Hey Seth

I've always thought it was questionable taste to name a theater after someone that was killed in a theater. Kinda like having a Kennedy Chevrolet in Dallas.

azaghal1981 wrote:
Jaguar, Iota was the most ridiculous setting imaginable for that SotL Hammock show. I lucked out and had a bar stool but that show never should have been there.

Not many places would have been ideal for that show. My bedroom, maybe. It was kind of funny seeing people falling asleep all over the place. Definitely the quietest audience I've ever seen. Very unlike your average crowd. You could have easily heard a pin drop and people would have looked around wondering who was making all that noise.

azaghal1981 wrote:It does not excuse the douchetastic way the SotL dudes acted, though.

Okay, I must have missed something. Maybe I slept through it. They seemed quite likable to me with a good sense of humor.

Yada wrote:

Jaguar wrote:

MonkeyPants wrote:
Now that the Lincoln is going out of business, any chance of you taking it over? 

My thoughts exactly!

This would be great for shows that work best as seated shows, even if you have to concentrate on booking mostly Folk, Jazz, Blues and other laid back acts that tend to appeal to the seated crowds. I know I would have absolutely loved some nice comfy seats when I saw Hammock and Stars Of The Lid. Those bands put you right to sleep, in a good way.

If anybody can bring that place back up to snuff and turn it back into a success, it's you Sir Seth. Come on, you know you can do it.  ;)

I heard the DC Govt is funding Live Nation to put a DC Fillmore in there.  :o

I'LL SUE!!!

Jaguar wrote:

azaghal1981 wrote:
Jaguar, Iota was the most ridiculous setting imaginable for that SotL Hammock show. I lucked out and had a bar stool but that show never should have been there.

Not many places would have been ideal for that show. My bedroom, maybe. It was kind of funny seeing people falling asleep all over the place. Definitely the quietest audience I've ever seen. Very unlike your average crowd. You could have easily heard a pin drop and people would have looked around wondering who was making all that noise.

azaghal1981 wrote:It does not excuse the douchetastic way the SotL dudes acted, though.

Okay, I must have missed something. Maybe I slept through it. They seemed quite likable to me with a good sense of humor.

They were being snarky about it. At one point, one of them mumbled something to the effect of "a classical ensemble in a rock club. Here's another hit." There were a couple other comments like that.

from CityPaper blog:
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/housingcomplex/2011/09/27/do-rock-clubs-have-to-be-daytime-blights/

man, this dude hurt from my feelings…

"The 9:30 club is a dump, both inside and out.
Hurwitz should be ashamed of himself, foistering this grungy dump on music-hungry fans.
I have been to rock clubs in several cities, and some of them are very well maintained and offer fan amenities that Seth should have invested in long ago. So I welcome venues such as Birchmere and the new Fillmore in Silver Spring. I know where I will spend my money."

Seth wrote:
from CityPaper blog:
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/housingcomplex/2011/09/27/do-rock-clubs-have-to-be-daytime-blights/

man, this dude hurt from my feelings…

"The 9:30 club is a dump, both inside and out.
Hurwitz should be ashamed of himself, foistering this grungy dump on music-hungry fans.
I have been to rock clubs in several cities, and some of them are very well maintained and offer fan amenities that Seth should have invested in long ago. So I welcome venues such as Birchmere and the new Fillmore in Silver Spring. I know where I will spend my money."

YIKES!! Just think what he would've written had he witnessed the original 930 location!!!  :o

The venue is simply bricks and mortar…..it's the staph and fellow patrons that make it a show. I've come across the odd pretentious wanker on the 930 staph but they are a tiny majority. 930 is the best place I've ever been to see a show….including the Hacienda in manc. (too many drugs for me in that place)

There's no other place I would've let my (then) 14 year old daughter in to see a show without me being with her (I waited outside) than the the 930, thanks to Josh and the gang….

Seth, I don't know what you do…..but keep doing it mate!

Seth wrote:
man, this dude hurt from my feelings…

Don't let it.
The place is not a dump. This person obviously is going to some squeaky clean "venue" vs. an actual music club. Just think F St. (well, the person might be thinking about that venue and smell, but I digress) and know you set the tone and standard for everyone in this area who is trying to run an actual music nightclub. Birchmere learned probably from RHT and FSS learned from the local mall. Your ideas and clubs are not just bars, or karaoke clubs; they are clean, safe, friendly and always have a great artist on stage.
Sound and lights have always been stellar. Intimate places are few and far between for big name acts these days. Your club is still intimate, laid back and rock without being sterile and mass produced. Even with the modern additions of food, various beverages, multiple bars and cupcakes. Chin up, Seth.
(and what Mankie said about kids and all ages!)
(edit: and Bags/Jags/Seth to thank for stall hooks!)

Of course the DC government should not subsidize a DC Fillmore but they DO subsidize the Lincoln Theatre ..thats the problem.. they've been doing it for a long time and the place needs to change.. they are open just a few nights a month it seems…

It would be a shame to lose the Lincoln Theatre just as the Howard is being readied to reopen…

That City Paper blog entry as a whole is fucking stupid.

I feel better now, thanks

every now & then, I get asked by some dc govt type what I would do with the Lincoln

I think it should be turned back into a great movie theater, with occasional shows…what a home run that would be

Seth wrote:
I feel better now, thanks

every now & then, I get asked by some dc govt type what I would do with the Lincoln

I think it should be turned back into a great movie theater, with occasional shows…what a home run that would be

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Seth wrote:
from CityPaper blog:
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/housingcomplex/2011/09/27/do-rock-clubs-have-to-be-daytime-blights/

man, this dude hurt from my feelings…

"The 9:30 club is a dump, both inside and out.
Hurwitz should be ashamed of himself, foistering this grungy dump on music-hungry fans.
I have been to rock clubs in several cities, and some of them are very well maintained and offer fan amenities that Seth should have invested in long ago. So I welcome venues such as Birchmere and the new Fillmore in Silver Spring. I know where I will spend my money."

I'd be more ashamed for using the word "foistering" in a public forum, but that's just me.

i didn't bother to comment earlier but the 930 Club is the best music venue I have been in… the staff are excellent, the sound is great, things are professionally run, etc

the 930- and more broadly IMP- is one of the best things about DC actually…

Seth wrote:
I feel better now, thanks

every now & then, I get asked by some dc govt type what I would do with the Lincoln

I think it should be turned back into a great movie theater, with occasional shows…what a home run that would be

That's what I wanted to do with the old Vienna movie theater. Coffee by day, then movies or shows by night. Then it became a Lens Crafters, now a bike shop. And, Jammin Java took over the Christian music place so…DO it, Seth. It will be like having grandkids! You have to start to find a protege by some point right? Have a contest to search.
I agree with the comment that IMP makes DC events (Md/Va) a whole lot better.  When I find issues with other events / venues in other states it's b/c they lack the mgmt/ideas and your staph.

azaghal1981 wrote:
They were being snarky about it. At one point, one of them mumbled something to the effect of "a classical ensemble in a rock club. Here's another hit." There were a couple other comments like that.

I remember them joking about that but didn't in the very least perceive it as snarky. In fact, I thought it was very funny and that they saw the irony of how super laid back their music is compared to the normal shows we all tend to see. If anything, I thought that they were taking the piss on themselves about being a very under the radar band and also about how opposite they are from a 'hit' kind of band. The last thing you are ever going to do is rock out to any of their music. It made me like them even more.

Seth wrote:
I think it should be turned back into a great movie theater, with occasional shows…what a home run that would be

Do it, Seth! Do it!  ;D

That would be ideal and add yet more variety to what you have to offer. I was thinking even adding a few live theater performances as they come around. More of an off off Broadway type with either a hipster and/or an historical edge. Kind of a mini Kennedy Center for the common folk and less mainstream performers. Maybe even host a few speakers.

Congratulations Seth, on your new baby.  :D


Oh, btw… I would bet that that fool is just some FSS investor who is pissed off because the 930 Club is still blowing away their new silver spoon feed baby Huey. Just because they built it doesn't mean that they will come. You, of all people, well know it takes much, much more than that…. without the payoffs.

Seth wrote:
from CityPaper blog:
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/housingcomplex/2011/09/27/do-rock-clubs-have-to-be-daytime-blights/

man, this dude hurt from my feelings…

"The 9:30 club is a dump, both inside and out.
Hurwitz should be ashamed of himself, foistering this grungy dump on music-hungry fans.
I have been to rock clubs in several cities, and some of them are very well maintained and offer fan amenities that Seth should have invested in long ago. So I welcome venues such as Birchmere and the new Fillmore in Silver Spring. I know where I will spend my money."

I have no idea in hell what he is basing his opinion on but I find that what you get out a club (or any other business) is what you go in there looking for.  I have been going to the 930 since the days of henry rollins with mother superior.  I have ALWAYS been treated like I was a guest and one that was very welcome to be there.  When it was one of my first shows and I was using my digital camera on video mode (not knowing the rules back then), Josh came up to me and told me I needed to give up the camera and pick it up on the way out.  Even in that situation I was treated well and not made to feel like I was fucking up and better be careful.  I have been to venues from Cleveland to Ft Lauderdale and many places between.  No other club is run like the 930 club and I would pick it as my venue of choice ANY time.  Lastly, when I brought my dad to a show back a while ago, Josh, Jennifer, Justin, and the rest of the staph treated him like he was a patron from the day one of the club.  They made that night an extremely memorable one for me as it was the beginning of me dad and me starting to rebuild our relationship.  So thanks to all of you at the club.  Thanks Seth for having a place where this can happen.  Thanks Josh for running the 'security' the way you do.  Thanks to Jennifer, Justin and all of the rest of you for making my dad feel like he was part of the 930 family.  This is why Kim and I drive up there from Richmond to see shows.  You treat us very well (even when Kim does start bar fights)!

people who write have opinions . . . like on here.  the end.

Jaguar wrote:

Seth wrote:
I think it should be turned back into a great movie theater, with occasional shows…what a home run that would be

That would be ideal and add yet more variety to what you have to offer. I was thinking even adding a few live theater performances as they come around. More of an off off Broadway type with either a hipster and/or an historical edge. Kind of a mini Kennedy Center for the common folk and less mainstream performers. Maybe even host a few speakers.

I was thinking this too..a different market…book talks or something…Like when Josh Ritter came through played some songs and read from his book…Or John Waters' Christmas, etc. Lord knows we are limited with book stores now for in-stores
Music documentaries…give AFI a run and be a part of FilmFest…
Oh and hang some artwork for sale (local or nat'l or musicians - many are also artists). Nat'l Geographic had musicians who take photos talk cost some $ too..okay, I'm stretching the ideas, but that one was a part of my coffee shop by day idea…

^ You and I are of the very same mind.  ;) ;D

I'd even like to see a ballet in there. A punk rock ballet would be really cool. Of course, it's up to some dance troupe to get that all together. Then Seth would host and promote the show.

Being in DC, book talks should do well. Sort of a low end and more open minded National Press Club sort of thing.

Also think that they could partner with Howard University for some good ethnic African American artsy things.