What Are You Listening To?

Hutches favorite Kurt Vile sitting in tonight on Zurich is Stained.

Geoff's? Blasphemy!

this sounds interesting, is it any good?

8.David Byrne and Devo - Empire

King wrote:
this sounds interesting, is it any good?

8.David Byrne and Devo - Empire

Yeah it jumped out at me and I was trying to figure out if it was a new version or not

Adrian Quesada’s 'Boleros Psicodélicos’  ACL set with some amazing singers and band… everything is better with marimba

82nd all time highest rated album on rate your music

I used to have an Argentine copy but it was stolen or went moldy in storage…this was twenty one years ago…broke my ❤️

It’s interesting reading Stephen Morris’ bio how much Can influenced him; both the Can drummer AND keyboardist …it was the same with Lydon and hell even Malkmus…When I listen to Can I like it and it sounds dope but I just don’t hear that…clearly need to do more drugs… and I need more krautrock

144th highest rated album on RYM.

Malkmus did a cover of this album but my copy is so warped it’s unplayable.

Joy Division live Wycombe 2-20-1980

I guess I never noticed-stupid me- that live on certain songs Sumner playsthe keyboard so no guitar….causereading theMorris book Ian really hated playing guitar and wasn’t good at it

This concert comes with the two cd expanded Still. Like all their live recordings- and there are so many- it’s fantastic….just no indication Ian was struggling with epileptic fits

Starsky wrote:Quote from: Starsky on 12-10-2022, 14:38:04

I guess I never noticed-stupid me- that live on certain songs Sumner playsthe keyboard so no guitar….causereading theMorris book Ian really hated playing guitar and wasn’t good at it

Man was just listening to the live one included the Unknown pleasures (collectors edt)  which is the April 1980 show at Manchester
(I agree, I'm amazed how good some of their live recordings are(well the bass never sounds as good as the recorded versions))

for a second I thought you were saying that Ian played guitar on the live versions..and I was like No fucking way
the end of that show is Novelty -> Transmission…jez Bernie is a fucking guitar god
possibly two of my favorite JD songs
their non album tracks are really some of their best stuff and substance is essential addition to their collection

but re read it and you said only on the closer songs that had keyboard
I mean LWTUAA is all bass, keys and drums….only that guitar in the intro
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Sumner was such a great guitarist in Joy Division and early New Order. Fantastic guitar tone which can sound really harsh and menacing and crunchy. I love it. He is the ultimate post punk guitarist to me. It’s a true mark of his genius he got bored of guitar and got obsessed with synths and technology and kept growing but something was lost too. His guitar playing became very sedate and pretty as the 80s went on and he clearly got bored with the guitar. Same expanding horizons with Stephen Morris who also really got into digital sound, drum machines etc. They really took New order to a different level. None of this is meant to diminish Hook whose bass overlaid perfectly over the Morris/Sumner music. Never quite sure what Gillian does…or did on the albums; from Hook’s telling nothing! Maybe Morris’ second volume will explain this…it’s clear they needed her initially to play guitar so Sumner could focus more on singing and synths.

The other thing I can’t get over is how Morris claims coming up with the name new order had nothing to do with the third reich’s “new order for Europe”… I just don’t find it credible given Sumner and Curtis came up with Joy Division from a Holocaust survivor’s novella. It’s just such a bizarre coincidence that Joy Division had gotten flak for the name, some artwork, a crazy quote from Sumner introducing a song at a show AND by weird coincidence came up with the name for the Nazi’s reorganization of Europe but that’s their story!! In the Joy Division pictures Sumner looks like he lifted his dress from Germans, etc.

Also from Morris’ book it’s clear the band was split from Ian. It was Ian and the rest. Curtis always got the nicer rooms when traveling and many fans really were almost more Ian fans than Joy Division. It seems plausible that had Ian lived he would have gone solo after The Closer tour. Or maybe there would have been one more album but that’s it.

since we're going on and on about JD/NO:

Depeche Mode Fan Throws a Roll of Film on Stage and the Band Mails Photos Back to Him

The Cure, Disintegration

Wow, I am back in high school again, not knowing if I am gay or straight, and questioning the reasons to live.

Thanks, Robert . . . for controlling my youth emotions.

Starsky wrote:
the end of that show is Novelty -> Transmission…jez Bernie is a fucking guitar god
possibly two of my favorite JD songs

found this out today…is it worth seeking a recording of this?

Transmission was played by The Smashing Pumpkins on their Adore Tour in 1998, with performances of the song usually lasting from 15 to 25 minutes
for some reason I could see the pumpkins fans not even knowing this was a JD song


Ok this is cool…hooky joined them onstage for this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMTlhowCuBo
edit…kinda meh
hooky looking like Space with orange shirt and cargo shorts…looks funny with the others all in black

ok this one is kinda cool and total reworking of the song
https://youtu.be/o5VmkUqhGlM
but its got no bass chops at all

Walk,on,by wrote: not knowing if I am gay or straight, and questioning the reasons to live.

Don’t leave us hanging: did you ever figure any of this out?

Peter Hook’s son is the bassist in Smashing Pumpkins

Julian, wrote:

Walk,on,by wrote: not knowing if I am gay or straight, and questioning the reasons to live.

Don’t leave us hanging: did you ever figure any of this out?

I am both gay and straight at the same time. When I left high school, I was indeed, finally alive.

Walk,on,by wrote:
I am both gay and straight at the same time.

Schrodinger's ho

sweetcell wrote:

Walk,on,by wrote:
I am both gay and straight at the same time.

Schrodinger's ho

LMFAO