.  Would be interesting to know what they paid and what they sold it back for

Not back to the original owner. but shades of this story.

I thought the original sale of Ballast Point to Constellation for a billion in 2015 had to be one of the biggest swindles of all time.

https://www.foodandwine.com/news/ballast-point-sold-kings-convicts-wine-group

Space wrote:

SideUAPhatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl wrote:
That’s great.  Would be interesting to know what they paid and what they sold it back for

Not back to the original owner. but shades of this story.

I thought the original sale of Ballast Point to Constellation for a billion in 2015 had to be one of the biggest swindles of all time.

https://www.foodandwine.com/news/ballast-point-sold-kings-convicts-wine-group

I assume the owners of Ballast were the ones who pulled off the swindle?
would love to have a VH1 style of "Where are they now"

edit: $900 million less yowza that must have been hard to cover that loss on the old PandL
TBH it sold fairly well for being one of the first $12 six packs out there, for some reason always saw a lot of frat-type dudes buying it  (rather than the typical beared balding pear)

SideUAPhatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl wrote:

Space wrote:

SideUAPhatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl wrote:
That’s great.  Would be interesting to know what they paid and what they sold it back for

Not back to the original owner. but shades of this story.

I thought the original sale of Ballast Point to Constellation for a billion in 2015 had to be one of the biggest swindles of all time.

https://www.foodandwine.com/news/ballast-point-sold-kings-convicts-wine-group

I assume the owners of Ballast were the ones who pulled off the swindle?
would love to have a VH1 style of "Where are they now"

edit: $900 million less yowza that must have been hard to cover that loss on the old PandL
TBH it sold fairly well for being one of the first $12 six packs out there, for some reason always saw a lot of frat-type dudes buying it  (rather than the typical beared balding pear)

I feel like Sculplin like you said, was one of the first say post two hearted/60 min that was easily accessible… not sure I'd pin a certain buyer on it, but assuming you liked "good" beer, a high abv, and liked to get crunked up… It was the best choice 10+ years ago.

Flying Dog acquired by NY Brewer