The Beer Thread

Carlos wrote:

Space wrote:

Carlos wrote:
the good news is this'll probably open up the market for more specialty markets and bottleshops.

More places with 30-50% markup above Whole Foods or Total Wine where you have to spend a fortune or kiss someone's ass to get the rare stuff.

Woohoo! Right on.

Not that I'm happy about shopping at a company that just shit on it's workers though.

you're dumb

BOOM! You got me.

The Shelton Brothers Festival in St Petersburg is the place to be NEXT weekend. Who can argue with this list?

The Festival 2015 ? Bottle & Tap List


18th Street
VIP: Sour Note Blackberry Gose & Deal With the Devil
All Sessions: For Rent Single-Hop Citra Pale
Session 1: Hunter Vanilla Double Milk Stout
Session 2: Forman Coffee Porter
Session 3: Sour Note Flanders

7venth Sun
All Sessions: TimeBomb Session IPA

8 Wired
VIP: Mighty Imperial Ale
All Sessions: Saison Sauvin
Sessions 1 and 2: Wild Feijoa
Session 3: Batch 2.18

Amager
VIP: Double Black Mash
All Sessions: Chad, King of the Wild Yeast (Crooked Stave collaboration)
Session 1: Shadow Pictures (Grassroots collaboration)
Session 2: Lawrence of Arabica (18th Street collaboration)
Session 3: The Amazing Gotland Campfire Beer (Malmö collaboration)

Argus
Session 1: Ciderkin & Malus Cuvée
Session 2: Ginger Perry & Perennial
Session 3: Tepache (pineapple wine) & Ciderkin

Arizona Wilderness
All Sessions: Suit and tiePA
Session 1: Grape Bear Wallow Berliner Weisse
Session 2: American Presidential Stout
Session 3: Sour Guy Rye

Art Bev Coop
All Sessions: Ginger Libation

Bagby
ALT in the Family
Reconnoiter Porter
Weissenhopper
Pesky Neighbor

Baird
VIP: Temple Garden Yuzu
All Sessions: Wabi-Sabi
Session 1 & 3: Natsumikan Ale
Session 2: Numazu Lager

Beachwood
All Sessions: Hop Ramen & Onyx Imperial Stout

Blaugies
All Sessions: La Vermontoise (Hill Farmstead collaboration)
Session 1: La Moneuse
Session 2: Darbyste
Session 3: Saison d?Epeautre

Bluejacket
TBD

Bottle Shop
All Sessions: Moor Beer B-Moor & Moor Beer Stout

Brasserie du Pays Flamand
VIP: Sour Ale Blackberry
All Sessions: Sour Ale Cassis
Session 1 & 2: Cuvée Brett White
Session 3: Cuvée Brett Red

Brasserie Dunham
VIP: Flanders Red
All Sessions: Tropicale IPA & Amicis Magicus (Jester King collaboration)
Session 1: Assemblage No. 5 & Assemblage Hors-Serie #2
Session 2: Assemblage Hors-Serie #3 & The Red Sashes
Session 3: Saison Rustique & Assemblage No. 1

Brekeriet
All Sessions: Ribes
Session 1: Saison Sauvage
Session 2: Brillant
Session 3: Funkstarter

Brewfist
All Sessions: Spaghetti Western (Prairie collaboration)
Session 1: Bureaucracy IPA
Session 2: X-Ray Porter
Session 3: Galaxie Saison

Brewski
All Sessions: MangoFeber & Brewski Berliner
Session 1 & 2: Grape Me Berliner Weisse & AnanasFeber
Session 3: Xenomorph Session & From Skåne with Love

Bridge Road
All Sessions: TBD & Enigma

Buxton
Session 1: Far Skyline & Sky Mountain Sour (To Øl collaboration)
Session 2 & 3: Red Raspberry & Extra Stout

Cantillon
VIP: LHD & 2005 Gueuze
All Sessions: Kriek (on draft) and Bag-in-Box Gueuze (Year 1, 2, and 3)
Session 1: Vigneronne
Session 2: Cuvée St. Gilloise
Session 3: Mamouche

CCM
All Sessions: Mala Vida
Session 1: Negra
Session 2: Lupulus
Session 3: Malta Cuvée

Cervesa Guineu
Session 1: WIPA & Montserrat
Session 2: Jack the RIPA & Marky Ramone?s Brown Ale
Session 3: Riner & Vanilla Black Velvet

Cidrerie du Perche
All Sessions: Cidre Brut, Cidre Demi-Sec, and Poiré

Cigar City
TBD

Coniston/Ridgeway
Session 1: Coniston Bluebird & Coniston Old Man Ale
Session 2: Ridgeway Imperial Barley Wine & Ridgeway Imperial Russian Stout
Session 3: Ridgeway Santa?s Butt and Ridgeway Bad Elf

Coppertail
All Sessions: Whoops Cranberry Hibiscus Berliner
Session 1: Brett Oxtail (Oxbow collaboration)
Session 2: TBD
Session 3: TBD

Crooked Stave
TBD

Cycle
TBD

De la Senne
All Sessions: Saison du Meyboom & Schieve Tabarnak (Trou du Diable collaboration)

De Molen
All Sessions: Cuvée #3
Session 1: Cease & Desist BA
Session 2: Ball & Chain
Session 3: Barley Bomb

De Ranke
All Sessions: Cuvée de Ranke
Sessions 1 & 2: XX Bitter
Session 3: Guldenberg

Dieu du Ciel!
All Sessions: Péché Mortel & Disco Soleil
Session 1: Exorciste 2015
Session 2: Or des Marais
Session 3: Dernière Volonté Brett

Drie Fonteinen
VIP: Zenne y Frontera
All Sessions: Oude Geuze & Oude Kriek

Edge
Session 1: Barretina & Power Plant
Session 2: Apassionada & Hoptimista
Session 3: Flor de la Vida & Pure Decadence (Lervig collaboration)

Faction
Pale Ale
Bornday IIPA
Pilsner
Athena
Java World Stout

Fonta Flora
VIP: Meemaw (Appalachian wild ale w/ High County wild cherries)
All Sessions: Bloody Butcher (Appalachian Grisette)
Session 1: Shopping Spree (tart Appalachian Kvass)
Session 2: Rhythm Rug (tart Appalachian saison w/ local strawberries)

Freigeist
All Sessions: Geisterzug Rhubarb
Session 1: Salzspeicher Cherry
Session 2: Abraxxxas Apple
Session 3: Salzspeicher Raspberry

Funky Buddha
All Sessions: Strawberry Basil Berliner
Session 1: Morning Wood
Session 2: Snowed In
Session 3: TBD

Fyne Ales
All Sessions: Ich Bin Ein Berryliner
Session 1: Mills & Hills
Session 2: Jarl
Session 3: Fynebank

Gravity Brewlab
All Sessions: Sunshine State of Mind
Session 1: Grodzilla (smoked sour)
Session 2: BA Cranberry Cider
Session 3: Black Currant Wild Ale

Green Bench
All Sessions: Les Grisettes, Petit Provision, Sauvage Blanc, Webb?s City Cellar Series Florida Poster Girls, Monsieur Ed (St. Somewhere collab), Backpack (Cigar City collab), Wood Parade Series Manaphin Chocolate Stout, Green Bench Mead & Cider

Grimm
All Sessions: Pulse Wave DIPA
Session 1: Psychokinesis
Session 2: Rainbow Dome
Session 3: Super Symmetry

Hill Farmstead
All Sessions: Anna & Table Dorothy
Session 1: Convivial Suarez
Session 2: Brother Soigne
Session 3: Clara

Hofbrouwerijke
All Sessions: Anarkriek
Session 1 & 3: Flower Sour
Session 2: Hoftrol

Jandrain-Jandrenouille
All Sessions: IV Saison & V Cense

Jester King
All sessions: Noble King
Session 1: Fen Tao
Session 2: Cerveza Sin Frontera
Session 3: Amicis Mortis

Jolly Pumpkin
All Sessions: Oro de Calabaza
Session 1: Ursae Majorus
Session 2: Saison X
Session 3: Pinchadiscos

Jopen
All Sessions: Koyt
Session 1: Stillwater Bloemen
Session 2: Grateful Deaf
Session 3: Coastal Gose

La Choulette
All Sessions: Lafayette
Session 1 & 3: Sans Culottes
Session 2: Framboise

Le Trou du Diable
VIP: Dulcis Succubus
All Sessions: Oude Blanche Cerise
Session 1: Pitoune
Session 2: Buteuse Brassin Special & L?Ours
Session 3: Saison du Tracteur

Les Trois Mousquetaires
VIP: Ceci n?est pas une Gueuze
All Sessions: Berliner Weisse
Session 1: Saison Brett
Session 2: Porter Baltique & Porter Baltique édition spéciale
Session 3: Gose

Les Vergers de la Colline
Session 1: CID Rose & Les Russet
Session 2: CID Original & Glace
Session 3: CID Cuivre & Api-Hop

Libertine
TBD

Malmö
TBD

Magic Rock
Session 1: Pina Collision & Bearded Lady (BA with cherries)
Session 2: Salty Kiss (Tequila barrel) & Cannonball
Session 3: Ginspired & Cannonball

Marina
Session 1: S?Aguia & Mas Cremat
Session 2: Vinya Hop & Black Sea
Session 3: Sour Skull & Devil?s IPA

Mikkeller
VIP: Wineale
All Sessions: Beer Geek Big Blend
Session 1: Spontanpassionfruit
Session 2: Spontanmango
Session 3: Spontangreenapple

Monarchy
All Sessions: Holunderheimer
Session 1: Münchhausen
Session 2: Preussen Weisse
Session 3: Viking Gose

Mystic
All Sessions: Flor Ventus
Session 1 & 3: Saison Renaud
Session 2: Vinland 3

Nøgne Ø
TBD

Oedipus
All Sessions: Mannenliefde (Saison with szechuan pepper, lemon grass and sorachi ace hops)
Session 1: Himbeer (Berliner Weisse with raspberries)
Session 2: Thai Thai (Belgian tripel, with thai spices)
Session 3: Kinderyoga

Oersoep
All Sessions: Brettalicious
Session 1 & 3: Wild at Heart
Session 2: Raspberry Tart

Oxbow
All Sessions: Crossfade
Session 1: BA FPA #10
Session 2: Saison Dell?Aragostra
Session 3: Oxtoberfeset 12/13/14 Blend

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All Sessions: BA Imperial Stout (bourbon)
Session 1: Robust Porter (Twickenham collaboration), BA Brune with cherries (red wine), Barleywine
Session 2: Robust Porter, BA Brune with cherries (red wine), BA Brune (red wine)
Session 3: BA Brune with cherries (red wine), Barleywine

Peckham?s
Session 1: Cider Kir & Moutere Cider
Session 2: Boysenberry Cider & Moutere Perry
Session 3: Elderflower Cider & Cider Kir

Perennial
VIP: 2015 Maman
All Sessions: Regalia
Session 1: 2014 Abraxas
Session 2: Peach Berliner Weisse
Session 3: Funky Wit

Playalinda
All Sessions: Bring It IPA & Barrel-aged Farmhouse Saison

Prairie
VIP: 3rd Anniversary
All Sessions: BOMB!
Session 1: HOP!
Session 2: Funky Gold Mosaic
Session 3: Brett C

Pretty Things
All Sessions: Meadowlark
Session 1: Jack d?Or
Session 2: Field Mouse?s Farewell
Session 3: Barbapapa

Redlight Redlight
VIP: Merde de Singe (saison with tamarind)
All Sessions: Singe de Mer (Saint Somewhere collaboration: dark saison with sea monkeys!)

Renaissance
All Sessions: Black the RIPA
Session 1 & 3: Grandmaster
Session 2: Abundance Baltic Cherry Porter

Ribela
All Sessions: Cider & Artesana

Ritterguts
Gose!

Rooie Dop
All Sessions: Chica Americana
Session 1: Three is a Magic Number (Oersoep/Brew by Numbers collaboration)
Session 2: Blue Dot Double IPA (Ruig/Hair of the Dog collaboration)
Session 3: Back to Black (Tupiniquim collaboration)

Sagra
All Sessions: Blonde, Bohio, Spanish Roja

Saint Somewhere
VIP: Assoiffe
All Sessions: Lectio Divina (Rare Beer Club version)
Session 1: Crépuscule
Session 2: Anne
Session 3: Punaise de Amour

Santé Adairius
VIP: Mercy, Mercy (saison/grisette for Michelin-star restaurant)
All Sessions: Lady in Grey & Appreciation

Side Project
All Sessions: Saison du Blé
Session 1: Marietta Ave
Session 2: Abricot du Fermier
Session 3: Fencerow

Siren
All Sessions: Calypso (Enigma), Mum?s the Word (AZ Wilderness collaboration), Maiden 2014

Struise
VIP: Ypres Reserva 2011
Session 1: Rye Triple Reserva (bourbon barrel)
Session 2: Obelis & Black Albert
Session 3: Aestatis & Danko Power Session IPA

Thiriez
All Sessions: Train to Mars
Session 1: Extra & Fièvre de Cacao
Session 2: Ambree & Petit Princesse
Session 3: Extra & Dalva

To Øl
VIP: Yeastus Christus
Session 1: Nordic by Nature & Fuck Art The Heathens Are Comin!
Session 2: Gose to Hollywood & Sur Amarillo
Session 3: Nelson Survin & Spildt Maelk

Toccalmatto
VIP: Sugar Kane
Session 1 & 2: Zona Cesarini
Session 1 & 3: Kaleidoscope (Evil Twin collaboration)
Session 2 & 3: Okie Matilde (Prairie collaboration)

Trois Dames
All Sessions: Sin Frontera (Crooked Stave/Jester King collaboration)
Session 1: l?Amoureuse Rouge & Saison Framboise
Session 2: l?Amoureuse Blanche & Grande Dame
Session 3: l?Amoureuse Blanche & La Tentation

Way Beer
Session 1: Sour Me Not Acerola & Amburana Barley Wine
Session 2: Sour Me Not Graviola & Purple High Five
Session 3: Sour Me Not Caju & Sour Barley Wine

Weird Beard
Session 1: Little Things That Kill & Faceless Spreadsheet Ninja
Session 2: Little Things That Kill & Sadako
Session 3: Black Perle & Double Perle

Westvleteren
All Sessions: Westvleteren XII

It may be a case of what have you done for me lately, as these are the three locals I've most recently visited, but ranking the DMV breweries, I'd have to say:

1. Ocelot
2. Bluejacket
3. *Right Proper
4 through ?: Everyone else

How do you folks see it???


*Right Proper loses a spot because my bartender was wearing a Frank Turner t-shirt.

Sorry to come bursting in here with a dumb question like Mr. Kool-aid but I have to ask: Do you beer dorks like pumpkin beer? Does anybody? I see it all over the damn place, and yet everyone I talk to says they hate it. So who's buying it? Has this been discussed to death already?

women, are buying it . . . lots and lots of women, in pajama parties while oogling at the pizza delivery guy who seems to be too darn cute to just be a pizza delivery guy.

Relaxer wrote:
Sorry to come bursting in here with a dumb question like Mr. Kool-aid but I have to ask: Do you beer dorks like pumpkin beer? Does anybody? I see it all over the damn place, and yet everyone I talk to says they hate it. So who's buying it? Has this been discussed to death already?

I tried it once and thought it was absolutely disgusting. Pump-King or whatever. Did not seem like two flavors that ever needed to go together.

Probably what's driving the nationwide pumpkin shortage:

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/33b27e191fcc40ae9151abe054c3d520/pumpkins-available-halloween-maybe-not-thanksgiving

Relaxer wrote:
Sorry to come bursting in here with a dumb question like Mr. Kool-aid but I have to ask: Do you beer dorks like pumpkin beer? Does anybody? I see it all over the damn place, and yet everyone I talk to says they hate it. So who's buying it? Has this been discussed to death already?

yes, yes, i am, yes.

beta beer nerds have jumped on the bandwagon of trashing pumpkin beer like they are answering some calling from above and now need to slam pumpkin beer every chance they get. it's becoming tiring. yeah, i don't like that it's released in July/August, either, but i'm not gonna get all bent out of shape because some suit crunched the numbers and realized that an early market push might result in higher revenue.

I've tried quite a few pumpkin beers and [glow=orange,2,300]just about all of them suck[/glow]
there is one I love called Warlock …and it's an Imperial stout…10% ABV
I have heard that the 2015 version isn't as good as past few years, but haven't tried it this year

i'm not going to go on a pseudo-religious rant against pumpkin beers, but could me as another beer drinker who has yet to find a pumpkin beer that he enjoyed.  at best they are ok.  far too many breweries overdo the spices.

my mom recently came for a visit, and knowing that i'm a beer nerd she always brings some craft beer from back home.  among the beers that she brought this time was a pumpkin beer.  i tried one, it was fine, but that's all i need to taste.  unless the missus decides she likes it, i'm going to give it away… i think i'm going to a party this weekend, i can quietly dump it there.

sweetcell wrote:
i'm not going to go on a pseudo-religious rant against pumpkin beers, but could me as another beer drinker who has yet to find a pumpkin beer that he enjoyed.  at best they are ok.  far too many breweries overdo the spices.

my mom recently came for a visit, and knowing that i'm a beer nerd she always brings some craft beer from back home.  among the beers that she brought this time was a pumpkin beer.  i tried one, it was fine, but that's all i need to taste.  unless the missus decides she likes it, i'm going to give it away… i think i'm going to a party this weekend, i can quietly dump it there.

i've got a couple i like, and far as i know, they see distribution in DC:
elysian great pumpkin
elysian punkaccino
DFH punkin
avery rumpkin
southern tier pumpking
weyerbacher imperial pumpkin

A couple that probably dont make distribution:
midnight sun TREAT
a dozen or so elysian specialty releases, including the infamous pumpkin peach amber

also not bad: pumpkin cider

I'm generally not a fan of spicy beers (I don't like winter warmers either), and not a fan of overly sweet beers (many stouts are too sweet for me, I prefer stouts that have more of a bitterness component than a sweet component). Hence my distaste for pumpkin beers. I'm equal opportunity though…I'm not much of a fan of pumpkin pie or pumpkin anything really.

was looking up details for the upcoming LOCO fest and saw they had some transportation options (good thinking boys!)

if you live in Loudon Co - $10 each way ride by Road Yachts  (would they pick you up at wiehle-reston Metro? as it's in fairfax)

and Reston limo is doing it too from Arlington /Alexandria for $39 R/T (doesn't include admission…and a little pricey IMO)


what's also nice is Reston Limo is doing a bunch of brewery tours now
https://www.restonlimo.com/services/tours-trips/brewery-tours/


also it's about a 10 mile easy bike ride from wiehle Metro

Stone Brewing barrels arriving by barge in Richmond.

^cool

also apparently we have not reached 'peak beer' yet

On September 25, the Brewers Association announced that the number of American breweries had passed 4,000, just over a year after the 3,000-brewery mark was reached

fart wrote:

avery rumpkin

This.  It is even better after a year of aging.  I also like Avery's Pump[KY]n. I had a year old one last weekend. 

rumpkin and Pump[KY]n are not standard pumpkin beers.  good for them for breaking the mold, but i think of them as barrel-aged beers (category 22C).  the barrel aging and spirit dominate (and make up for the mediocrity of the traditional "pumpkin" flavors ;D)

are they beers make with pumpkin spices?  sure.  are they what people mean when they say "pumpkin beer"?  nah.

sweetcell wrote:
rumpkin and Pump[KY]n are not standard pumpkin beers.  good for them for breaking the mold, but i think of them as barrel-aged beers (category 22C).  the barrel aging and spirit dominate (and make up for the mediocrity of the traditional "pumpkin" flavors ;D)

are they beers make with pumpkin spices?  sure.  are they what people mean when they say "pumpkin beer"?  nah.

#BJCPWNED