The Beer Thread

just wrote:
Is it going to be located in Hunters Point? (was speakeasy there?)


Yes.  Speakeasy is right where Evans turns into Hunter's Point Blvd, though you wouldn't recognize the area as they have torn down The Stick and building a ton of housing and neighborhoody stuff on the old shipyard site.


just wrote:reminds me how much I miss Molinari Salame and the brisket at Smokin? Warehouse Barbecue (conveniently right next to the methadone clinic…where I was a IT consultant, not a client :) )


Molinari and Sons is about a mile due south of the brewery, but that isn't the way I would go.  Safer to make it about a 1.8 mile journey around that hill.  And yes, all good stuff - haven't been down there in a while.
medeski7 wrote:
Yada wrote:
I've been twice to Owen's Ordinary and it's been terrible to say the least both times. Funny enough, they had a couple of Cantillon kegs last week. I called this weekend to see if they were still on tap. The conversation went like this.

Yada: "Hi, I was wondering if you still have the Cantillon kegs on tap?"

Owen's: "Ummmm…. what is the name of the brewery?"

Yada: "Cantillon, you had two kegs on earlier this week for the Belgian event."

Owen's: "Ummm…. Hold on one second please.
2nd Owen's Employee: "Hi, can I help you?"

Yada: "DO YOU HAVE CANTILLON ON DRAFT"

2nd Owen's Employee: "Ummm… I don't think we have that beer on draft here"

Yada: "click"


That's really surprising to me.  They did have that event and it was awesome.  The server helping my group indicated that sales were going slower than anticipated and they thought the remaining bottles were going to go to The Sovereign.  They had five Cantillon beers available, two on draft.  Everyone who was working the event seemed really knowledgeable.  We went once early and I stopped by again for a few pours later.  Two sets of servers, both really helpful and aware of what was on tap that day.  I really like that spot.


Maybe they had the A team working that day, but every time I've been there no one knows shit about beer, requesting me to order by # on the menu, and then receiving glasses full of foam.
Yada wrote:
medeski7 wrote:
Yada wrote:
I've been twice to Owen's Ordinary and it's been terrible to say the least both times. Funny enough, they had a couple of Cantillon kegs last week. I called this weekend to see if they were still on tap. The conversation went like this.

Yada: "Hi, I was wondering if you still have the Cantillon kegs on tap?"

Owen's: "Ummmm…. what is the name of the brewery?"

Yada: "Cantillon, you had two kegs on earlier this week for the Belgian event."

Owen's: "Ummm…. Hold on one second please.
2nd Owen's Employee: "Hi, can I help you?"

Yada: "DO YOU HAVE CANTILLON ON DRAFT"

2nd Owen's Employee: "Ummm… I don't think we have that beer on draft here"

Yada: "click"


That's really surprising to me.  They did have that event and it was awesome.  The server helping my group indicated that sales were going slower than anticipated and they thought the remaining bottles were going to go to The Sovereign.  They had five Cantillon beers available, two on draft.  Everyone who was working the event seemed really knowledgeable.  We went once early and I stopped by again for a few pours later.  Two sets of servers, both really helpful and aware of what was on tap that day.  I really like that spot.


Maybe they had the A team working that day, but every time I've been there no one knows shit about beer, requesting me to order by # on the menu, and then receiving glasses full of foam.


The foam thing is a real problem.  I've had a corporate event there and asked about it.  Their tap system has developed a leak that is allowing additional air into the system, per the employees I spoke to.  They are aware of the problem and really need to have the system fixed.  It's really negatively affecting the quality of the pours. 
Sad that it had to end up this way. Oh, well.
SideOfBacon wrote:
Penn Druid is making a rare tap take over in balston next week

Brewed at Right Proper - Brookland, Soused is made with juniper-infused water and a Nordic farmhouse yeast strain. Aggressively hopped with Mosaic and Comet, this IPA has huge notes of sticky orange, mango and dank juniper.

Was happy to have stopped by
I really liked Soused
the pen druid stuff was good too
Pen Druid Pluto (French Oak BA Brown Ale)
Pen Druid Sun People (Hungarian Oak BA Sour Blond Ale; Aged 1 Year)

I also had
The Veil  #ladybroznightout …which was very good


all still on tap
Want to try some more of the right proper and stone stuff I didn't get to try

I also had
The Veil  #ladybroznightout …which was very good


Yada loves this beer - talks about it constantly
brennser wrote:
I also had
The Veil  #ladybroznightout …which was very good


Yada loves this beer - talks about it constantly


Once you drink it, you're confused about which bathroom to pee in. ;D
Got a bottle of KBS at Rustico last night…although didn't really feel like it was all that and the $15 price tag  was a bit much IMO (I think they have more if you have to have one)
also a particularly bad choice after 5 mile bike ride in that heat

What I did really like was The Veil's Nice Relationship
These guys are just putting out some awesome stuff and glad they are getting on taps up here
so now that Wicked Weed is out, what other carolinian beers should i be lusting for?

a relative from Raleigh is coming to visit and has offered to mule a few bottles for me… but frankly i have no idea what to ask for.
sweetcell wrote:
so now that Wicked Weed is out, what other carolinian beers should i be lusting for?

a relative from Raleigh is coming to visit and has offered to mule a few bottles for me… but frankly i have no idea what to ask for.


Meh… not much. Maybe Burial… Maybe NoDa… probably nothing better than you can get out your front door now that you're a Pac NW resident.
an interesting and pretty lengthy article about how these buyouts are really bad for the craft industry

I think the biggest problem for the fans of craft beer is going to be access to the key ingredients to make their special swill
Shelf space in this market hasn't been a deal breaker for a lot of these great craft brewers as most sell direct to consumer (not not really ideal if you live in the middle of nowhere..but can't worry about all the people all the time)

they scraped a funny tweet WW made in 2015 about their new overlords…
sweetcell wrote:
so now that Wicked Weed is out, what other carolinian beers should i be lusting for?

a relative from Raleigh is coming to visit and has offered to mule a few bottles for me… but frankly i have no idea what to ask for.


Bond Brothers out of Raleigh
Heist and Noda out of Charlotte
Fonta Flora out of Morganton
Burial out of Asheville
Olde Hickory out of Hickory
Foothills out of Winston-Salem

https://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/state/nc/

Heist has the #11 IPA on BA, the #1 IPA not made in either VT or MA.

https://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/style/116/

Yada wrote:
earth wrote:
New brewery in Alexandria with some old roots
https://portnerbrewhouse.com/

I chatted with Space we have already agreed the place is shit.



lets be clear…neither of you have tried it
but I agree…it will probably suck


well finally made it …and you were 100% right

Modera  Pale Ale - meh
?I?d Give Up Chocolate But…? Chocolate Stout  - blah
Porter- slightly mediocre
Small Beer - almost undrinkable

only saving grace…they had a #beeritforward promotion for Vets
So I bought a beer for some vet on Monday…wish it could be better beer.
I don't care what they say…unfiltered sculpin in some pretty tasty shit.
I smell a turd.

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So does Sam.




    Hello fellow beer advocates. I know most of you are aware of the news. We found out on Friday. I have had a number of fellow beer lovers and indie craft brewers reach out to me asking how we felt about it at Dogfish and if we intended to react in any way to it. Here is our reaction:

    https://www.dogfish.com/blog/message-sam-current-ratebeer-changes

    Dogfish Head has been part of the RateBeer.com network for quite some time. In fact, we?re fans of almost all websites, magazines, newsletters and blogs that help educate the public and inspire the consumption of great beer; publications that are passionate about sharing the love for our vibrant craft brewing renaissance that is now gaining traction around the globe. For many years, RateBeer, along with entities like BeerAdvocate, All About Beer, Draft, Celebrator, Ale Street, Brewing News and many more have championed this burgeoning and blossoming craft beer community in ways that are consistent with journalistic integrity.

    We were troubled by the announcement last week that ZX Ventures, which is fully owned by the global conglomerate Anheuser-Busch InBev, has purchased a portion of RateBeer. We believe this is a direct violation of the Society of Professional Journalists (SPJ) Code of Ethics and a blatant conflict of interest. The SPJ?s Code of Ethics includes a section called ?Act Independently? and includes the following guidelines:

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    In the past, as executive editor of Pallet, a print magazine project that celebrated global craft beer culture, neither I nor Dogfish Head held any stake in the publication. As a company, Dogfish Head continually shows support for various craft beer publications through paid advertising campaigns.

    To that end, we have respectfully asked Anheuser-Busch InBev and RateBeer to remove all Dogfish Head beer reviews and mentions on the RateBeer website immediately. It just doesn?t seem right for a brewer of any kind to be in a position to potentially manipulate what consumers are hearing and saying about beers, how they are rated and which ones are receiving extra publicity on what might appear to be a legitimate, 100 percent user-generated platform. It is our opinion that this initiative and others are ethically dubious and that the lack of transparency is troubling.

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SamCalagione, Today at 12:02 AM
All bombers 20% off at Amazon Foods this weekend for FAthers Day. Space approves of this message.

I got two bombers of Rodenbach Alexander for $12.79 ea, plus a couple of Bruery bombers for around $16 each.
EBK  by Adroit Theory Brewing Company is one damn fine beer
Nice that they regularly have it on tap at Copperwood

Also picked up a four pack of this and loved it

really didn't feel like I was having a beer, but it was very refreshing