Got wrote:
how 'bout The Jesus Lizard
What!?! Are they back together? I'd be down for that.
What!?! Are they back together? I'd be down for that.
Hey Seth
What!?! Are they back together? I'd be down for that.
How about Jawbreaker and the Jesus Lizard at Anthem?
bearman🐻 wrote:FTFY
How about Jawbreakerand the Jesus Lizard at Anthemanywhere?
Hey Seth, please bring back the set times! Either post on the site like you used to or post on Twitter (like RNR Hotel and Black Cat do).
I have a fucked work schedule and sometimes am still at work at 10pm or am actually going into work at 9pm. So yeah, knowing the set times would be good for UHall, 930 and Anthem shows.
Plus, some of us still actually take the metro and it'd be good to know if I can make the last train back home after a show or should budget for a cab/uber.
And consider this: some of us try to pack in two shows at your venues in the same night. I'll start with UHall and then move to the 930. Would be good to know if I can comfortably make both shows.
I have a fucked work schedule and sometimes am still at work at 10pm or am actually going into work at 9pm. So yeah, knowing the set times would be good for UHall, 930 and Anthem shows.
Plus, some of us still actually take the metro and it'd be good to know if I can make the last train back home after a show or should budget for a cab/uber.
And consider this: some of us try to pack in two shows at your venues in the same night. I'll start with UHall and then move to the 930. Would be good to know if I can comfortably make both shows.
+1
Would love to have set times back. It's incredibly helpful given my work schedule.
Would love to have set times back. It's incredibly helpful given my work schedule.
Julian, wrote:Seth wrote:
Tell me how the set times helps you exactly
Set times help determine whether a show fits my erratic work schedule. They also help determine the manner of transportation.
Without set times I am unlikely to gamble on whether these needs can be accommodated.
Without set times I am unlikely to gamble on whether these needs can be accommodated.
Set times are extremely important, and 9:30 was the first to provide them. Now many clubs do. So what would be the reason to retreat on valued aspect of I.M.P.'s service?
Often knowing set times (not just "show time," that says nothing at all…l) dictates when you have to leave work, what transportation you will be able to use, when you can meet friends, whether you can fit dinner in.
Again, my biggest question is why stop now after listing set times for a dozen years?
Often knowing set times (not just "show time," that says nothing at all…l) dictates when you have to leave work, what transportation you will be able to use, when you can meet friends, whether you can fit dinner in.
Again, my biggest question is why stop now after listing set times for a dozen years?
Bags wrote:The simplest answer is usually the correct one: Seth does not care about his customers or music; he only cares about squeezing every last penny out of people. This is his prerogative as a business person.
Again, my biggest question is why stop now after listing set times for a dozen years?
Julian, wrote:Bags wrote:The simplest answer is usually the correct one: Seth does not care about his customers or music; he only cares about squeezing every last penny out of people. This is his prerogative as a business person.
Again, my biggest question is why stop now after listing set times for a dozen years?
If he stepped up his beer game instead of offering the same garbage beers year after year, I might be inspired to go early to a show. As it is, I'd rather sit home and play with my pets until the last minutes.
Geez..tough crowd…
hutch wrote:
Geez..tough crowd…
We're seasoned veterans. Some of us aren't so young anymore. It takes more to get us to make the time to see concerts, especially after a long crappy day dealing with nonsense at work. And I'm getting to the point where I need some incentive to find the energy and spend the money/time and be around hordes of people elbowing me and spilling beer on me. Maybe that sounds like an old fart but I don't give a rat's ass. It's a business…keeping customers happy is part of the deal.
Hey i hear you..but the 930 has crap beer too? Also they had set times up for many years so i doubt it is all about the benjamins ….UStreet has set times up for tonight st etienne btw
hutch wrote:
Hey i hear you..but the 930 has crap beer too? Also they had set times up for many years so i doubt it is all about the benjamins ….UStreet has set times up for tonight st etienne btw
Ah, I can't comment on the beer thing. I'm not a big beer drinker.
All I can say is that I miss seeing those set times…it really takes away a variable that can make or break an entire evening for me. This is a city that is ruled by calendars. Minutes in the day really do count here. It's a Type A city where you fight to make the time to actually break from routines you get stuck in. And I am not saying I don't value Seth's ability to give us top notch shows. But it's just frustrating because I find myself doing less because I don't want to take that chance that I have to throw a ticket away. That's all.
Per usual, I agree with Bearman heartily. To Julian's purely provocative response, how does not posting set times help the club, make money, or do anything really? Sure, it could be off a bit, but I'd think folks who know enough to look at the website for set times are savvy enough to know that it's the schedule, and the best estimation that can be made in advance.
Bags wrote:
Per usual, I agree with Bearman heartily. To Julian's purely provocative response, how does not posting set times help the club, make money, or do anything really? Sure, it could be off a bit, but I'd think folks who know enough to look at the website for set times are savvy enough to know that it's the schedule, and the best estimation that can be made in advance.
That's a failed Jules' troll attempt.
Bags wrote:
how does not posting set times help the club, make money, or do anything really?
I already told you all here:
vansmack wrote:
Seth wants you in there spending money on his food and drink, so if he doesn't post the set times, your concern over missing the headliner will have you there early, presumably spending money.
Makes perfect business sense to me.
Classic Seth.
If it is so classic seth he would have done it years ago…right?
Thinking this through:
Ultimately, the logic is that the buyer won't make a purchase/no purchase decision due to set-times (late-shows/early-shows excluded) because set-times were typically not announced until the day of the show. Us show-goers, and the younger folks that replace us over time, are going to purchase tickets to shows that they want to see, and if no set-time is ever posted, we/and those that follow us, are just going to show up on time to try to make sure that we/they see the part of the show we want to see.
So giving us notice of the set-times is something that IMP/930 does for us [glow=red,2,300]that is nice for it to do[/glow], but it is not really necessary or a "whether to buy a ticket" decision point for us. And it may make IMP/930 slightly more money if we are in the club longer, and makes the openers happier that there is a larger crowd present (though, does anyone really care about making the openers happy?)
The thing is that IMP/930 does nice things for us that it doesn't need to do (formerly posting set-times), FWB, World's fair, some presales, this BBS, and the like, that it doesn't have to do, and because of that it is hard to understand why IMP/930 would stop doing a nice thing for us that it didn't ever need to do and it causes this dissonance.
Or
Ultimately, the logic is that the buyer won't make a purchase/no purchase decision due to set-times (late-shows/early-shows excluded) because set-times were typically not announced until the day of the show. Us show-goers, and the younger folks that replace us over time, are going to purchase tickets to shows that they want to see, and if no set-time is ever posted, we/and those that follow us, are just going to show up on time to try to make sure that we/they see the part of the show we want to see.
So giving us notice of the set-times is something that IMP/930 does for us [glow=red,2,300]that is nice for it to do[/glow], but it is not really necessary or a "whether to buy a ticket" decision point for us. And it may make IMP/930 slightly more money if we are in the club longer, and makes the openers happier that there is a larger crowd present (though, does anyone really care about making the openers happy?)
The thing is that IMP/930 does nice things for us that it doesn't need to do (formerly posting set-times), FWB, World's fair, some presales, this BBS, and the like, that it doesn't have to do, and because of that it is hard to understand why IMP/930 would stop doing a nice thing for us that it didn't ever need to do and it causes this dissonance.
Or
I was thinking about this on the way home.
Not knowing set times will definitely reduce the number of last-minute shows I attend, but (as posted above) if it's something I wanna see, I'll still buy tix in advance and will be sure to show up on time.
It would be different if there were decent seating options. Much happier to arrive early if I can sit in the spot I'll be catching the show from. Sadly, I'm not 22 anymore and do try to cut down on standing time at shows. Perhaps this is how old folks like me get weeded out of club shows.
Not knowing set times will definitely reduce the number of last-minute shows I attend, but (as posted above) if it's something I wanna see, I'll still buy tix in advance and will be sure to show up on time.
It would be different if there were decent seating options. Much happier to arrive early if I can sit in the spot I'll be catching the show from. Sadly, I'm not 22 anymore and do try to cut down on standing time at shows. Perhaps this is how old folks like me get weeded out of club shows.