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RustyOrgan
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Re: Just Announced March 03, 2011 at 03:20 AM UTC #
Anyone want to go in on flying out some al-Qa'ida to take care of this show?

Sieve-Fisted wrote:
Outlaw Jam at Frederick Fairgrounds
July 30th
MÖTLEY CRÜE
POISON
Brian_Walalce
Joined: May 16, 2005 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 1484
Re: Just Announced March 03, 2011 at 02:09 PM UTC #
RustyOrgan wrote:
Anyone want to go in on flying out some al-Qa'ida to take care of this show?

Sieve-Fisted wrote:
Outlaw Jam at Frederick Fairgrounds
July 30th
MÖTLEY CRÜE
POISON



You know who is opening for that tour?  The New York Dolls.  Of course, seeing the "New York Dolls" now is like seeing "Guns N Roses."  It's really just the lead singer and some hired hands.

You could make a good case though, that Motley Crue, Poison AND Guns N Roses may not have existed without the New York Dolls.

Stunning admission to make, I know.  One "old" band Brian Wallace likes: The New York Dolls.

Brian
James Ford
Joined: July 22, 2009 at 09:02 PM UTC
Posts: 5620
Re: Just Announced March 03, 2011 at 02:22 PM UTC #

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrhf_zgtmAg

Brian_Wallace wrote:
RustyOrgan wrote:
Anyone want to go in on flying out some al-Qa'ida to take care of this show?

Sieve-Fisted wrote:
Outlaw Jam at Frederick Fairgrounds
July 30th
MÖTLEY CRÜE
POISON



You know who is opening for that tour?  The New York Dolls.  Of course, seeing the "New York Dolls" now is like seeing "Guns N Roses."  It's really just the lead singer and some hired hands.

You could make a good case though, that Motley Crue, Poison AND Guns N Roses may not have existed without the New York Dolls.

Stunning admission to make, I know.  One "old" band Brian Wallace likes: The New York Dolls.

Brian
sweetcell
Joined: July 18, 2006 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 22608
Re: Just Announced March 03, 2011 at 02:52 PM UTC #
dammit - why wasn't this announced earlier?  we might have been able to get smackie out for this…

Rival Schools w/Police & Thieves, and Radar Fiction
RnR hotel
Sunday March 6

(also: Maps & Atlases on Thursday April 21; and kosmo will be pleased to hear about Someone Still Loves You Boris Yeltsin on Sunday May 1).

Brian_Wallace wrote:
You could make a good case though, that Motley Crue, Poison AND Guns N Roses may not have existed without the New York Dolls.

Stunning admission to make, I know.  One "old" band Brian Wallace likes: The New York Dolls.

Brian

see?  this is why it's so hard to take you seriously.

you wail against grunge band X because they were responsible for spawning crappy band Y, or 70's metal band Z because they led to grunge band X… yet you can abide by the new york dolls (whose music is certifiable bad; in addition to bringing us those three bands that you hate).
nkotb
Joined: August 15, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 6500
Re: Just Announced March 03, 2011 at 02:54 PM UTC #
NY Dolls are bad?!?!  That may be one of the wrongest things I've ever read on this board.

sweetcell wrote:
yet you can abide by the new york dolls (whose music is certifiable bad; in addition to bringing us those three bands that you hate).
James Ford
Joined: July 22, 2009 at 09:02 PM UTC
Posts: 5620
Re: Just Announced March 03, 2011 at 02:56 PM UTC #
I know nkotb has more cred than allmusic, but I'll add almusic's five star (out of five) review of their debut to the argument:

There are hints of girl group pop and more than a hint of the Rolling Stones, but The New York Dolls doesn't really sound like anything that came before it. It's hard rock with a self-conscious wit, a celebration of camp and kitsch that retains a menacing, malevolent edge. The New York Dolls play as if they can barely keep the music from falling apart and David Johansen sings and screams like a man possessed. The New York Dolls is a noisy, reckless album that rocks and rolls with a vengeance. The Dolls rework old Chuck Berry and Stones riffs, playing them with a sloppy, violent glee. "Personality Crisis," "Looking for a Kiss," and "Trash" strut with confidence, while "Vietnamese Baby" and "Frankenstein" sound otherworldly, working the same frightening drone over and over again. The New York Dolls is the definitive proto-punk album, even more than anything the Stooges released. It plunders history while celebrating it, creating a sleazy urban mythology along the way.

kosmo
Joined: September 23, 1999 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 16329
Re: Just Announced March 03, 2011 at 03:37 PM UTC #
Wanders off to remove sweetcell from christmas card list, primarily for not knowing that new york dolls were a key catalyst for a little movement called punk. 
nkotb
Joined: August 15, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 6500
Re: Just Announced March 03, 2011 at 03:44 PM UTC #
That may be one of the rightest things I've ever read on this board.

James wrote:
nkotb has more cred than allmusic
James Ford
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Posts: 5620
Re: Just Announced March 03, 2011 at 04:13 PM UTC #
Some would argue that's not a good thing…

kosmo wrote:
Wanders off to remove sweetcell from christmas card list, primarily for not knowing that new york dolls were a key catalyst for a little movement called punk. 
ggw
Joined: December 16, 2001 at 06:01 AM UTC
Posts: 14237
Re: Just Announced March 03, 2011 at 04:44 PM UTC #
Some are stupid…
redsock
Joined: February 20, 2002 at 06:01 AM UTC
Posts: 1893
Re: Just Announced March 03, 2011 at 05:04 PM UTC #
sweetcell wrote:
dammit - why wasn't this announced earlier?  we might have been able to get smackie out for this…

Rival Schools w/Police & Thieves, and Radar Fiction
RnR hotel
Sunday March 6



It was. Smackie apparently chose not to come. Being the only other Rival Schools supporter on the board, I will be there in a drunken bliss.

vansmack wrote:
redsock wrote:
Few are as excited as I am about this but:

Rival Schools
RNR Hotel
3/6

Not a fan of the venue or the Sunday night but having them in DC is worth it.


Hmm, smackie's birthday week…..
Thousand Made-Up Loves
Joined: September 14, 2008 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 1551
Re: Just Announced March 03, 2011 at 05:16 PM UTC #
Brian_Wallace wrote:
You could make a good case though, that Motley Crue, Poison AND Guns N Roses may not have existed without the New York Dolls.


Pretty much. GNR's cover of Human Being is STILL awesome.
azaghal1981
Joined: June 17, 2004 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 12035
Re: Just Announced March 03, 2011 at 05:30 PM UTC #
Damn…

Pharoah Sanders and the Howard University Jazz Ensemble
Andrew Rankin Memorial Chapel

In…about 10 minutes.

How did I miss this until now?
Brian_Walalce
Joined: May 16, 2005 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 1484
Re: Just Announced March 03, 2011 at 05:35 PM UTC #
Thousand wrote:
Brian_Wallace wrote:
You could make a good case though, that Motley Crue, Poison AND Guns N Roses may not have existed without the New York Dolls.


Pretty much. GNR's cover of Human Being is STILL awesome.


This.

Brian
killsaly
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Re: Just Announced March 03, 2011 at 07:06 PM UTC #
Thrushes, The Sky Drops, Sleepy Vikings
Metro Gallery
June 17


beetsnotbeats
Joined: April 26, 2002 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 5756
Re: Just Announced March 03, 2011 at 09:32 PM UTC #
kosmo wrote:
Wanders off to remove sweetcell from christmas card list, primarily for not knowing that new york dolls were a key catalyst for a little movement called punk. 


I know how that feels  ;D
chaz
Joined: December 09, 2002 at 06:01 AM UTC
Posts: 5111
Re: Just Announced March 03, 2011 at 09:37 PM UTC #
I don't discount their place in the rock n roll pantheon, but the dolls were never my cuppa tea.
Mobius
Joined: March 28, 2002 at 06:01 AM UTC
Posts: 1371
Re: Just Announced March 03, 2011 at 11:11 PM UTC #
I didn't think id like the new york dolls much when I thought they were david johanson's band . . .when I heard them as johnny thunders band, with jerry nolan by his side, I became a big fan. 
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