This week rollcall

Oh shit. Sorry.

"My trans kid and I…"

heilung4eva wrote:
Oh shit. Sorry.

"My trans kid and I…"

Whew. We were about to have the vapors.

heilung4eva wrote:

Space wrote:

sweetcell wrote:

Space wrote:

Yada wrote:

Space wrote:

Yada wrote:
Hurray for the Riff Raff - maybe

Sold out show

Oh i'm aware space… new album is A+

I saw her for free at Millenium Stage last year….was good but wasn't planning on seeing her again so soon. After hearing the new album, almost wish i had gotten a ticket for this show.

"them"

I respect her right to refer to herself as whatever she likes, but I'm not mangling the English language on her behalf.

Whatever man. Choose your hill to die on. Me and my trans kid will shed a tear for you.

Does your trans kid also identify as non-binary?

Yes. Though honestly, I don't feel accountable to you and I don't feel like I'm compelled to answer your questions. Talk to me after you install version 2.0

Space wrote:

I respect her right to refer to herself as whatever she likes, but…

But you don't.

Justin wrote:

Space wrote:

I respect her right to refer to herself as whatever she likes, but…

But you don't.

You don't know me.

Space wrote:

Justin wrote:

Space wrote:

I respect her right to refer to herself as whatever she likes, but…

But you don't.

You don't know me.

Call me crazy…does the word "but" seem to negate everything that preceded it? 

bearman🐻 wrote:

Space wrote:

Justin wrote:

Space wrote:

I respect her right to refer to herself as whatever she likes, but…

But you don't.

You don't know me.

Call me crazy…does the word "but" seem to negate everything that preceded it?

I said I respect her right to call herself whatever she wants. Clearly, she can. I'm not telling her she can't.

But don't create rules to force me to use language that I'm not comfortable with and get all judgey about it.. If you do, you're just as bad as a creepy conservative forcing their rules on me and getting all judgey about it.

For the record, Americans are pretty split on using gender neutral pronouns. And you shaming them is not going to change their minds.

https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/43310-how-americans-gender-neutral-pronouns-2022-poll

Space being concerned about mangling the English language is such sweet irony.

Cock wrote:
Space being concerned about mangling the English language is such sweet irony.

It is apparently more important to protect the sanctity of the language than it is to respect other people's identity. I didn't realize Space has been such a lifelong hardcore prescriptivist. I bet he bristles whenever the OED releases their "new words of the year" list.

heilung4eva wrote:

Cock wrote:
Space being concerned about mangling the English language is such sweet irony.

It is apparently more important to protect the sanctity of the language than it is to respect other people's identity. I didn't realize Space has been such a lifelong hardcore prescriptivist. I bet he bristles whenever the OED releases their "new words of the year" list.

I thought I was gonna make a snarky remark about "adulting" not being in The OED (as in "thankfully,…"), but it is! >:( It dates back just over 100 years.

1909 intransitive verb. To become, be, or behave as an adult; (now) esp. to carry out the mundane or everyday tasks that are a necessary part of adult life…

1921 noun. The action or process of becoming, being, or behaving as an adult; (now) esp. the carrying out of the mundane or everyday tasks that are a necessary…

(But don't tell Windows, which just put a red squiggle under the word)

heilung4eva wrote:

Cock wrote:
Space being concerned about mangling the English language is such sweet irony.

It is apparently more important to protect the sanctity of the language than it is to respect other people's identity. I didn't realize Space has been such a lifelong hardcore prescriptivist. I bet he bristles whenever the OED releases their "new words of the year" list.

While the English language does not have a unique gender-neutral third-person singular pronoun, they has been used to identify singular persons in speech, popular literature, and dictionary reference materials since at least the 12th century. In fact, singular use of  they has been officially recognized as correct  by several key bodies such as the Associated Press, American Psychological Association (APA)  and Modern Language Association (MLA), the Oxford English Dictionary, and the Merriam-Webster Dictionary.

https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/general_writing/grammar/pronouns/gendered_pronouns_and_singular_they.html#:~:text=While%20the%20English%20language%20does,at%20least%20the%2012th%20century.

gavroche wrote:

heilung4eva wrote:

Cock wrote:
Space being concerned about mangling the English language is such sweet irony.

It is apparently more important to protect the sanctity of the language than it is to respect other people's identity. I didn't realize Space has been such a lifelong hardcore prescriptivist. I bet he bristles whenever the OED releases their "new words of the year" list.

While the English language does not have a unique gender-neutral third-person singular pronoun

wouldn't that be "it"?

he walks, she walks, it walks?

not that anyone would want to be referred to as "it", IMO…

All,

I'm sorry I'm a Hurray for the Riff Raff fan

sweetcell wrote:

gavroche wrote:

heilung4eva wrote:

Cock wrote:
Space being concerned about mangling the English language is such sweet irony.

It is apparently more important to protect the sanctity of the language than it is to respect other people's identity. I didn't realize Space has been such a lifelong hardcore prescriptivist. I bet he bristles whenever the OED releases their "new words of the year" list.

While the English language does not have a unique gender-neutral third-person singular pronoun

wouldn't that be "it"?

he walks, she walks, it walks?

not that anyone would want to be referred to as "it", IMO…

According to the internet, some actually do prefer "it."

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-some-people-want-their-pronouns-to-be-it

Yada wrote:
All,

I'm sorry I'm a Hurray for the Riff Raff fan

It was so much easier when people called themselves "tomboys." Sigh.

Space wrote:

Yada wrote:
All,

I'm sorry I'm a Hurray for the Riff Raff fan

It was so much easier when people called themselves "tomboys." Sigh.

HOW DARE YOU USE SUCH OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE I HAVE A FRIEND NAMED TOM AND HE'S A BOY AND I CAN ASSURE YOU HE HAS DONE NOTHING TO WARRANT SUCH RACISM, XENOPHOBIA AND CAPITALISM!!!111

While I am neither Riff nor Raff, I am happy to use your chosen name if that's how you identify.

"If my words did glow with the gold of sunshine
And my tunes were played on the harp unstrung"

These "Ripple" lyrics swirl around my brain everytime I hear the masterfully plucked strings of Mikaela Davis.

Looking for a good home for one or two tix to her Atlantis show tomorrow evening

Mary Timony