The Beer Thread

Space wrote:

trappe wrote:
I love that Kirsch Gose, but at $12 a 4 pack…just too pricey for a low ABV beverage

for the same price, would you rather have a tasty sub-5% beer, or a mediocre 10% monster?

i'd rather be sipping on something light and tasty when dealing with summer heat…

I'm with Sweetcell on that one. Not about how drunk the beer can get me, it's about how much taste pleasure it can provide.

Kirsch Gose gets a Space Taste Rating (STR) of 8.1 (out of 10) for me, divided by 25 cents per ounce so the Space Taste Price Quotient (STPQ)  is a highly respectable 32.4.

well, just I'm just a little more ok with paying for high ABV when there are typically more costs involved with production due to aging and higher grain/hop bill
Not necessarly how much 'bang for the buck'
I know I should be OK with the lower abv Gose/Weisse/sours since they do require a lot more deft hands to produce a quality product (and I assume there are costs I'm unaware of due to aging and fruit costs)

also, I had 4 of these on Father's day (my gift to me) and I could have easily had a few more.
as like you said, this is a great beer to keep drinking on hot days, but at that price I can't really stock the mini fridge with those (under my current fiscal constraints)

It's still cheaper than any  $10-18 bomber, by a long shot…so in retrospect there is some value there

I eagarly await the BA to add the STPQ to their ratings


lastly, I really enjoyed the Hardywood Peach Triple that I had this weekend

i have nothing against wanting more alcoholic bang for the buck.  depending on the circumstances, a high ABV beer could be the desirable choice.  what i have a problem with is when ABV is the only criteria being used, ergo a low ABV beer is never desirable and high ABV beers are always preferable…

escotilha wrote:
well, just I'm just a little more ok with paying for high ABV when there are typically more costs involved with production due to aging and higher grain/hop bill

aging adds significant cost to a beer's production cost, but grains and hops - especially grains - have less of an impact on cost than you might think. 

fixed costs make up most of the price of beer.  regardless of what beer you're brewing, most costs don't change:
- rent/lease/mortgage
- loans & interest
- staff salary and benefits
- insurance
- most taxes
- marketing
- non-production support staff
- bottling and packaging
- distribution
- etc…

i read recently that the fixed costs are often more than 80% of total cost… so doubling the cost of hops, which might be 5-10% of the total for some beers, isn't going to result in a huge increase in the overall cost.  i once asked a brewery owner why they didn't charge more for their hop-heavy big IPAs, vs. their light & almost hop-less blond ale, and he said that the extra 25-30 cents per pint he could charge wasn't worth the effort of having differently-priced beers (logistically easier for all beers to have the same price).

escotilha wrote:
I know I should be OK with the lower abv Gose/Weisse/sours since they do require a lot more deft hands to produce a quality product (and I assume there are costs I'm unaware of due to aging and fruit costs)

gose and berliners are "quick-sour beers" - they are brewed without aging, and only add a day or two to the overall timeline (although they tie up a piece of equipment, typically the kettle, while the beer is being soured).  the additional cost of brewing a gose or BW is pretty minimal.  in my opinion, they also tend to be less interesting than a long-aged sours.

I've stumbled across Founders Mosaic Promise lately.  Quite pleased with this development.

BrettnotBritt wrote:
In Ohio/WV for work and noticed Lagunitas Sucks sixers on the shelves! We have to be getting these soon, right?! I love that beer with a passion.

Also, Columbus is an AMAZING beer city. Bodhi by CBC is a Top 5 beer for me, plus I got it on draft for $5! And that was right after a glass of Alpha King.

I'll be passing through Columbus on the way to Chicago in a few weeks. Hoping to grab all the usual suspects on that trip…Zombie Dust, White Rajah, Headhunter, may shoot up to Wisconsin and grab some New Glarus…may stop at Hoof Hearted and Seventh Son in Columbus and maybe hit he new Lagunitas Brewery in chicago…but perhaps the most exciting news of that trip is….


Columbus Brewing Co. announced that its award-winning double India pale ale, Bodhi, will be offered in bottles on July 16.

bla,sé wrote:
I've stumbled across Founders Mosaic Promise lately.  Quite pleased with this development.

Its, nice.

Space wrote:

BrettnotBritt wrote:
In Ohio/WV for work and noticed Lagunitas Sucks sixers on the shelves! We have to be getting these soon, right?! I love that beer with a passion.

Also, Columbus is an AMAZING beer city. Bodhi by CBC is a Top 5 beer for me, plus I got it on draft for $5! And that was right after a glass of Alpha King.

I'll be passing through Columbus on the way to Chicago in a few weeks. Hoping to grab all the usual suspects on that trip…Zombie Dust, White Rajah, Headhunter, may shoot up to Wisconsin and grab some New Glarus…may stop at Hoof Hearted and Seventh Son in Columbus and maybe hit he new Lagunitas Brewery in chicago…but perhaps the most exciting news of that trip is….


Columbus Brewing Co. announced that its award-winning double India pale ale, Bodhi, will be offered in bottles on July 16.

:o

That is very exciting. Switched jobs so don't hit travel to OH anymore but that's a very trade-worthy beer. What's great is that a lot of Columbus bars have it on tap, too.

Checked out RAR in Cambridge, Md over the weekend.  Fun place.  Liked their American IPA (New Englandy).  Highly drinkable at 6%

BrettnotBritt wrote:

Space wrote:

BrettnotBritt wrote:
In Ohio/WV for work and noticed Lagunitas Sucks sixers on the shelves! We have to be getting these soon, right?! I love that beer with a passion.

Also, Columbus is an AMAZING beer city. Bodhi by CBC is a Top 5 beer for me, plus I got it on draft for $5! And that was right after a glass of Alpha King.

I'll be passing through Columbus on the way to Chicago in a few weeks. Hoping to grab all the usual suspects on that trip…Zombie Dust, White Rajah, Headhunter, may shoot up to Wisconsin and grab some New Glarus…may stop at Hoof Hearted and Seventh Son in Columbus and maybe hit he new Lagunitas Brewery in chicago…but perhaps the most exciting news of that trip is….


Columbus Brewing Co. announced that its award-winning double India pale ale, Bodhi, will be offered in bottles on July 16.

:o

That is very exciting. Switched jobs so don't hit travel to OH anymore but that's a very trade-worthy beer. What's great is that a lot of Columbus bars have it on tap, too.

Horrible beer. Not only is it not from Michigan, but it is from Ohio. And not only is it from Ohio, its from peak-asshole Ohio.

I'm generally not a cream ale kind of guy, but dang if this isn't quite tasty.

However, tt 5.5% abv and $15/six pack, it might make sidehutch fall behind on the mortgage payments for the McMansion.  ;)

Space wrote:McMansion. 

more of an ArbysCraftsman

so what was the STPQ on that?
You're going to have to add that to all your post now

escotilha wrote:

Space wrote:McMansion. 

more of an ArbysCraftsman

so what was the STPQ on that?
You're going to have to add that to all your post now

Same price as Kirsch Gose, about the same STR, so STPQ 32.4.

Tonight we are doing a faceoff with Founders KBS vs. Weyerbacher Sunday Morning Stout. I fully expect the KBS to have the higher STR, but it will be interesting to see which wins the STPQ as the KBS is pricier. And by "we" I could possibly mean me, as my wife is sometimes not a big stout drinker.

Then again, that's a lot of bourbon stout to drink in one 90 degree weekday evening,  we may have to spread it over two nights.

Space wrote:
Then again, that's a lot of bourbon stout to drink in one 90 degree weekday evening,  we may have to spread it over two nights.

save it for friday night then.

or, you know, man up ;D

Space wrote:
I'm generally not a cream ale kind of guy, but dang if this isn't quite tasty.

However, tt 5.5% abv and $15/six pack, it might make sidehutch fall behind on the mortgage payments for the McMansion.  ;)

Isn't Ballast Point owned by some conglomerate now?  Might as well be drinking Blue Moon…

bla,sé wrote:

Space wrote:
I'm generally not a cream ale kind of guy, but dang if this isn't quite tasty.

However, tt 5.5% abv and $15/six pack, it might make sidehutch fall behind on the mortgage payments for the McMansion.  ;)

Isn't Ballast Point owned by some conglomerate now?  Might as well be drinking Blue Moon…

Good beer is good beer.

Space wrote:
Good beer is good beer.

Exactly.

posting just cuz I thought this was a cool photo



they are doing a Adroit Theory Brewing Company‎ @Fireworks Arlington Beer Dinner
but no details other than 9/21

some of you here have refined palets…so no need for a class.
but this does sound interesting…other than being in Fairfax and in wegmans on a Thursday

I've mentioned this place before and they really have a great rotating tap list of local brews with a knowledgeable staff (IMO)

they are hosting their first fest and have the luck of facing a nice courtyard in the Tysons corner mall ( I know yuck)

Mark your calendar for the first Barrel & Bushel Virginia Craft Beer Festival! This event is bringing together more than 50 regional breweries showcasing the season's best brews! You'll be able to spend the afternoon meeting the brewers, tasting delicious handcrafted food, sampling the industry's best bourbons, listening to live music, and working on your tan. Your ticket includes a limited edition tasting glass, 2 drink tickets and some fun summer swag!

EVENT DETAILS
When
Saturday, July 16: 12pm - 7pm
Sunday, July 17: 12pm - 5pm
Where
Right outside Barrel & Bushel on the Tysons Corner Center Plaza situated between the Hyatt Regency Hotel and Lord and Taylor.

breweries
Brothers, Ocelot, Champion, Tall Tales, Bold Rock, Lickinghole Creek, Evolution, O'Connor, Flying Dog, South Street, Blue Mountain, Old Ox, Lost Rhino, Port City, Hardywood, Chaos Mountain, Devils Backbone, Fair Winds, Mad Fox, Adroit Theory, Starr Hill, DC Brau, Fordham & Dominion, Heavy Seas, Victory, Union, 3 Stars, Jailbreak, Center of the Universe, Mustang Sally, Three Notch?d, Wild Wolf, Dogfish Head, BadWolf, Parkway, Caboose, Old 690, Old Bust Head, Midnight Brewery, DuClaw, James River Brewing, Beer Hound, Forge Brew Works, Tröegs, Heritage, Jack's Hard Cider,

…no aslin :(

because when i think "dave mustaine", i think "4.5% saison" and/or "beer from quebec"… even the beer name, "a tout le monde", is totally on point!

Watch out for some exciting news people!

Dave Mustaine is getting ready to launch an exclusive Megadeth beer sensation in partnership with the world renowned Craft Brewery from Quebec, Unibroue.

Get ready for À TOUT LE MONDE coming soon in a location near you!

We look forward to telling you more about this brand new adventure launching in the coming weeks.

In the meantime, stay connected and don?t miss out!

Megadeth + Unibroue Present:
À TOUT LE MONDE, a Belgian Style Saison Ale
Coming Soon: www.megadethbeer.com 

sweetcell wrote:
because when i think "dave mustaine", i think "4.5% saison" and/or "beer from quebec"… even the beer name, "a tout le monde", is totally on point!

Watch out for some exciting news people!

Dave Mustaine is getting ready to launch an exclusive Megadeth beer sensation in partnership with the world renowned Craft Brewery from Quebec, Unibroue.

Get ready for À TOUT LE MONDE coming soon in a location near you!

We look forward to telling you more about this brand new adventure launching in the coming weeks.

In the meantime, stay connected and don?t miss out!

Megadeth + Unibroue Present:
À TOUT LE MONDE, a Belgian Style Saison Ale
Coming Soon: www.megadethbeer.com 

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